YouTube intensifies fight against ad blockers showing pop-ups, and users are frustrated | Blocking ad-block users::undefined
They have pissed 4channers. You do not piss 4channers. The last time that happened, Trump got elected.
YouTube intensifies fight against ad blockers showing pop-ups, and users are frustrated | Blocking ad-block users
Submitted 6 months ago by L4s@lemmy.world [bot] to technology@lemmy.world
Comments
Chickenstalker@lemmy.world 6 months ago
PoliticalAgitator@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Also they literally go on killing sprees.
yoz@aussie.zone 6 months ago
Lol
NightOwl@lemmy.one 6 months ago
I was using newpipe x Sponsorblock on Android exclusively, and now on desktop I’ve moved to freetube. Never did get the pop up telling me to remove Adblock but decided to make the jump early.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
still using Firefox and ublock and all seems fine to me
grte@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Same. I’m wondering if it’s limited to certain markets for the time being.
silver@lemmy.brendan.ie 6 months ago
I am using unlock and Firefox and getting hit by the anti-adblock
ramblinguy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I have never gotten a adblock popup using Firefox and ublock origin while my friend has gotten several on Chrome. I wonder if I’m just lucky that I’m not in the adblock block rollout on YouTube or if Firefox+ublock is working
akilou@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Same Firefox and unlock setup (also sponsorblock) but I got a pop-up about ad blockers the other day and I just closed it and the rest of the site works fine.
Fades@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Who asked
schwim@reddthat.com 6 months ago
Freetube adopter as well. The experience is actually an improvement over using the yt site. I wish I had done it earlier.
rkk@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Also this seems to be the safest way as your account not linked to freetube. Yt looses all data like age, likes and comments. Only the number of views gives them any feedback. This will bring down yt. All we need is time to work out alternatives. Yt censorship and demonetizing rules are killing the platform anyway.
Skyhighatrist@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
The only issue I have with freetube is that I sometimes like to click on the recommended videos on YouTube’s front page. If I switch to freetube entirely, I’ll lose that. But if uBlock doesn’t continue to work I will make the switch and the YouTubers I wouldn’t normally see just won’t get my views any longer.
RealFknNito@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Why are so many of you alergic to paying creators to make videos? I get doing it on most sites, but buy premium of the sites like nexus mods or YouTube where people make content so they aren’t making shit you enjoy for free.
pelotron@midwest.social 6 months ago
The insinuation that website users somehow have a responsibility to watch ads so that the website’s 3rd party content creators can make money reads like a case of Stockholm Syndrome. YouTube are the ones paying the creators, not me, and can change the terms by which they calculate creator payments at any time. If YT decides that now, ads viewed during the hours of 7pm to 10pm result in higher creator payments, where is my role in that? Am I now obligated to prefer viewing ads during that time?
Plenty of content is uploaded to YT by people who don’t and never will get creator payments. Do I have to watch those ads?
My contract with YT is that I control what data is downloaded by and presented on my PC, not them. That Silicon Valley has decided that everything is free, but with ads, is unfortunate. If they’re unable to fund their business or their content if I use an ad blocker, then it seems to me like they’re pretty fucking bad at business.
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 6 months ago
I’m okay with paying for YouTube but I don’t want a Google account. If Google ever reinstates having YT accounts then I will consider paying.
MikuNPC@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Some of us pay for premium but still use Revanced and Freetube because they are simply better youtube clients. Sponsorblock, themes, customizable UI, performance, etc. The adblocking is just icing on the cake
gingersneak@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Using ReVanced and having a fantastic time. If they find a way to block a locally patched client that is only a few versions behind, I will be impressed.
LifeLikeLady@lemmy.world 6 months ago
For as many hours of YouTube I watch 4+ daily at least. I don’t mind paying for Premium to avoid the hassle. Plus I get music with it.
julianh@lemm.ee 6 months ago
YouTube isn’t gonna give you brownie points for shilling for them
Supervisor194@lemmy.world 6 months ago
This is a Google employee, they have a room full of the who do nothing but this astroturf shit all day, just like every siezable company in the world. It’s a waste of breath to even respond to them. It’s increasingly a waste of time to do fucking anything on the Internet.
YoungLiars@aussie.zone 6 months ago
This is a controversial viewpoint on here. You have to be pirating everything and using Linux otherwise you are corporate shill and will be downvoted for having a different viewpoint. Talk about an echo chamber.
I have used YouTube premium for years and years now, it is the best value subscription service I use. I haven’t seen an add in years, I don’t have to find loopholes and I get to support the creators that produce great content. Also music.
Swarfega@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I don’t, but I’m fine with paying for premium. I hate that a lot of content has sponsored content that your premium subscription doesn’t remove. Even if I paid for premium I’d still need to have SponsorBlock to make it watchable.
scottyjoe9@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
I pay for premium but I ended up installing revanced on my phone so I could disable shorts and it also skips in-video ads which is really nice. I didn’t disable YouTube’s ad blocking though because I don’t need to.
JewGoblin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m wondering,.can you use sponsorblock with premium YT?
southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Shit, dude, I was in your corner until the edit. It’s supposed to be about choice. Those that wanna pay, pay. Those that can put up with ads, put up with them. Those that wanna say fuck YouTube, well, arr matey.
So, you rock on with your choice. You didn’t, as far as I can see, bitch at anyone else’s choice, so keep on rocking.
But ffs, never, ever whine about votes. Doesn’t matter if they’re up or down, they’re just part of the forum. You say your peace, you get the votes you get (and if you check my user history, you’ll see plenty of shit I’ve said where I did exactly that, so this isn’t from someone that’s all pristine or shit), and that’s the way it is.
julianh@lemm.ee 6 months ago
I mean the free choice argument falls apart a bit when you consider that YouTube is essentially a monopoly.
MrSqueezles@lemm.ee 6 months ago
From the article
even if some users stop using YouTube, there won’t be a loss of revenue because those users weren’t watching ads anyway.
Guys, YouTube doesn’t give a flying fuck that you aren’t going to consume their content without paying. That’s the point. They’re only rolling this out slowly to be sure they aren’t impacting their actual customers.
Lemmy felt like classic reddit for about a week, actual content that I wanted to see, discussions at an adult level. The amount of bandwagoning and “me too”, “fuck corporations” comments has me signing on less and less.
korewa@reddthat.com 6 months ago
Same here. It’s nice to have high quality niche content from individual content creators and with premium I believe they get better revenue than ad supported users.
jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 6 months ago
I think the best way to support them is through donations.
Most have links to them.
Ads are out of hand, that is why many left cable and subscription based platforms are the next thing.
Piracy is growing and that is good, it forces these greedy companies to inovate or to do better.
Tumnus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
That’s a big "hell no"from me
HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 6 months ago
It is worth it for some.
stardust@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
I wish people didn’t care about downvotes. Always hated the edits on reddit reacting to being downvoted. Would downvote comments I agreed with too if they whined about votes.
poopkins@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Downvoting this guy complaining about downvoting.
JewGoblin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I used to care for about 2 minutes, it’s just strange to worry about fake Internet points, but I guess humans like the endorphins or rewards for the brain.
social media got a lot of their ideas from the gambling sector
AngryMob@lemmy.one 6 months ago
Its not relevant to this particular commenter, but ive made downvote edits when i get to -5 or -10 but have no replies. Especially when i felt like i had a reasonable take. My edit is usually asking for responses from those who disagree, rather than just a “edit: fuck you haters”.
glarf@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yep, same here. Premium is worth it for me too. I don’t understand the entitlement on lemmy with YouTube, it’s worse than reddit.
poopkins@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m with you, but I’ve found that any post here on Lemmy about YouTube, Spotify, or any other streaming service ends up the same: artists have enough money already, artists are paid better through merchandise and performances (no citation provided and the author acknowledges they don’t actually do this), these services don’t pay enough anyway, non-paying users are entitled to a better experience; all this is to excuse themselves of stealing content from creators they love by bootlegging it illegally.
Thorny_Insight@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Agreed. I’m currently paying for streaming services that I get less value from than what I get from YouTube.
Squeak@lemmy.world 6 months ago
For as many hours of YouTube that I watch, maybe 1 hour daily, I don’t mind setting my VPN to turkey and paying $15 for the year. I mostly use it for music anyway… I certainly wouldn’t pay the full price for it though.
GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 6 months ago
This guy gets it
Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Go back to Reddit
JewGoblin@lemmy.world 6 months ago
can you use sponsorblock with premium?
dotMonkey@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yes
gilbert31@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Use Firefox, update the uBlockOrigin extension, update the filters, remove any other adblocking extension in case you have it. Should work just fine then.
londos@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I use Firefox with uBlockOrigin and haven’t had to do any manual updates or anything. I still seem to be unaffected by the changes everyone is talking about. Is it a slow rollout or does uBO just silently keep up with it?
KneeTitts@lemmy.world 6 months ago
not working for me anymore, I have firefox + ublock and updated the filter, they are blocking now after 3 videos
A2PKXG@feddit.de 6 months ago
For now. If YT really wants to end it, they can
jwagner7813@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Fuck it. I’ll just say this instead. It’s time to break up the tech monopolies. Google, Microsoft, etc.
Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 6 months ago
TRUST BUSTING: 21st CENTURY EDITION! FUCK YEAHHHH
Aux@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Yeah, good luck hosting a high quality video streaming service for free and eating up millions of dollars in losses.
spudwart@spudwart.com 6 months ago
Of course most everyone here would agree, but the likelyhood of that ever happening is incredibly low.
yamanii@lemmy.world 6 months ago
87.7% of the users watch on mobile, they are this mad about 12.3% possibly having access to an adblock.
Mkengine@feddit.de 6 months ago
Do you mean 87.7% use the YouTube iOS/Android App or 87.7% use their smartphone to watch YouTube? Because in the latter case you also can use ReVanced, Firefox + Adblock, Invidious, etc.
Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I watch on mobile and have all ads blocked. There are multiple options a ton of people use
TwilightVulpine@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I was fine with ads a couple years ago, but the number, length and frequency of them keeps ramping up. This wouldn’t need to be such a struggle if they just were reasonable about it.
Something_Complex@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Lol look at me change to piped
sugartits@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ll look forward to reading this yet again next week, alongside all the entitlement in the comments section that seem to think running YouTube is free and recommending trash alternatives which have less than 1% of YouTube’s content and don’t even work.
See you next week!
FeelThePower@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 months ago
I installed a userscript today that plays ads in muted embeds hidden behind the actual player so that it effectively and quite literally blocks them while still leaving actual ublock disabled on the site. works pretty well.
Mandy@sh.itjust.works 6 months ago
Users complain but 99% of the 0,01% that actually use adblockers will just continue, just like how internet “boycotts” always end, by going back to the dystopian status quo
DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 6 months ago
Revanced still going strong on mobile, which is where I watch YouTube 99% of the time.
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 6 months ago
…what? This headline makes no sense.
dangblingus@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Firefox and UBO still block all ads for me on YT and I’m not being blocked.
scripthook@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I was annoyed by this. Check out FREETUBE which is a private youtube client for pc, mac and linux. No ads and 100% private - take that google
mlg@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Really hoping some IPFS alternative takes off. Youtube has already been tanking in quality but no one changes because its a monopoly on online videos.
And if Twitter has shown us anything, it’s that people legitimately won’t leave a crappy platform unless there’s a significant popular and better alternative that can scale immediately to demand.
YashaB@lemmy.world 6 months ago
It appears YT is the new cable television. Let’s see if it follows it to the grave.
I’ll watch from the sidelines, enjoying my subscription to nebula.
raynethackery@lemmy.world 6 months ago
If you have any stored payment methods on Google Pay, I’d remove them. Whose to say they won’t try to sneak some clause in their TOS that says if you use an ad blocker, they will charge you for Premium. removes tinfoil hat
CaptainProton@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Grayjay.app is the way forward
yoz@aussie.zone 6 months ago
Anyone used Odyssey? Louis Rossman recently made a video where he said he had a channel on Odyssey but not many users use it
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’m still not seeing ads in brave browser, just in case anyone didnt know. On Android Newpipe also works and freetube for desktop too.
zcd@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
Fuck YouTube
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I agree. YouTube can be very useful, but we really ought to be moving to other platforms at this point. Fuck YouTube.
Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 6 months ago
I’ve been using YouTube far more than any of my paid services for years. However I’m ready for a switch. If the YouTubers who I follow switched platforms I’d go with them in a second.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world 6 months ago
Problem is hosting all the video. You either have one host or many (P2P). Both have issues.
Ronnie@lemmy.ca 6 months ago
For sure! Which video site are you using instead?
SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 6 months ago
Xhamster
HKayn@dormi.zone 6 months ago
It’s amusing to see how nobody is answering this question.
Fades@lemmy.world 6 months ago
yt.whateveritworks.org
A2PKXG@feddit.de 6 months ago
The reason while they have all the content, is precisely because they can generate revenue for channels. I much prefer payment through subcription and ad views to annoying in video sponsors and product placements
hightrix@lemmy.world 6 months ago
But on YouTube you get both. If I could pay and not get in video sponsorship along with no ads, then I might consider it. But I will not pay to be advertised at.