The new definition is bullshit. Even earth hasn’t fully cleared its orbit.
Gótefodamn Inyalowdas just wanna keep my home Eris down, Sasa Ke?
Pluto is still a planet, just a dwarf one
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prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
I fucking hate this shit so much. THIS is what “science” means to average Americans, making posts on the internet about being emotional about how a fucking planet is or isn’t classified.
No real curiosity, or desire to understand anything. Just repeat the meme so everyone knows that you’re in on the “culture"too and lol omg Pluto is a planet and that is so important to me guys.
It’s not “just fun,” It’s just another facet of the pervasive anti-intellectualism in this country.
Jumi@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Memes are just internet insiders so of course you’d find “I’m in on the joke"-stuff in this part of it. So stop whinging.
GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I’m not concerned with Pluto’s feelings. If it’s too small, has an irregular orbit, hasn’t cleared it’s immediate vicinity, etc., then fine, it doesn’t meet the objective standards by which we’re going to define planets going forward, that’s totally acceptable.
But saying that a dwarf planet isn’t a planet is just bad etymology. It’s got the word planet right in there, but it’s not a planet? That’s super confusing for the casual user.
Planetoid, on the other hand, had been in common use for literally decades, and it makes perfectly good etymological sense. Asteroid = star-like, because if you’re not careful you might mistake it for a star. Planetoid = planet-like, for the same reason.
I don’t want justice for Pluto, I want justice for linguistic clarity!
Erusset@slrpnk.net 9 hours ago
Should be something like PeniPlanet/PaenPlanet = “Almost a planet”, Like Peninsula/Paeninsula = “Almost an island”
Mad_Punda@feddit.org 19 hours ago
https://youtube.com/watch?v=grdu6UBK76w
Recommended watch
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 12 hours ago
I love how he mentions Pluto like… once.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
That was fun, thanks!
gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 20 hours ago fun fact: it’s also the only planet discovered by an american, which i suspect is why americans have such a big “pluto is a planet” movement - they’re proud of the only planet they discovered.
i’ve literally never heard anyone argue about whether pluto is a planet over here in europe. it’s just not an issue.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
I mean, there was a group of Europeans that were pretty adamant about it not being a planet.
roker@thelemmy.club 4 hours ago
This comment takes the cake for the weirdest anti-American comment I’ve read on Lemmy today. I get it, America is bad, but how in the sam’s hell did you come to the conclusion that it had anything to do with an American discovering it? (90% of the country probably doesn’t know that, btw)
RamenJunkie@midwest.social 12 hours ago
Not just an American, one from Illinois. And Illinois passed a law so Pluto is legally still a planet.
https://columbiachronicle.com/metro/79ce17ec-ff01-5e3d-88f4-60f2480ce7fa/
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
Wow, what a stupid fucking waste of time and money.
I’m struggling to put into words why this shit irks me so much… It’s like they’re trying to turn mainstream understanding of science into a team sport like they’ve done with politics.
In fact, now that I think about it that way it makes complete sense, and it’s been wildly successful.
- gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 11 hours ago
“People still love Pluto; they always have,” Sweitzer said. “Think of it this way. Let’s say you have a dozen cats at home, but one of them has always been kind of strange. It’s furry like a cat. It has four legs like a cat. But every so often it barks. But you just think, ‘Oh, that’s just strange Sparky. He’s a little off.’ Then one day you learn about dogs and all of a sudden you realize Sparky is actually not a cat at all-he’s a dog. That doesn’t change how much you love Sparky. And that is how it is with Pluto.”
whoa that’s charming :3
Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
I don’t think most Americans are aware of Pluto being an American discovery. That would require scientific and historical knowledge, both things that are not our strong points.
I say this as an American astronomy nerd.
kevin2107@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
facts
melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 hours ago
What about in the old myths where Pluto, Neptune, Mars were used as god’s names? Weren’t they referring to the planets back then?
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Other way around.
troglodytis@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Pluto never changed, we did
FundMECFS@piefed.zip 6 hours ago
Exactly. Planet is a social construct and we changed the threshold for what was considered one.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
No, our scientific understanding evolved, and a classification of something changed. It’s really not any deeper than that.
Happens constantly in science. Kind of one of its defining features actually
troglodytis@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
The beauty of science. Most exciting when we find out we’re incorrect
Lemminary@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
Way to beat a dead horse, Lemmy
atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 22 hours ago
Wait until you find out what they did to Ceres!!!
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 23 hours ago
Is Peter Dinklage not a human? What about Linda Hunt?
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Dinklage has been on the record pulling up the ladder after getting money and fame so imma vote “no.”
Crostro@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Didn’t even the poor guy finish a whole victory lmao around the sun either
Zidane@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I’ll never forgive or forget what they did to you Pluto
carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 day ago why do so many people care that some big rock had its category of big rock changed…
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 hours ago
It honestly irks the fuck out of me that people care so much (or pretend to care as some form of cultural pantomime?).
Turning science into a team sport. What could possibly go wrong.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net 17 hours ago
People care about things not because of some intrinsic value, but because of our relationship to them.
We love our pets, and don’t really care about food animals. We are upset when a friend is in an accident, but not about people who died 500 years ago. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Lumidaub@feddit.org 23 hours ago They thought they were being taught a capital T Truth about how the world works and they were never told that that’s not how science works. So when science took away that Truth, their entire worldview was in peril because what other Truths can just be thrown out willy-nilly?!
chunes@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Because it broke our mnemonics.
My very educated mother just served us nine pizzas.
Pizzas. Nine of them.
Not nachos.
Successful_Try543@feddit.org 20 hours ago
In German, my father now has to explain the entire *night sky*, not just *our nine planets*.
socsa@piefed.social 1 day ago
Pluto is not sentient. It cares not for the judgement of men.
- Lumidaub@feddit.org 23 hours ago
It would have to be sapient to care for the judgement anyway.
Haaveilija@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Rock and stone!
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
I like to imagine the alternative world, where instead of deplanetizing Pluto, they planetized all the dwarf planets and planetoids in our system.
- gandalf_der_12te@feddit.org 20 hours ago
in fact, there are only glowing stars and non-glowing stars :)
mkwt@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If that happened, then school children would no longer be required to learn the names of all of the planets. That’s just a practical concern with adding another several dozen planets to the list.
And I think it is worthwhile to make kids learn the names and some basic facts about the 8 planets we have.
Deconceptualist@leminal.space 22 hours ago
Did you ever have to memorize the periodic table? This would be a walk in the park by comparison, at least using the current dwarf planet definition.
frog@feddit.uk 1 day ago
The Earth’s Moon is about 1.5 times bigger than Pluto.
bob_lemon@feddit.org 2 hours ago
And the 2006 decimation of planet that made Pluto not a planet explicitly added “must not orbit another object” to stop the moon from being a planet.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 13 hours ago
And Titan is 6% bigger than Mercury.
mrsemi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
in Asimov’s Foundation series, there is (was) a galaxy-spanning human civilization, but Earth was lost and mostly considered mythical. One of the arguments against it actually existing was the absurdity of such a double planet system existing. In the wider galaxy only giant planets had such large satellites.
DrWorm@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 day ago
diverging@piefed.social 1 day ago How many planets are in orbit around the sun? 8
How many planets are in the entire universe? 8, because a planet has to orbit the sun.- Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 day ago
That’s just for our own solar system.
- diverging@piefed.social 1 day ago
The IAU resolution (pdf) that they voted on does not include what comes after “More generally”. The page that you link to is apparently the source and is not official.
DivineDev@piefed.social 1 day ago
How many planets have ever completed an orbit around the sun: 8, since Pluto has such a long orbital period that in it’s entire time as a planet it did not even finish a single one.
- diverging@piefed.social 1 day ago
Pluto has completed millions of orbits around the sun.
At the time of the IAUs release of the definition of a planet, Neptune had not completed an orbit since its discovery, and yet they still called it a planet. Clearly, this weird and arbitrary statement that you have put forth did not matter.
mrsemi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Take a lesson from space
They say “Pluto’s not a planet”
Do you think that Pluto gives a shit?
Pluto is not gonna quit
‘Cause Pluto can take a hit
And Pluto knows what Pluto is
And Pluto knows that Pluto’s
Hot shit!
And you know Pluto knows it
I won’t ever be a planet, it don’t matter, ‘cause I know that I’m still
Hot shit!
And you’re hot shit too, so get out of your brain and just do what you’re supposed to do!
Hot shit!
And you know Pluto knows it
Expect some fuckin’ magic from the Dwarf Planet
Hot shit!
And you’re hot shit too, so get out of your way and just do what you were born to do!
MousePotatoDoesStuff@piefed.social 1 day ago
I came here to reference this too :D
PugJesus@piefed.social 1 day ago
This is outrageous. It’s unfair!
MutantTailThing@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Calm down Anakin
Oisteink@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I know!! And I heard they’re making Jupiter female!!
- Lumidaub@feddit.org 1 day ago
It also has a bunch of new, much less scarily big friends now. HulkAbsoluteWin.png
dwarves would like a word