Instagram finds that AI Mr beast scams do not go against community guidelines.

Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Zaderade@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

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These scammers using Mr Beasts popularity, generosity, and (mostly) deep fake AI to scam people into downloading malware, somehow do not go against Instagrams community guidelines.

After trying to submit a request to review these denied claims, it appears I have been shadow banned in some way or another as only an error message pops up.

Instagram is allowing these to run on their platform. Intentional or not, this is ridiculous and Instagram should be held accountable for allowing malicious websites to advertise their scam on their platform.

For a platform of this scale, this is completely unacceptable. They are blatant and I have no idea how Instagrams report bots/staff are missing these.

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Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve reported Nazis, violent threats, and literal child pornography on Instagram that then told me it didn’t go against their guidelines.

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- henfredemars@infosec.pub ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I read between the lines: this is the content they support, so it’s not a platform for me.
  
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  - gaael@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t think you understand how hard and resource-intensive it is to fight against the nipple crowd. I for one am grateful that they chose to do something about the real issues ! Yes, a world with free nazis is kind of a bother, but most of us would survive. Can you imagine the horror of a world with free nipples ? We would all be doomed, that’s for sure. /big s
    
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- TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But god forbid if you say a no-no word like ‘suicide’.
  
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- cosmicrookie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Same… “this huge anal horse dildo does not break our marketplace guidelines”
  
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- MoonRaven@feddit.nl ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But if you make a clear joke in a joke group, you get flagged and can’t get it reviewed.
  
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- JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Actual child porn? How do you mean?
  
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  - Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    As in child sexual abuse material. It’s pretty rampant on Instagram where they like to ‘hide’ under certain tags.
    
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  - HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Porn with actual children.
    
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- quindraco@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Did you report the CP to the police?
  
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  - Daxtron2@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    No usually I report it to NCMEC who has better resources to deal with it. Cops very rarely care or are able to do anything.
    
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JCreazy@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
If you stop using Instagram, then you won’t have to worry about it.

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- dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  That doesn’t mean the issue disappears.
  
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  - emptiestplace@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    What issue?
    
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  - null@slrpnk.net ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Of course it doesn’t. Still good advice regardless.
    
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  - Coasting0942@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    But it does mean that an unpaid moderator isn’t attempting to moderate their platform. Let them see what happens when they take the extwitter approach of letting the computers handle everything.
    
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DarkMessiah@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Sounds like a good time to make Mr Beast aware of these, he has a lot of disposable income to burn on a lawsuit or three.

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- rockSlayer@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Next video:
  
  I spent $500 MILLION to destroy a company
  
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  - KoboldCoterie@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    If 500m could take down Meta, I bet we could crowding that shit. Someone set up a GoFundMe!
    
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- andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  These scam ads have been an issue for at least a year. I’m pretty sure they’re automated and there’s very little that can be done to trace them to their original sources. I’m sure if Mr. Beast did threaten to sue Meta, then they would just start filtering “beast” from ads.
  
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  - porksoda@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    I’m pretty sure they’re automated and there’s very little that can be done to trace them to their original sources.
    
    Start by holding the ad account holder liable. When I worked in digital marketing and ran ad accounts, I had to upload my driver’s license.
    
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- TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Honestly protecting vulnerable people from these scams is probably more generous than the usual philanthropy he does
  
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Icalasari@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So what they are saying is they are willing to take liability and thus be open to being sued over this as they know of the scams but say they do not break community guidelines

Got it

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- halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Seems like Mr Beast might have a claim for a defamation suit since they’re actively allowing what amounts to identity theft and fraud on their platform.
  
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  - somethingsnappy@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, only the rich would benefit. Again.
    
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neurogenesis@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Reviewed by an AI. Nice.

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- EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  The AI have investigated themselves and have found no wrongdoing
  
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  - DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It’s going to be great when we find out all the Bitcoin whales were just the AI gathering resources for the revolution.
    
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Buddahriffic@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Companies serving ads should have at least partial liability for them. If they can’t afford to look into them all, then maybe they are too big or their business model just isn’t as viable as they pretend it is.

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- Patches@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  They are too big. There is no maybe about it.
  
  You best start believing in late stage capitalism, you’re in one.
  
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  - Snowpix@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    We’re already at the point where companies are cannibalizing themselves to grow more, like cancer. They’re going to destroy themselves trying to endlessly grow. And you know what? Thank FUCK for that.
    
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- Liz@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I absolutely agree. If you’re serving up the ad, you have to take responsibility for the contents.
  
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peereboominc@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Same with YouTube ads. Lots of scam’s and reporting it always ends in my report getting denied…

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- JigglypuffSeenFromAbove@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Google also doesn’t care. I kept seeing the same scammy ads and sensationalist articles on my news feed, over and over, even after reporting them several times.
  
  The only solution was to blacklist those sources so they don’t show up on my feed. I feel bad for other people who might get scammed though.
  
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- TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I had to uninstall the YouTube app and start using vinegar via safari on iOS because I got tired of being insulted by deepfakes who called me stupid for not falling for their fake stimulus scam.
  
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- HiddenLayer5@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I tried to report a Mr. Beast scam givaway ad I saw on the YouTube homepage. It told me to sign in. I promptly closed the tab right then.
  
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Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
On Twitter I’ve reported:

Pictures of dead babies/toddlers

Pictures of murdered people

Death threats towards public figures

Illegal videos of terrorist acts

Ads for illegal weapons (tasers)

So so much crypto spam

Things found by Twitter to go against their community standards? 0
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- LazaroFilm@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Why are you on X Twitter to begin with‽
  
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  - DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Exactly. Get the fuck off the Nazi platform
    
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  - stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    do they even have community standards anymore?
    
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- XTornado@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  He fired more than 80% of the original workers. There is nobody to check the reports.
  
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- nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’ve been suspended for no reason more than once
  
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  - vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    “for no reason”?
    
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  - tuhriel@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Yeah, they are more leanient with their customers than with their products…
    
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  - Klear@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    The reason is that you still have an account sepite all the reason why you shouldn’t any more.
    
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- vox@sopuli.xyz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  idk i got a couple of accounts banned by reporting, twitter is pretty good at it’s job (or used to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
  
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  - Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    This has all been in the last year…
    
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EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Like many, I’ve reported lots of stuff to basically every social media outlet, and nothing has been done. Most surprising, a woman I know was getting harassed from people setting up fake accounts of her. Meta did nothing, so she went to the police…who also did nothing. Her MP eventually got involved, and after three months the accounts were removed, but the damage had gone on for about two years at that point.

As someone that works in tech, it’s obvious why this is such a hard problem, because it requires actual people to review the content, to get context, and to resolve in a timely and efficient manner. It’s not a scalable solution on a platform with millions of posts a day, because it takes thousands (if not more) of people to triage, action, and build on this. That costs a ton of money, and tech companies have been trying (and failing) to scale this problem for decades. I maintain that if someone is able to reliably solve this problem (where users are happy), they’ll make billions.

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- jjjalljs@ttrpg.network ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I’m going to argue that if they can’t scale to millions of users safely they shouldn’t.
  
  If they were selling food at huge scales but “couldn’t afford to have quality checks on all of what they ship out”, most people probably wouldn’t be like “yeah that’s fine. I mean sometimes you get a whole rat in your captain crunch but they have to make a profit”
  
  Also I’m pretty sure a billionaire could afford to pay a whole army of moderators.
  
  On the other hand, as someone else said, they kind of go to bat for awful people more often than not. I don’t really want to see that behavior scaled up.
  
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  - EnderMB@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    You’re probably right, but as a thought exercise, imagine how many people you would need to hire across multiple regions, and what sort of salary these people deserve to have, given the responsibility. That’s why these companies don’t want to pay for it, and anyone that has worked this kind of data entry work will know that it can be brutal.
    
    IMO, governments should enforce it, but that requires a combined effort across multiple governments.
    
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- Rodeo@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  That costs a ton of money
  
  As if they don’t have it?
  
  Fuckin please. I’m so sick of hearing that something to “too expensive” for a multi billion dollar, multinational corporation.
  
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- Patches@sh.itjust.works ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  But it is scalable. Do you have any idea how much fuckin money these social media sites make? They absolutely can afford it. We just don’t force them too.
  
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- Facebones@reddthat.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I get a TOS flag anytime I mention that using one’s faith to justify bigotry and violence though, so we know there’s at least one group fb goes to bat for - Christofascists.
  
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bonnetbee@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

[…] Mr Beasts popularity, generosity […]

Mr. Beast feels so unlikable to me, I really can’t understand his popularity. But that’s beside the point, sorry. Fuck instagram!

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- echodot@feddit.uk ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  My understanding is he gives a lot of his money away to various causes so I suppose that’s why people like him.
  
  But of course equally he is part of that annoying YouTuber trend of bouncing around the screen being very loud and thinking that that’s a substitute for personality.
  
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  - bonnetbee@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    It is an interesting business model. Good for the people he spends money on, but no one should have that much money to begin with. And I am sure he takes his cut.
    
    But without having watched many videos of him (about 2), his appearance just screams devious weasel to me.
    
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Rooter@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I reported a pic of a nazi flag with Hitler in front of it, with the caption: Hitler did nothing wrong, f**k jews.

Doesn’t go against community standards.

I made a video about the struggles of children who are sexual abused, with a link to donate to a charity that helps children. Instant shadowban and no longer monetized.

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- HawlSera@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I had something like that happen.
  
  I report death threats against me from transphobic bigots, that cited me being trans as why they wanted to kill me. Reported it as hate speech and a threat of violence. “We’re sorry, this does not violate community guidelines.”
  
  Later I made a self-deprecating joke about being white.
  
  Three month ban for “Racism and Bigotry”
  
  Facebook is a fucking joke, and not a funny one either.
  
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  - Jumpinship@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    your soumd so unique. lel screw those white cis men right
    
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Cyberflunk@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
pixelfed.org

Fuck Meta

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- DarkThoughts@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Their NSFW filter sucks. You have to go to each individual post and then click to unblur it.
  
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  - porksoda@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Not every platform has to accommodate porn and/or nude art.
    
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- Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Godspeed to Pixelfed, but Instagram absolutely killed photo sharing platforms for me. I really want nothing to do with them anymore.
  
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Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world [bot] ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Not that this helps anyone, but I gave up Instagram the day Facebook bought it. I don’t regret it and my mental health is better for it. Using Instagram made me depressed as hell.

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- Zaderade@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  I deleted Facebook a couple years ago. Instagram is my guilty pleasure for car reels and god damn dancing toothless. It seems like the end of my ig use is getting closer
  
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  - Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    Facebook now is basically hard right wing clowns protected from repprts and boomers whinging about problems they made up. There are still holdouts (groups) that aren’t ruined but facebook is trying its best to do so.
    
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stefenauris@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I doubt they’re missing them. They simply don’t care and will continue to not care until something happens that makes the money generated by the ADs not worth it.

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Nobody@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Enshittification has become the new way of life for tech firms like Meta.

They lay off workers and decrease user safety, because that leads to more ad buys. This year’s record profits need to exceed last year’s record profits, even though a fourth of you are fired. More profit, or else…

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- admin@lemmy.my-box.dev ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  Yeah, no. Instagram was done enahittifying LONG before the term was coined.
  
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andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I report lots of scam ads and leave comments calling them out. I’ve had Meta or YouTube take down maybe one or two of the hundreds I’ve reported. But I’ve had a ton of my comments removed as “hate speech” (stuff like pointing out a NFT collection was using stolen artwork). We are not their customers - advertisers are. The people who made this ad are the people that paid Meta - why would they take it down?

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MargotRobbie@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
It is exactly because Instagram is at the scale that it is that caused moderation to be difficult. Facebook has relied on using bots to moderate for so long due to its scale, and using bots that are specifically designed to detect AI generated contents is really not possible without introducing a ton of false positives, since the Instagram of the 2020s at its core IS celebrity/influencer advertisement, and there is honestly very little that differentiate what constitutes as "content* and “spam” there.

Since influencers will be the first to be automated by machines, I just don’t really see a point in having an Instagram account any longer, the inevitable conclusion of creating a fake reality of your life on Instagram is being replaced by a machine that can fake it more efficiently.

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Showroom7561@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Instagram is owned by Meta… Facebook.

Facebook had no problem helping pedophiles distribute child pornography on their platform, territorists and nazis from organizing events on their platform, or allowing deceptive political ads that swayed the votes of democratic nations.

Why would give any fuck about fake Mr beast ads?

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phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I read these comments about people complaining about AI ads and I suddenly realize how little I’ve had to deal with that shit. All my browsers have 2-3 adblockers since pretty much ad blockers existed, I stopped watching TV like 20 years ago and went full ahoy matey for a while, then paid Netflix and Amazon Prime and with ads coming there I’m back to mateeeeyyy, and though here and there from time to time I do see some small ads on some sites (mostly on mobile mostly though seeing an image on Reddit (now Lemmy) in the rif (now connect) app

I stayed away from places like instagram like the disease that it is, I pretty much don’t Facebook, and I barely ever had to deal with commercials for like the past 20 years of my life.

Most commercials I’d see would be billboards EVERYWHERE in the real world when I lived in Mexico (seriously, Mexican government, please do something about this, it’s beyond bad there) but now here in Canada, it’s mostly pretty quiet and nice.

I guess I’m kind of blessed in comparison with everyone else in here

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zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Why do people use Instagram

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King@lemy.lol ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
You still using Instagram! In 2024

I guess I am the only who thought that everyone has moved on from Instagram.

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TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
There are different standards between the users and the people that give meta money. It’s sad but true, and why I think moderation is a SIGNIFICANT concern when considering federating with threads

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dynamojoe@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
So basically they’re saying it’s the user’s fault for not having a better ad algorithm. That’s amazingly poor thinking.

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anarchyrabbit@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Fuck meta, fuck fb, and YouTube is not far off.

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Alcatorda@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
YouTube also rejected my report for fake Mrbeast giveaway ads :(

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stalfoss@lemm.ee ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I’ve stopped reporting obvious scams / spam on instagram because something like 19 out of 20 reports get ignored or denied

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TheFederatedPipe@kbin.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
@Zaderade The internet is flooded with AI generated ads, it is crazy, I was using my sister's phone for a moment and inside an app an ad pops up, it was a obviously AI generated image of a singer with the lyrics of the song, nothing compared to a scam, but still. Another example is my mother, she was using youtube shorts and her feed was flooded with AI generated videos, the "person", voice, background, everything.

Then they ask why people are using ad blocking and alternative clients to consume content.

P.S: I have installed alternative clients, adblocks and all to their phones, I have told them and teach them how to avoid all of this crap, they don't see to care, they love ads and all this crap. (It's more of an habit thing I would say, but yeah)

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pete_the_cat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Somehow, someone reactivated an old Facebook account of mine, which was dormant for like a decade. I reached out to Facebook support and said that someone was using my old account to post diet ads. Their response? “We see nothing wrong here, so we’re not going to do anything about it.” 🤦‍♂️

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ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
The Review Request Failed is really a cherry on top of this shit-cake lmao it literally describes modern social media in a nutshell to a T.

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moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Pixelfed os fantastic.

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