The enshittification will continue until moral improves.
Amazon is now automatically playing fullscreen video ads on Fire TV
Submitted 11 months ago by throws_lemy@lemmy.nz to technology@lemmy.world
https://9to5google.com/2023/12/01/amazon-fire-tv-fullscreen-video-ads-autoplay/
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Soundhole@lemm.ee 11 months ago
GiddyGap@lemm.ee 11 months ago
The EU seems to be the only major entity actually trying at this point.
Endoran@lemmy.world 11 months ago
God Bless the EU.
foggy@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I will absolutely employ a 0 tolerance policy on forced ads.
If I have paid for a service to be ad free and you throw me an ad, I won’t pay for your service.
Hell, I’ll back-charge through my creditor and say I paid for a service that was not delivered.
Albbi@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Careful of backcharging large companies. They’ll remove your account from all their services. Looking at you Google.
grue@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That product tying is reason #3821 we need to start enforcing anti-trust law again.
trackindakraken@lemmy.whynotdrs.org 11 months ago
They don’t delete anything, though. They just deny YOU access to it.
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You get banned retrospectively too. I got banned from Adsense in 2003 and magically got demonetised from YouTube in 2006.
msage@programming.dev 11 months ago
Stop, I can only get so erect
random65837@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And that’s the exact reason that less and less people are taking credit cards and only taking debit and ACH.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Where do you see businesses accepting debit but not credit cards? I’ve only ever seen it accepting both or neither (in the case of neither, you have to physically mail in a check or link up ACH information). And the only time I see ACH or physical payment accepted is with governmental agencies in the US, because credit/debit costs them money to process while ACH/physical money does not.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I’ve never seen a merchant that doesn’t take a credit card. wtf are you talking about
ares35@kbin.social 11 months ago
not really. it's that credit cards usually cost a lot more per transaction in fees to the merchant.
circuscritic@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
People, or businesses?
For the rare business where it’s (unfortunately) standard practice e.g. gyms, I just setup a new (free) checking account with my existing bank.
Other than those rare, and “standarized” cases, they’d have to be critical to my ability to keep breathing for me to even consider using a check, or another payment method linked directly to bank, including a debit transaction that requires my PIN, or ever using my debit card online.
bleistift2@feddit.de 11 months ago
I’d look through the fine print if it says that they won’t serve ads. Cause I doubt that.
ares35@kbin.social 11 months ago
'we reserve the right to change..... (this, that, and everything else)'
TheEntity@kbin.social 11 months ago
The fine print didn't say I won't do a chargeback either. Two can play this game.
skozzii@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
“Wow, I can’t believe these fire sticks are so cheap”
BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Bought an early one. Used it for less than a year.
I still have it. Can they be flashed with Lineage or something?
pHr34kY@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Raiderkev@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That one guy hacked a company with a fire stick lol
purplemonkeymad@programming.dev 11 months ago
I’m surprised it wasn’t showing ads before. The fire tablets are discounted if they show ads on the lock screen.
garretble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
A great solution is just to stop buying from Amazon. Like, anything.
Chances are you did survive before Amazon was a thing. It’s possible.
Narlythotep@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I gave them 1 star and left a bad review for each of the fire tvs…they called me about the revie and then did nothing…buy a roku and throw out your $800 fire tv…it is worth it to take the loss for your own sanity
ultranaut@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I recently bought a Roku and was surprised to find they force ads on their home screen. It’s obviously not as terrible as a fullscreen ad but its still very annoying.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 11 months ago
buy a roku
Wait, what? A Roku has more ads than a fire TV. 1/3 of the screen is always an ad. For new releases they’ll sell the entire screen as an ad. ( Disney’s Seeing Red was a full screen splash ad on my Roku.)
Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Lol the Roku has far more invasive ads. Get a Chromecast, or best yet, an Nvidia Shield.
jbloggs777@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
You pay the Amazon tax indirectly often enough regardless. Huge chunks of the Internet run on AWS. And if it’s not AWS, then it’s Google Cloud or Microsoft Azure. Shareholders win again.
As for not buying shitty products, returning them when you realise how shitty they are, cancelling contracts when services turn shitty, etc. Yes, do that.
garretble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s true you can’t really control who uses AWS and you’ll end up on sites that use it, but it’s so easy to not buy anything from Amazon directly.
Their shipping services aren’t even that good any more from what I hear (I haven’t bought from them in years).
chiliedogg@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s also a terrible site now. It’s nothing but Alibaba crap marked up 700% and counterfeit products.
kirkmulderch@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
True dat. Fuck advertising. Fuck capitalism. Stop buying crap. Eat the rich.
ky56@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I to this day have proudly never bought anything from Amazon (unless you count the one ebay purchase that was shipped from Amazon without my knowledge). However I have run into a couple of products, namely quality name brand USB4 cables (Plugable and Ugreen) that I for the life of me cannot find anywhere but Amazon in Australia.
So yes I have proudly survived without Amazon until very soon. I will try to continue to not use Amazon however with some sellers opting to exclusively sell on Amazon, I feel I am being left with no choice. It seems not enough boycotted Amazon when it mattered to the point that there are an increasing amount of items that are only available through them.
Facebook and Amazon are on my shit list due to their shear contempt for their customers/products and employees.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I would but at that point it would be very difficult to get some of the specialty tools I use. I have a whole catalog and it takes ages to get anything from it.
the_post_of_tom_joad@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Naw, it didn’t stop any other company i boycotted, and thinking it does is actually a silly idea to consider if you give it a minute to be in the ol’ noggin.
If it did make a difference there’d be a bunch of astroturf campaigns against voting with your wallet, wouldn’t there?
The only thing that stops this is something we’re not ready for yet.
laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
It doesn’t make a difference unless enough people boycott. The problem is not enough people care enough to actually stop going there to hurt their revenue.
Then there’s the problem with the current political division, at least in the US, where if something upsets one side, the other likes to dig in to stick it to them and often winds up giving the boycotted company more money than they’ll ever lose.
ichbinjasokreativ@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And what is that one thing?
clark@midwest.social 11 months ago
Experienced this for the first time yesterday. It’s my dad paying for Amazon, and we mutually discovered we couldn’t skip the ad. Asked him, “aren’t you gonna boycott it now?”, and he told me no. “Not too much of an issue”, he said. This is the attitude that enables enshittification.
InternetUser2012@midwest.social 11 months ago
Fuck that. High seas it is, they can kiss my ass. I will not pay to watch advertisements.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Probably because one ad is like nothing compared to what we used to have to deal with on broadcast TV. Sadly the general public who have only just recently gotten into streaming in the last few years still have those kinds of ad breaks fresh in memory.
ky56@aussie.zone 11 months ago
I was halfway through reading and thinking that it would be a wholesome ending. I guess not.
confused_code_monkey@lemm.ee 11 months ago
You can update the TVs settings to block these new large video ads. However, Amazon is getting more and more intrusive with its ads. I imagine that, similar to the Alexa Shows that I also use, every few weeks they’ll tweak the ads, making your previous “disable this” settings no longer applicable. It’s technically a new ad type, so they can auto enable it again. Super frustrating.
Largely in response to these new autoplay ads, I replaced my Fire TV with an LG TV. I’ve got another LG TV from only a few years ago that doesn’t really have ads. This one… does. Damn it. Don’t get me wrong, they’re much less in-your-face when compared to Amazon’s ads. But, damn, does everything just have to be ads now?
a_fancy_kiwi@lemmy.world 11 months ago
For all of Apple’s faults, their Apple TV is pretty decent. A home screen with apps on them; no ads. It’s great
Ilikecheese@lemm.ee 11 months ago
God, if I could just install SmartTube and Kodi/Stremio on an Apple TV, I’d convert in a heartbeat. Until then, I’ll keep my Shield TV Pro.
loki_d20@lemmy.world 11 months ago
If only it didn’t require me to buy a newer iPhone or iPad to validate my account.
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Agree 100% with this, and I’ve tried most all of them.
BlackAura@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My LG TV updated to show ads in the input selection menu. I was pissed for a few months until someone showed me you can disable them in the settings. Maybe you can disable them on yours?
regdog@lemmy.world 11 months ago
You switched from a system that is currently shitty (Fire TV) but easily replaceable (just an HDMI addon) to a system that is currently less shitty (LG TV) but now you are firmly locked in into the LG eco system.
As bad as FireTV currently is, at least you can easily ditch it. Just pull the plug and buy another brand of TV stick.
If you keep relying on your smart TV apps then you will have to endure the slow shittyfication for years to come.
csm10495@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
What setting disables the current ones?
BigVault@kbin.social 11 months ago
Currently using a Roku Streambar for all of our streaming needs but if they pull this crap, everything we consume will be downloaded, served on my Plex server and streamed using the gaming PC I have under our TV.
Getting beyond sick of these companies using every measure and device they can to shit ads into our eyes.
linearchaos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
My Roku is pie holed, I don’t Even get the main screen ads anymore.
ares35@kbin.social 11 months ago
as soon as services and sites start doing the same thing yt does.. delivering ads via the same servers and hostnames as the content.. pihole and other dns-based solutions lose their effectiveness.
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Its sad so many people seem to lack pattern recognition and don’t appreciate that Plex is no different than any of these companies, they’re just not as far along on the enshitification cycle.
They’re for-profit, providing a “free” service. They will fuck you and the platform. It’s not an if, it’s a when. They’re already moving in that direction.
Tandybaum@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I can’t believe there isn’t a good HTPC OS that can handle launching Netflix, prime, plex, whatever.
I haven’t used Kodi in a few year but at least then Kodi and the big apps didn’t play well together.
Max17@lemmy.world 11 months ago
What OS are you using for the gaming pc under your TV? Wanted to do something alike but don’t know what would be the best OS for something like that
BigBananaDealer@lemm.ee 11 months ago
awesome! i love unskippable ads! especially when i pay monthly to even use the service! bezos always getting W’s!!!
gogosempai@programming.dev 11 months ago
No end to the greed of these corporations.
wheresmypillow@lemmy.one 11 months ago
You can skip them. It’s more like a screen saver than anything.
buru5@lemmy.world 11 months ago
this is just a smidgen of the first-world’s self-inflicted punishment. very excited to see what happens next.
Mereo@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
Well, you get what you pay for. It’s very cheap for a reason: you are the product.
I got an Apple TV in 2018 and it’s still working perfectly. Yes, it was expensive, but it has no ads, it’s still fast and responsive, and it still gets updates.
bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Ditto, I caved and got an Apply TV around 2020 after getting fed up with Android TV OS being complete garbage and constantly crashing. I’m not even an Apple fan, but the user experience was a night and day difference. Siri ended up actually being really useful in a TV remote, no more typing in passwords manually or typing in search bars.
burliman@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I bought an Apple TV recently for a secondary TV and it’s a real pleasure to use. Also have a Shield Pro in the theater which is getting annoying with ads and silly UX changes. I used to sing the praises of the Shield and encouraged many friends/family to buy it in the past (even over Apple TV). But not anymore.
higgsone@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is the way. Apple TV is an amazing device and I hope it’ll be even better in 1-2 years. Put an M3 inside the Apple TV and you get a console and multimedia device. I really Apple will do this.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That shit is annoying, Shit starts to blast out loud before I adjusted the audio. It’s like going to some old website that would autoplay music obnoxiously.
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
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poudlardo@jlai.lu 11 months ago
The day nvidia shield start doing that shit i’m going straight for Kodi in a mini-pc
ink@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
This is so annoying. It goes into a full screen ad as soon as you turn it on, so I babysit the remote and navigate to an app as soon as it turns on, in order to avoid ads. It also does this if you let the TV idle, which I also hate. I might just throw it away and go back to hooking up a laptop to the TV instead. I paid $70-ish bucks for this stupid thing.
mirror_slap@lemmy.world 11 months ago
These devices were annoying a decade ago. Comical that people still buy these when Roku and Android TV are so much nicer.
pineapplelover@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Ever since getting a fire stick I’ve been hooking my laptop up to the tv instead. Now I can play games, watch movies, shows, etc
catch22@programming.dev 11 months ago
Our household completely ditched all Amazon products and services 4 or so years ago and never looked back. I shop local and on alternative sites for everything, it took a little adjusting at first. I think we have had to buy something from Amazon maybe once or twice in the last 4 years because I we couldn’t get it anywhere else. A few months ago I switched the 1 Amazon product we had owned forever, a Fire Stick to a Roku the first company I had ever used a streaming device from 10-15 years ago, I thought briefly about wiping the Fire Stick and donating it, but decided to toss it with the thought of adding someone else’s user data to the Bezos empire.
Binthinkin@kbin.social 11 months ago
Crazy how stupid you have to be to buy Amazon Fire products.
TetraVega@lemmings.world 11 months ago
I always say ads are a nuisance and need to be eradicated. None of my friends agree with me… whatever, enjoy your ads
JCreazy@midwest.social 11 months ago
Can we start invoicing these companies for the ads they make us watch? They should be paying us.
Rizoid@programming.dev 11 months ago
My Chromecast is doing it’s job fine with app only mode but the day they change it or take away that mode I’ve got some mini PCs ready to have libreelec thrown up on them.
Pixlbabble@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I also hate the BS of 30 sec ad of another show before the show I want to watch and can’t skip. Looking at you Paramount.
m3t00@lemmy.world 11 months ago
aoer@feddit.de 11 months ago
I noticed this too and will probably switch to something different. I have noch idea where to switch to though. Nvidia is apparently also adding ads. Chinese android boxes are not trustworthy at all. Chromecast also feels a bit icky with all the stuff Google pulled off on YouTube. I really just want to switch to a Linux bases htpc, but then Netflix will only be 720p and that’s not acceptable. IMHO there currently is no good streaming box
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 11 months ago
🏴☠️
bleistift2@feddit.de 11 months ago
I think this will be the last year I’m an Amazon Prime customer. Their music streaming is beyond shitty, all the stuff that interests me on Instant Video isn’t free anyway, and I don’t buy enough Prime-eligible products to make the 100-ish euros worth it.
I find it interesting how they can get away with increasing the costs while reducing the service.
BarterClub@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
And Chrome Cast. Sigh
devilish666@lemmy.world 11 months ago
People who using PiHole/Adguard Home & NextDNS be like what ads ?
rem26_art@kbin.social 11 months ago
my parents keep buying Amazon FireTV devices and they are so annoying and underpowered. I want them to just buy an HTPC or something, but they wont listen cuz thats more expensive, even tho they've been through multiple Fire TVs cuz they crap out
NounsAndWords@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Frog: “Hey, did any of you guys notice the water get a couple degrees hotter?”
Other Frogs: Already boiled alive
TWeaK@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Frog with hacked firestick and a pirate subscription: huh?
Frog who downloads media himself and hosts it on his own server: you guys are in water?
rostby@lemmy.fmhy.net 11 months ago
You are not immune to propaganda
AtariDump@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Hacked how?
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 11 months ago
And when that frog realizes that all the other frogs in the water have been caught and eaten already, where do you think the predators are going to turn to next?
deweydecibel@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s why I’m struggling really, really hard not to feel to annoyed with the average consumers that still buy this trash instead of supporting less oppressive alternatives.
Like, yeah, people should just be able to buy what they like and not have to concern themselves with the overall market trends they’re helping to entrench… But holy shit is it becoming a serious problem. The customers are what drive the direction of the market, and the customers are sleepwalking us all off a god damn cliff, and by the time they wake up to start complaining about it, we will already be halfway down.
CosmicCleric@lemmy.world 11 months ago
They’ll be at the “too big to fail” point, where to try to reverse the trend would crash the economy that’s based on selling customer privacy and information.
treefrog@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I’m still alive.
But only because I ditched Amazon Prime at the end of the month.
Karyoplasma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Of course you are. Frogs jump out if the water gets too hot regardless how slowly the temperature is rising.
Ethos_logos@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I left when they started charging $10-11 for whole food deliveries. It used to be included.
They also used to have Amazon fresh and Amazon pantry delivery, but they exited my suburban area, too.
So now Walmart+ gets my money.