For god sakes don’t use Brave. Brave has been caught doing shady shit in the past, and the CEO is a piece of shit on top of that.
Use Firefox with privacy addons.
The DMA already having an impact. Brave Browser installs surge after introduction of browser choice splash screen on iOS.
Submitted 8 months ago by FatCat@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Don’t worry, Firefox downloads in the EU have also skyrocketed.
ahriboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Vivaldi and Firefox are better choices.
hannes3120@feddit.de 8 months ago
Vivaldi is the best!
Currently trying out Floorp as a Firefox fork for the possibility that Google’s disabling of adblockers in the manifest will make it impossible to use chromium browsers which is kind of good, too
But Vivaldi rules as long as chromium is an option!
markon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There is one issues though… Firefox is extremely slow and clunky. I hate to say it, but on mobile it is hard to use all the time for me. On desktop I’m Firefox 95% of the time but some sites don’t work very well with the much slower JavaScript engine. This isn’t to defend Brave or any chromium browser but we gotta get Firefox up to speed.
the16bitgamer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This is on iOS. There is no Firefox (geko) or Chromium, there is only skins of Safari so your point is moot. For now.
rambaroo@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
Firefox and chromium both outperform Safari in performance tests. It’s Safari that’s the third rate browser. No one would use that shit if it wasn’t forced on them.
There’s a reason Apple stopped making it for other platforms. Safari can’t compete without Apple kneecapping the competition.
RedSeries@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I feel like Firefox has made some really great strides on the performance front. Especially considering how bloated chrome has gotten as a comparison. But… Yeah that’s valid. I love Firefox like 99% of the time but sometimes I’m almost forced to swap to Chrome to get a site to work correctly or reliably.
dai@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Firefox is fine on mobile in my eyes.
At least the Android version, even on my 5 year old Exynos phone it does what I need / want from a browser. Allows (some) extensions, lets me zoom wherever I want to on any page, has a reader mode and is snappy enough on old hardware.
Chrome tries to be / do far too much for me, just fuck off and let me browse the web. I do like the dynamic colours that Chrome on mobile uses on different webpages, is hot.
However Chrome gives me dirty Microsoft vibes, and it’s pretty hard to shake that stank.
If your on iOS welcome to the walled garden. Hope you live in the EU.
markon@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I just have a shitty phone. Lol don’t buy a Pixel 6. (Unless you pick it up really cheap for temporary use)
turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Wasn’t the Brave CEO formerly the Mozilla CEO, back when Mozilla was doing a good job?
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Yes, until he was ousted for being trash as a person.
cryptix@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
But in iOS , addons (ublock origin) are not available at least outside EU, so brave is the better choice as it got brave shield
cmbabul@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This isn’t true, Safari has that exact extension
Hobbes@startrek.website 8 months ago
This is too far down.
AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Brave is garbage. It’s a cryptoscam adscam browser based on Chrome. For the love of god, use Firefox (or Vivaldi if you absolutely need chromium)
Clandestine@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
I can’t say I disagree, I’ve long abandoned it on my PC.
But Brave has superb AdBlocking capabilities compared to every other browser for iPhone, so I’m still using it on my phone.
Samueru@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But Brave has superb AdBlocking capabilities compared to every other browser for iPhone
It is the same on android, it even lets me watch youtube vids without ads and in the background.
Goodtoknow@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Brave on iOS is one of the more legitimate ways of getting an ad blocker
aclarkc@midwest.social 8 months ago
Check out Orion! Firefox and Chrime add on support.
Syrc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been using Safari + AdGuard for a while and I don’t remember seeing any ad.
elwy@fedit.io 8 months ago
At least on android Firefox has Google tracking built into the app among much other tracking/ads. If you don’t like Brave you may want to consider a Firefox fork. On IOS Brave is the only big browser with competent adblock afaik until/unless Firefox gets extensions going.
Syrc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
On IOS Brave is the only big browser with competent adblock afaik until/unless Firefox gets extensions going.
Safari + AdGuard gave me no issues so far.
fushuan@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I’m not sure if fennec has it, it’s the core Firefox android build that is not published to the store.
meliaesc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Unfortunately brave has the best desktop layout when using Samsung DeX.
Hermokuolio@lemmy.world 8 months ago
whats wrong with chromium?
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It allows Google to continue controlling the Internet.
13@kbin.run 8 months ago
@AMDIsOurLord @FatCat
Brave may have its flaws but at least it has an offline Dino game, what does Firefox have?ultra@feddit.ro 8 months ago
an offline breakout game
OozingPositron@feddit.cl 8 months ago
/>Cryptoscam
I turned it off
/>Adscam
I turned them off
/>Based on chrome
Chromium
/>use Firefox
AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Cope and Seethe
Fridgeratr@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“no”
Links article about one of the best takes ever made by an online company
Wild
hedgehog@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
Are you saying you don’t like Firefox because they don’t like propaganda?
Samueru@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Brave is great, has configurable keybinds, nice default adblock block list, vertical tabs, syncing sessions without email, etc.
The crypto ads just get disabled on the new tab page, you don’t even have to go to the settings lol. And vivaldi is partially closed source btw.
tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
There are crypto ads involved in the product though? Fuck that, even if it was default off
BentiGorlich@gehirneimer.de 8 months ago
Brave would definitely not be my choice 😂
state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
That is fine, as long as people have a choice.
just_change_it@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean sure I guess… but brave as a browser is atrocious. I don’t trust their bullshit at all.
After all who doesn’t want a crypto wallet in their browser? that’s the safest place for it right?
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I guess if you have no experience with it then that’s a perfect response. Meanwhile I’ve got $72 worth of BAT in mine and if it vanished I’d be perfectly fine losing money I never actually owned. I donate to DDG and Wikipedia each month with mine. That’s money they didn’t have so they are fine with that.
I used to have a lot less but this crypto spike has increased it by a lot so my holdings are exceeding my donations. Might need to give away more.
LodeMike@lemmy.today 8 months ago
Reminder that this graph does not start at zero. Still a ~40% increase.
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 months ago
take home message from this graph: if we shift the graph down by ~7K, you can see that we have roughly increased our user base by a factor of 100!
fne8w2ah@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Still wouldn’t touch Brave Browser due to their past crypto shenanigans.
porkchop@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Please forgive my ignorance. Can’t you shut that shit off? Does shenanigans still apply?
Voyajer@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve been using Firefox on my android phones for years though, I don’t remember it ever being more involved then setting it as default.
nikscha@feddit.de 8 months ago
I hate how they cut off the graph…
banghida@lemm.ee 8 months ago
They are probably just trying to pump their token with these posts.
WolfLink@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Misleading graph trying to make a 150% increase look like a 1000% increase.
Pantherina@feddit.de 8 months ago
That graph is manipulated as fuck. When starting at 0, it wouldnt look that crazy
echodot@feddit.uk 8 months ago
I’m so glad they included a key otherwise I wouldn’t know what the green line represented.
kyub@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
That doesn’t surprise me, and yes it was always because of anti-competitive practices, so I’m all for more neutrality, I’ll just add 2 shower thoughts:
- Seeing that Brave is at the top of the browser list, I wonder how many selected Brave just because it’s at the top of the list.
- It’s nice to have such a thing for browsers, but it would have to be expanded to other apps as well, e.g. mail client. Oh well, maybe in another 10 years or so.
___@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I used to use brave before they were soured. Ther BAT token disappearing from my account was another nail in the coffin.
poopkins@lemmy.world 8 months ago
3,000 people clicked a button out of curiosity or by mistake. If this is statistically relevant for their install base, there really is nobody using Brave. I have as many users randomly come and go into my game on a daily basis.
turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I don’t use Brave due to lack of uBlock Origin support. Otherwise it seems like a decent browser.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I dont know wtf this is about; I have NEVER had a problem switching default browsers in ANY environment.
Halcyon@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Brave is evil.
d7eeem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
But still isn’t it a safari reskin!!
farsinuce@feddit.dk 8 months ago
account_93@lemm.ee 8 months ago
There is zero reason to switch browsers on iOS, They all run the same engine. Safari also has extensions (which I believe 3rd party browsers can’t use).
lanolinoil@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Hurry USA! Better find some smallish company to sue for anti trust instead of working on any real issues like this
therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Competition is healthy for a market, this is proof that people aren’t happy with the default browser and it’ll hopefully spur apple into improving their browser and in turn causing brave to improve even more
moon@lemmy.cafe 8 months ago
Honestly I’d expect a much bigger jump
foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
I don’t think this is a good thing, brave is good out of the box but do not provide good browsing experience
excitingburp@lemmy.world 8 months ago
And once again, I am seriously questioning Apple’s privacy claims. Why else would Apple build such a moat around Safari?
PoliticallyIncorrect@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Using Brave since years ago and it goes pretty smooth, good for them but first they should get out of Apple brand tbh.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The line starts shooting up before March 6th though…
OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yeah but Brave? Why not Firefox or Vivaldi.
Norgur@fedia.io 8 months ago
Forgive them. They aren't used to choosing their browser yet.
akilou@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
They’re Apple users. They aren’t used to making any decisions when it comes to how their phones work
OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ok you get a free pass, make sure it doesn’t happen again :)
SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Well the Brave Twitter account is likely a bit biased toward the Brave browser. 🙂
I’m sure the others were impacted too.
refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
Vivaldi is a proprietary rebranding of Chromium. Can’t say I’d recommend it over Firefox.
OrangeCorvus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
True but if you use Vivaldi and then you try to go back to Firefox, it’s like going back in the early 2000s. I always say this, Firefox should have been like Vivaldi. Super customizable and packed with features. Instead you have to rely on extensions and thus put your trust in the creator of said extension that they will not sell it. Heck even with extensions, trying to mimic the new tab page from Vivaldi is a masterclass in patience.
hOrni@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Vivaldi is my go to browser. Brave does a better job with blocking ads. I’m switching to Brave whenever I need to stream something on a site loaded with ads, or when YouTube manages to detect my Adblock for a few days.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Not like uBlock Origin is a thing?
Can it really get better than that and consent-o-matic?
AeroLemming@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I don’t like that you can’t use the Dark Reader extension on mobile in Vivaldi. I like all of my websites to be dark.
topinambour_rex@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Firefox +50% in Germany, +30% in France
turkishdelight@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Still better than Edge or Chrome
turkalino@lemmy.yachts 8 months ago
Because it blocks ads out of the box. I know its new tab screen causes a lot of y’all’s buttholes to clench because it mentions cryptocurrency, but there are harder things to ignore
strawberry@kbin.run 8 months ago
as someone said, its randomised, and I'm sure that other browsers also saw more downloads
Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 months ago
Because it's listed as the first item on the browser choice screen for some reason, probably
FatCat@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The list is randomized, I’ve seen several screenshots with different order.
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TheMinions@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean it’s probably just alphabetical, but I wouldn’t know for sure.
latetolemmy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Cause Firefox is trash and Mozilla a shell of their former selves?
RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Vivaldi is extremely slow on IOS and 2gb+ big. Firefox has no extensions so no Adblock. Generally there are few privacy friendly/Foss browsers on IOS.
progettarsi@feddit.it 8 months ago
firefox sucks for most people and vivaldi it’s too complicated to configure + it looks like pure bloat
max@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Why does it suck though? Works fine for me. Granted, I’m a software engineer, but even looking through my “end user glasses”, I don’t see anything wrong with it.
SeaJ@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I have very few issues with Firefox. I fine across a site that does not render properly maybe once every other month. I did have some resource issues with it in Windows 10 with it using too much RAM (regularly using 3-4GB) but that has been fixed since I switch to Linux.
nooneshere@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Vivaldi is proprietary bullcrap. I don’t know why people keep sucking their dick