I looked at the links in the source and they’re Windows popups, not Chrome injections. Shitty reporting from the verge.
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Submitted 8 months ago by ForgottenFlux@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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deranger@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
FiskFisk33@startrek.website 8 months ago
almost just as scummy though
deranger@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I don’t disagree but shit, can we get some accurate reporting? No need to lie about how shitty Microsoft can be.
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 months ago
The headline says "stuffing". This archive 15 minutes before this post was made also says "stuffing". Stop blaming The Verge for everything, they've moved on from that PC fiasco long ago.
deranger@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Still incorrect, I believe. The pop ups are from Windows. They’re not doing anything to Chrome. Maybe that’s a pedantic technicality but it matters to me, and probably in a legal sense as well.
Microsoft has plenty of shitty practices to report on, including the browser pop ups in windows. There’s no need to lie for clicks. I dunno what the commotion about The Verge is you’re referring to, I’m just commenting on the headline.
warm@kbin.earth 8 months ago
You expected better from the verge?
NoRodent@lemmy.world 8 months ago
*Laughs in Firefox*
UnityDevice@startrek.website 8 months ago
They’re doing this at the OS level, so Firefox can’t protect you from that, the issue is with Windows. They could do the same to Firefox, they just don’t bother.
aPirate@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Well I’m glad I switched to Linux, its only going to get worse.
herpaderp@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Like, Christ — this is the kinda shit Microsoft has to do when they are the majority market share of desktop computing?
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I hope more users will do the same
Jocker@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Microsoft convinced me to switch… to Linux
CaptKoala@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Nearing 6mo since I booted into my windows drive (been a daily user since 98)
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Easy Solution: Linux, Firefox/LibreWolf, DuckDuckGo
Fuck Microsoft!
joe_jowhat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Duckduckgo once allowed trackers from Microsoft
Source: www.reuters.com/article/idUSL1N3792HE
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 8 months ago
- This only applies to the mobile app
- They stopped doing this in 2022
- LibreWolf comes with uBlock Origin preinstalled, which blocks all sorts of ads, trackers and other malicious JavaScript
Squizzy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ddg has content bubbles and tracking that you can stop.
Turn off location and you will still get results relevant to your area filling the page.
qx128@lemmy.world 8 months ago
laughs in Linux desktop
Why do people continue to put up with this? I don’t get any ads or bloatware like “Paint 3D” or “X Box” on Linux Mint. And Linux desktops are so easy to use now! Blows my mind that people tolerate these antics from Microsoft.
magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 months ago
Because Linux has a terrible reputation and has no PR or advertising. People think Linux is overly complicated, has WAY too many distributions to choose from, and there’s absolutely tech support besides what you can find geeks arguing about on a forum.
elshandra@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Community support is a thing, it’s not the lack of support that’s to blame here - have you ever used Microsoft support? Linux support is much more accessible even.
A lot of the blame here, is Microsoft’s clever marketing campaign providing windows to educational institutions - with support - for far below cost, in the early days when pc adoption was on the rise.
Distribution saturation is a barrier to entry and focused support, and it is sometimes more complicated to install and repair. Sometimes it’s easier to repair, because windows is too busy trying to hide its internals from you.
It’s usually easier to support a remote IT-illiterate person using Linux, by comparison to windows, today.
FlihpFlorp@lemm.ee 8 months ago
People think Linux is overly complicated, has WAY too many distributions to choose from, and there’s absolutely no tech support besides what you can find geeks arguing about on a forum.
As someone who has always used windows since troubleshooting doesn’t sound like a good time for me, you have perfectly hit the nail on the head
It’s the “I’m in this photo and I don’t like it” meme
magnetosphere@fedia.io 8 months ago
Because Linux has a terrible reputation and has no PR or advertising. People think Linux is overly complicated, has WAY too many distributions to choose from, and there’s absolutely tech support besides what you can find geeks arguing about on a forum.
Defaced@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Only reason I still have windows is for Geforce now. Unfortunately the web browser version doesn’t support 1440p 120fps and it’s stuck using h.264 on Linux with AMD. The good thing is that once it’s setup I don’t really need to interact with Windows much since I literally open GFN and discord and that’s pretty much it.
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
These latest prompts
look like malwareAre malware.
The constant stream of this horseshit is why I abandoned Windows nonsense again.
joe_cool@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
If I continue to break the law with my car they will take it away.
MS should be forced to sell Bing+Edge as a separate entity.
Wes_Dev@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Legitimately the only reason I still have a Windows 10 ISO and key sitting on my long term storage drive is because I fear that I may have to install it to use VR whenever I get a new kit.
Please Valve. Pretty please…
Actually, didn’t Facebook buy the lens company Valve was donating to and working with to develop their new VR lens tech? I forgot about that. Another reason to hate Facebook. (I refuse to call it
TheRedSpade@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Before my PC died, my Index was working under Arch FWIW. Can’t speak for other hardware though
conciselyverbose@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I still think it’s wild that they just stole the name and bullied their way into keeping it and nothing bad happened.
Zink@pawb.social 8 months ago
Good, let these two horrible browsers fill eachother with bloat until they both fall out.
flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Nothing turns me off of a product or service like the maker begging and trying to trick me into using their wares. Once they start doing that I will usually end up using technically inferior things to avoid them a lot of the time.
callmepk@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“wE VAlue prOviDING oUR CuStomERs With CHOice, So THerE IS An OPtIoN to DisMiss tHE NOTiFiCATiON” - Microsoft responding to Windows Latest regarding this
jkrtn@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I don’t understand why anyone uses Windows.
TwinTusks@bitforged.space 8 months ago
Work, proprietary software runs shit on linux.
RatBin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Because it’s the most used system in the world and most programs run on Windows? Why wouldn’t the average user use it when it comes with the machine and it’s rather easy to set up.
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
“Forgive them, for they know not what they do.” 😉
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Because some people didn’t want to screw around with bash commands that look like Cthulhu incantations, and they can’t afford a Mac.
KISSmyOS@feddit.de 8 months ago
“We value providing our customers with choice, so there is an option to dismiss the notification.”
Thank you daddy Microsoft for still letting me click “no” on your invasive popup ad with a dark pattern to make me change my system settings.
joe_cool@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I wonder what would happen if Chrome asked the user to replace Onedrive with Google Drive on startup.
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 months ago
First of all fuck Bing and Microsoft. That’s it, comment complete.
weeeeum@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Exactly I’m a tech guy and I don’t give a fuck how many other tech guys say “bing is really good now”, I’m never fucking using it.
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Bing is not good now.
I jump search engines regularly trying to find my happy place, and though I never use Bing directly, I do use DDG (which in turn uses Bing), and I’d say about 50% of the time on DDG I have to !bang swap to other platforms because the results just aren’t helpful.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Which hole do I fuck this corporation in?
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s the spirit!
helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 8 months ago
malware like popup ads
What the difference between a virus and window? A virus is well maintained by its creator.
FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Good, let them fight each other to the death. In the meantime, we need to make sure we’re all on the same page for reviving anti-monopoly laws in the USA.
Resol@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Which means us Firefox users can have some popcorn 🍿
That is until they reach us. I hope they don’t.
EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 8 months ago
bloomberg.com/…/firefox-maker-mozilla-is-cutting-…
Someone from Airbnb and Ebay is running the show now. There is gonna be an enshitification speedrun on firefox coming.
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Years ago I would have been pissed. But Google has gotten so bad that I don’t have a problem with MS annoying people to get off of Google.
Wiz@midwest.social 8 months ago
Strangely, I have not seen this on Firefox with Unlock Origin.
0x2d@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
they don’t do it on firefox
Wiz@midwest.social 8 months ago
That’s the point, my friend!
themurphy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Haven’t seen this in the EU. Anyone knows if this is prevented here?
T156@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It might be blocked by the DMA, or at least, make Microsoft hesitate about it, since they’re meant to treat all browsers equally, which would also mean not advertising their browser in another browser.
Naich@lemmings.world 8 months ago
I’ve seen it in the UK. Another Brexit bonus.
Dehydrated@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But technically it would be legal, since the DMA came after Brexit
Suavevillain@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Microsoft continues to make me thankful for switching to Linux. It is refreshing to be able to control your computer experience.
DingoBilly@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Use Windows on the daily and still have never seen these at all, on multiple computers as well.
Generally I’d agree it’s shitty behaviour though.
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If Apple injected Safari ads into Chrome on macOS…
AProfessional@lemmy.world 8 months ago
They would block Chrome entirely if they could get away with it. macOS is so small compared to iOS which already did, so not worth the backlash.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
the only thing Bing is good for is for finding porn.
MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Not so much anymore. Bing and google are pretty shit nowadays (for most any searches). I’ve been getting more accurate search results with duckduckgo, but I’m still looking for a search engine with better results.
PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 8 months ago
duckduckgo just uses bing on the backend doesnt it?
31337@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Kagi is pretty good, but expensive. I like that listicles are put in their own small section so you can ignore them. You can boost, pin, demote, or block results from certain domains. You can create and quickly switch between domain list presets to search only specific sets of sites. The only thing I don’t like is the exerpts below results don’t bold what you’re looking for like Google does.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I have noticed that recently…meaning a few minutes before I typed this.
Google has sucked for a long time now and now bing isn’t even good for finding porn anymore.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
mullvad leta and brave search are pretty good about being private
Mullvad leta is only accessible by using the mullvad browser extension with mullvad VPN on the same device.
decaria_nova@lemmy.world 8 months ago
cough install Linux
Shouted@programming.dev 8 months ago
I gotta hand it to Apple for taking one for the team and soaking up all of the EU’s anti-trust efforts. Lets other American tech companies do egregious shit like this.
flerp@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Their tactics aside, copilot is very useful. It’s helped me a ton on my education journey. Free and easy access to it on the desktop has been game changing for me.
Adrien_0715@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Laughs in Brave and Librefox
autotldr@lemmings.world [bot] 8 months ago
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The software giant first introduced malware-like pop-up ads last year with a prompt that appeared over the top of other apps and windows.
“This is a one-time notification giving people the choice to set Bing as their default search engine on Chrome,” says Caitlin Roulston, director of communications, in a statement to The Verge.
There are a variety of ways that Microsoft attempts to prompt Windows users into switching to Bing and Edge, making it difficult to avoid them through tweaking settings.
I’ve been growing increasingly frustrated with Microsoft’s attempts to aggressively push pop-up ads on Chrome users in recent years.
Earlier this year, Microsoft even had to fix an issue where its Edge browser was automatically importing browsing data and tabs from Chrome without consent.
I’m still hoping Microsoft will eventually give up with these annoying pop-ups and respect Windows users’ choice to pick whichever search engine and browser they wish to use.
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anlumo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Isn’t that a textbook antitrust violation?
ThePantser@lemmy.world 8 months ago
USA companies don’t give a shit about antitrust anymore. Look at Amazon and Apple, the only places they get bit for their behavior are the European countries.
AProfessional@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Even then Apple has been barely bothered. The CMA is the first big test, Apple has clearly not complied in spirit, lets see if that’s allowed and nothing changes.
thantik@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yes but Microsoft learned once you start lining the pockets of the right people, nothing happens to you!
UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The richest companies can probably afford the richest lobbyists
TheFeatureCreature@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah, but when they get fined 0.004% of their revenue with each violation then it’s hardly even worth worrying about. Legal penalties are basically minor business expenses to these companies - like buying toilet paper for the office bathrooms.
woelkchen@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Apparently not. Google is nagging Edge users who visit Google services since years to switch to their “secure web browser with frequent updates” (implying that Edge doesn’t get any, despite being the same Chromium thing as Chrome). (Firefox is exempt because FF defaults to Google Search)
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 months ago
BWAHAHAhahahahaaaaaa! Aiiigh! Oh! Oh man. snif. Haha ha. Ahhhhhh fuck.
Yes. But micro$oft was declared a monopoly 20+ years ago and . . gestures to everything
what, you want reform? It didn’t have the votes.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Microsoft and the government:
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Pohl@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Trust is when two or more companies secretly collude against the interest of customers. That is what you would find in a textbook anyway. This is more an abuse of monopoly.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Except it’s Google with the monopoly now.