Submitted 11 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Scientists Have Reported a Breakthrough In Understanding Whale Language::Researchers have identified new elements of whale vocalizations that they propose are analogous to human speech, including vowels and pitch.
Not only did the AI predict elements of whale vocalizations already thought to be meaningful, such as clicks, but it also singled out acoustic properties.
This is an amazing use of machine learning models.
Can’t wait for th to tell us to stop being fuckheads and ruining the planet
“So long and thanks for all the fish”
Imagine if we managed to make a translator for the speech of an animal, knowing what they say and being able to say something back. Literally speaking with animals. That would have been so amazing and revolutionizing.
Honestly? We’d just fuck it all up, and find some way to exploit it.
If they could, the first words they speak to us would likely be akin to “Fuck you!”, or “Just what the fuck exactly is wrong with you people?”
“Do you think the human chattering means anything?”
First translation
Here is an elephant translator:
I dont think its great or anything, a bit of a gimmick. Really, the most decoded animal language is probably prairie dogs, but I’ve not heard of anyone trying to make a translator for it.
Hell yeah, I hope it works for orcas too so I can thank the ones that have been trashing the yachts.
How do I say “I support my seafaring cetacean brethren” in Orca?
I’m learning how to sail right now. It would be great to have that sorted out before I make my way by Gibraltar.
Huge rock, can’t miss it.
Follow the stars and don’t look down
Don’t blast heavy metal.
So what I’m hearing is they can literally talk to each other in a way that we do and we still kill them constantly.
We kill humans constantly too, and we probably obliterated the rest of the hominins also. I’m just saying we have a chequered track record.
I share this understanding with you and this is why I say that AI will absolutely kill us because that is what we would do. It’s trained on our data afterall.
I guess, but it feels to me like wiping out a species close to our intelligence is worse that killing each other.
This is big news! We’ve got a lemmy community specifically about Digital Bioacoustics (technology and animal communication) for anyone interested.
Oooh, look! The translation’s coming through!!
Thanks… for… all… the…
…
For what? Thanks for all the what?!
Ovaltine
Obama?
Fuck, you people are everywhere, hunh?
This is what I came here for
Fish
“I wish I could speak whale!” - Dory
Oooooooookayyyyyyy
They probably have nothing interesting to say anyway. After a year or two all the scientists will be like “I fucking know you like krill, whale. Shut the fuck up about the krill already”.
[Arthur Dent] learned to communicate with birds and discovered that their conversation was fantastically boring. It was all to do with wind speed, wingspans, power-to-weight ratios, and a fair bit about berries.
– Douglas Adams, 'Life, the Universe, and Everything.
“So Long, and thanks for all the fish”
If complete mutually intelligible communication of complex ideas with another species is undeniably proven, that will be a massive boon for veganism(although of course not all animals are equal), and a legal quagmire. What do you do if they are suffering in ways that we can fix due to their environment? Like humans were, and then we changed our environment. Do you give whales weapons so they can defend themselves from orcas? Do you shoot whale pochers? Do you shoot orcas attacking whales? Do you farm krill for them to eat? Do you drastically alter the ocean surface to be more comfortable for whales?
After all, most people recognize it as good to alter a person’s natural state(hunting and gathering from caves) for the better, so would that not be the same for animals that are considered essentially people or near-people?
We don’t even treat other humans on earth with dignity and respect and you think anything will change for whales as drastically as you propose? Maybe I’m mega jaded but I see this having little impact.
Nobody said anything about complex ideas. Maybe they just said. “fam food here”
Speaking to animals would be cool but I doubt they’d have much to share other than basic instincts.
Nobody said anything about complex ideas.
Well actually having a language allows way more complex ideas than ever communicated with an animal before
Last time I checked you don’t eat abstract linguistic concepts.
Abstract linguistic concepts ensure you can eat.
What is this idea about not eating non-humans I communicate with. I speak with my plants too and they entertain complex thought. Do I have to stop eating them? There is nothing out there that isn’t a person. Continue eating as you see fit and be kind to the living.
Speaking to something doesn’t mean it understands and reacts to it.
So just fucking say what it is! We know they’re intelligent. Just tell us how they all think we’re running the planet.
They’ve already dispatched Orcas to send that message. We don’t seem to be getting it.
Realistically, other whales would probably hate orcas, given they hunt whale calves
“Yoooooooouuuuuuuu guuuuuuuuuuyyyyyyysssss reallllllllllllyyyyyyy suuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkk. Exccccceeeept Garrrrrrryyyyyyy. Heeeee’sssss niiiiicccceeeeeeeeeooooooooo.” -The Wales probably.
It certainly worked for you.
Gracie is pregnant.
Uh-oh. Risa’s leaking again.
How did you know Gracie’s pregnant? Nobody knows that!
Gracie does.
Alameda… Nuclear vessels.
“Wessles.” FTFY
They’re still using money. We’ve got to get some.
“Who turned up the heat?”
Just in time for them to go extinct. It’ll be helpful in a few hundred years though when we need to travel back in time again.
They been talking to Dory?
Soooo this totally not going to go wrong by the military or a mad scientist?
I feel like I saw this movie.
This was my favorite episode of Extrapolations!
One of mine too. It’s a little scary seeing the things they got right so far.
It wasn’t a great show and I didn’t binge watch it, but I’m glad I ignored all the hate about it I read eventually. I really liked the drone defection plotline and the whale episode I feel is up there with some of the best Black Mirror stuff.
There was very much morale ambiguity of the “good” characters as well, it wasn’t all pro-environmentalist guys are all heroes, there was definitely eco-terrorism.
My Avatar whale dream might actually become a reality
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Sokath, his eyes uncovered.
tabular@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Temba. His arms wide.
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
Kadir beneath Mo Moteh.
SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Will and Gracie, in the tank.
Chekov, finding Alameeda
lethargic_lemming@lemmy.world 11 months ago
what does this reference
deegeese@sopuli.xyz 11 months ago
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darmok