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What happens when two people with hyphenated last names get married? Do they hyphenate all four names and in what order?
Submitted 8 months ago by an_onanist@lemmy.world to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
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j4k3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Bluetreefrog@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I believe this is a thing in Quebec.
from …sbs.com.au/…/canadian-culture-naming
In Quebec, the Civil Code requires parents to assign their child only one surname (either a single or compound surname) derived from their respective surnames. Compound surnames may not have more than two parts, with or without hyphens. Thus, a couple named Joseph BOUCHARD-TREMBLAY and Marie DION-ROY could give their children the surnames:
- BOUCHARD
- TREMBLAY
- DION
- ROY
- BOUCHARD-TREMBLAY
- DION-ROY
- BOUCHARD-DION
- BOUCHARD-ROY, and so on.
In Quebec, the law provides that spouses retain their respective birth names when they are married.
redcalcium@lemmy.institute 8 months ago
I didn’t know Canada has law governing names. Where I live it’s free for all. A kid even named “Karantina Covidah” by their parents for fuck sake.
wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The above is for Quebec only, which has a completely different civil law system (a mix of common law and Napoleonic civil code), and does not apply to the rest of Canada.
folkrav@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
That should be child abuse lol
kakes@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
From what I can tell, Quebec has laws for just about everything.
Dagwood222@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I can’t believe that there isn’t a gripping political thriller about the making of this law.
RGB3x3@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“Mr Bouchard-Roy-Tremblay-Barbier-Allard-Dupont and Ms Moreau-Dubois-Laurent-Aubert-Beaumont have flagrantly shown disrespect for French customs by desiring to call themselves Mr and Mrs Bouchard-Moreau-Roy-Dubois-Tremblay-Laurent-Barbier-Aubert-Allard-Beaumont-Dupont and MUST be forced to truncate this surname into no more than two parts with or without a single dash. They are a disgrace to the national culture.”
“How DARE you call us disgraces. We, the Bouchard-Moreau-Roy-Dubois-Tremblay-Laurent-Fournier-Aubert-Allard-Beaumont-Duponts have a long, proud history of serving our country and its people and will not be treated in such a manner! We demand to be shown respect!”
The judge raises his hand and looks toward the defendant
“Please recite to me your name one more time.”
“Bouchard-Moreau-Roy-Dubois-Tremblay-Laurent-Fournier-Aubert-Allard-Beaufort-Dupont”
“IT IS SETTLED! You do not even know your own name and have wasted the court’s time! You filed your marriage request with the surname Bouchard-Moreau-Roy-Dubois-Tremblay-Laurent-Barbier-Aubert-Allard-Beaumont-Dupont and cannot properly recite it yourself! This is a disgraceful waste of the people’s and the great government of France’s time. You are hereby directed to choose a surname with no more than two parts separated or not by a dash and I will hear no more of this nonsense! Case dismissed!”
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In the Hispanic tradition it would be the Paternal name and then the Maternal name using the Paternal line, which would be the first name.
So Male 1-2 and Female 3-4 becomes Baby 1-3.
Cryophilia@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Some of the Mexicans I know just kept adding middle names.
You end up with something like Manuèl José Alvarez Ibarra Reyes Gutierrez
ericjmorey@piefed.social 8 months ago
Simón José Antonio de la Santísima Trinidad Bolívar Palacios Ponte y Blanco[c] (24 July 1783 – 17 December 1830) was a Venezuelan military and political leader who led what are currently the countries of Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador, Peru, Panama, and Bolivia to independence from the Spanish Empire. He is known colloquially as El Libertador, or the Liberator of America.
z00s@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Banana game music intensifies
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Baby 1-4?
I thought maternal name always come seconds and gets passed down by the mom.
So the dad has “dad1-mom1” and the mom has “dad2-mom2”.
And the kid would be “dad1-mom2”. Not “dad1-dad2”
But I honestly don’t know
Death_Equity@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That may be the case in some cultures, but the Hispanic tradition only carries the Paternal line.
dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Bro, you can’t have two dads (/s)
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I vote that we do it this way going forward
Blackmist@feddit.uk 8 months ago
They keep going like a memory game.
explodicle@local106.com 8 months ago
Believe it or not, sexism!
They usually place the man’s name first and then only pass on those names.
We just made up portmanteau names for our kids, based on what sounded good. Over time, this should improve the overall coolness of last names.
taiyang@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So if you portmanteau four hyphenated names you’d have quite an awesome mouthful.
Example based on some names I’ve encountered…
Garcia + Roothopper + Nishigawa + Smith = Garhopgawaith? Nishciasmithopper? Smootgawacia?
phcorcoran@lemmy.world 8 months ago
In Canada, they typically pick one or two last names out of four for the kid. Some adults decide to go by just one of their last names too
Jedi@bolha.forum 8 months ago
I’m Brazilian and here in Brazil there’s no well defined culture on what to do with family names. Legally, you can come out with a complete new family name at the moment of marriage, with the only rule that both people should have it.
In my case, my parents already had some long names. Dad 1 2 3 and Mom 4 5. Both me, my sister and my mom end up with 4 5 2 3, I believe because pressure from my grandparents.
By the way, having four family names, like I do, is not very common in Brazil. It is more common to have two, both the last names from the parents, e.g. Dad 1 2 and Mom 3 4 would result in Baby 4 2, with one of the parents optionally taking those names too (traditionally the woman).
KISSmyOS@feddit.de 8 months ago
as always – it depends on the jurisdiction.
But in most cases, they will use a new hyphenated last name that consists of both partners’ first last name, with the man’s first last name first.UrPartnerInCrime@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
The names should be combined to make a new last name as your making a new family
pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I read an article about this a few years ago, and the answer is whatever they want. I remember one couple said they just decided they liked the wife’s grandmother’s middle maiden name, so they just picked that. She was confused but flattered.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Yea you cna change your last name to anything when you get married.
macrocephalic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I know a few people who’ve done this. When they got married they decided they didn’t like either last name so just chose a new one. In one case it was the guy’s online handle - which was also a normal last name. In the other case it was a name from their favourite movie.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You talk about it and decide together.
In our case we both kept our last names. Why change her last name when that’s who she’s always been? Really simplifies things as far as paperwork goes. Also - LPT: when you have different last names you can get double the introductory offers on things like internet packages at home. Just sign up under one name, cancel when able, sign up under the other. They don’t know you’re married.
stoicmaverick@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What about the kids?
SeabassDan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Great idea! That’s another couple of accounts you can open up, and maybe even a few credit lines when both the parents have used theirs up.
Kidding obviously, because this place gets pretty rough sometimes.
Good_morning@lemmynsfw.com 8 months ago
I always assumed they would recall the frustrations of growing up with a hyphenated name and not pass that on to another child.
possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
The tradition is to go with the mans last name.
slurpeesoforion@startrek.website 8 months ago
His first last name or his second last name?
sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
I’ve always thought the system of last names should be hyphenated. Your paternal last name first, maternal last name second. Women no longer change their names when marrying. Men pass the paternal name down to their kids, women pass down the maternal. That way last names are essentially a record of who your OG matrons and patrons are.
Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
That’s how it is in some cultures. I have my father’s paternal last name and my mother’s maternal last name.
Donebrach@lemmy.world 8 months ago
pretty sure the world ends.
EpicFailGuy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Latino person here with two last names.
I chose to keep both of mine, but when I married I only kept the first.
We also commonly only use the first in spite of having both in our ID
TheControlled@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Haha have you ever seen an Indian person, especially a man’s ID? Not exaggerating, it’s around 5-7 last names of something. Feel free to correct me but as a bartender, it could be both funny and irritating when verifying their ID.
not_woody_shaw@lemmy.world 8 months ago
We should go back to using profession as last name. Then everybody would be named Shitposter.
Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wait…you guys get paid?
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Only at the competitive level. Git gud and you’ll get sponsored.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Guppy Q Keyboardpounder
I accept your terms.
rockerface@lemm.ee 8 months ago
We’re all a big friendly family here. Just without the creepy corporate talk
macrocephalic@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Macrocephalic Seatweight. I guess it could work.