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• The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I think as it grows, we’ll see more and more of the same crowd, but the structure of Lemmy will help the culture feel different.

  Nobody can own Lemmy, by design. (Even the creators just have the .ml instance)

  No ads, and no corporate pressures to be advertiser friendly.

  No weird profit-driven decisions.

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  • Mongostein@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well, an instance could decide they wanted to try to make money, but I think everyone would just bail on them. People are more than happy to help out servers with donations, no need to make it a business venture.

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    • joenforcer@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t think so. There are very few communities that actually successfully fully left reddit. A good number of them splintered across circlejerkers on multiple lemmy instances with the users remaining on reddit asking “what’s a lemmy” and staying put. The vast majority never left reddit at all, and don’t give a fuck that reddit is trying to build a business.

      Where the lemmy hivemind fails is that a bunch of us are reddit refugees that lost our favorite mobile apps, so you get a bunch of delusional people here thinking that reddit is dead and lemmy is the best thing ever. It’s not. Lemmy has a lot of the same problems reddit had, and we’re just repeating history. Wait until you need to squash extremism, prevent illegal content, and people maintaining the main instance (don’t kid yourself, it’s lemmy.world) need to eat.

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    • squiblet@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I picture the problem being someone doing that low-key. It’s common for app developers to get offers to install privacy-violating code in exchange for very tempting amounts of money - like, have a somewhat successful piano or to-do list app that you make $15k a year from? Wel, how about you install this spyware crap and we’ll give you $60,000. It’s difficult for small developers to say no. I could picture the same thing happening with Lemmy instances - a small change in ToS, some new JavaScript, and many people wouldn’t notice. At this point it’s u pokey as Lemmy members skew towards tech and privacy aware, but it could happen later on as the membership broadens.

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  • azurefirefly@lemmy.basedcount.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well except for apps like Boost which are proprietary and has ads.

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    • HRDS_654@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, but you can pay a pittance to remove the ads. It’s a one time fee of 3.50. Granted it’s still proprietary, but I chalk that up to the dev not knowing a lot about FOSS. Both the Sync and Boost devs came from developing Reddit apps and you need more cash flow to pay the proprietary API.

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      They took way too long to come to town, and now they have and it has ads, I don’t even want it, since Liftoff has pretty much the same UI and without ads.

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  • qyron@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    The scenario of companies opting to host instances may happen, just to try to jump into the bandwagon, which could imply they could/would at some point start to run ads but I’d risk the instance would quickly be defederated and/or turned into a hell pit.

    But the notion of seeing an instance being run by GOG, Valve/Steam (not a client or fan but I aknowledge they have put a lot of work towards Linux and gained a lot of support because of it), AMD (fanboy here, give me a pass), RPi (I am aware of the shady turn they have undergone) and other companies that have some degree of respect in the Fediverse could be interesting.

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    • crabArms@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Say more about the shady turn for RPi?

      Haven’t kept up with them for years but that seems like important info

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  • HenriVolney@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yes, but CAPITALISM!!!

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  • iorale@lemmynsfw.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

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    • Gork@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I don’t mind the news bot ones as much as the ask Reddit type threads that get crossposted here. If the OP can’t even see our responses (since the discussion is on Reddit), and a bot created the thread, what the hell is the point.

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    • ekZepp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I filtered off 99,9% of the bot from the setting, the rest seems pretty normal content. The “lack” of user is just what it is for a newly adopted platform. Ofk the the small new community needs time but the progress in few months was incredible. We are not talking of social like Xitter/Thread, where all you need is to move the user and recreate the page. Reddit work as a big discussions database with years of old content wich new user search all the time to find guides and info, you can replace that overnight.

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    • The_Picard_Maneuver@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I honestly just blocked like 2-3 newsbot users, and I barely see it anymore unless I scroll way too far.

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  • Spliffman1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Well said

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• nosurprises@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lemmy is a reddit clone with users from reddit. It’s not a bug, it’s a feature.

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  • LtLiana@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It wasn’t this way before. Lemmy had existed for years before Eternal September.

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    • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Ok but how do we set ourselves apart? Almost every new community is just reddit clone. There isn’t innovation. We are better and smarter and more dedicated, but we are just putting up with being decentralized reddit.

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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Two of the biggest Reddit apps converted to Lemmy recently too

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    • SparkKnight@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Which?

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• cley_faye@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Most of reddit’s content is user generated to some extent. If there’s bad content, it’s because of people. Most of lemmy’s content is user generated. Same cause same consequence.

  If we want to delve into what could be different… moderation. Made by people (aside from very far-reaching illegal stuff, on both platforms).

  Conclusion: the problem is people, not reddit nor lemmy.

  Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

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  • Spliffman1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Thank you for your contribution

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  • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Most of lemmy’s content is user generated

    It feels like half the global feed is bot posts.

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    • Death_Equity@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      And half of that is a repost from Reddit, which was also a Reddit repost.

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  • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    If people will be people, the interesting difference will be how the platform works. I guess this is the true test of the federated approach. What does it hinder or facilitate in practice and what are the actual effects?

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• cricket97@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Lemmy has just as many terminally online weirdos as reddit, except I’ve noticed there’s a higher concentration of extremists. In my short time here, I’ve been threatened by someone to dox me and accuse me as a pedophile, and another person wishing death upon me because I disagreed with them about policing. Definitely still some weirdos here

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  • gayhitler420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Was the pedophile accusation in the same thread in which you were claiming drag shows are too sexual for children? Was the disagreement about policing in the thread where you said rehabilitation doesn’t work and the only way to keep society safe is to lock up more people?

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    • Custoslibera@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Hahaha I knew they’d have shit takes, thanks for saving me time going to look.

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    • njinx@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Still doesn’t warrant doxxing or death threats

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    • checksout@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Does that warrant doxxing and death threats?

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    • cricket97@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      So what? None of those opinions justify the threats I got. I do think drag shows are often too sexual for children. And I do believe rehabilitation should take a backseat to keeping people on the street safe. That was the basis for which I received those threats for, and predictably people like you come and imply I deserve it.

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  • Smoogs@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    the Reddit nightmare when someone tells you to go KYS over something as innocuous as a differing opinion on games…and so you report a KYS and then the Reddit admin simply send you the suicide hotline and dust off their hands. NAILED IT.

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    • Goo_bubbs@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      But then you say something like, “Fuck Nazi scum” and suddenly you’re banned.

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  • Spliffman1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Agreed, watch out for the fuckcars guys 😂, I landed there by mistake once lol

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    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah once someone on fuckcars found a post of my car in a car sub. The idea I have a car I like, yet dislike the fact I need a car, seemed to break their brain. In true reddit fashion they were instantly in cringe debate-bro mode.

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    • Holdoooo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yeah, fuck your car. I’m riding a train rn.

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  • frezik@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I made the mistake of checking the inbox on my old Reddit account, and there was a new reply from a post I made a year ago. It was one giant paragraph with few punctuation marks and almost all lowercase. It started out with “you sound dumb”, went on to say I need to accept Christ into my heart, and that the devil was using me as a tool and would spit me out when he’s done with me.

    What was it in reply to? I said a guy cited in the article was a crank, and not a real scientist, because he believed the moon was made of plasma.

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    • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      went on to say I need to accept Christ into my heart

      I despise people who are so arrogant as to push their religion on strangers. Some of the only people I won’t treat courteously irl.

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  • mechoman444@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    That’s because all the asshats that have been banned for saying shit like that on Reddit are here now and haven’t been banned yet.

    It’s just a matter of time before the nazi mods and wokies take over.

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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wait but I like terminally online weirdos, and radicals… Maybe thos with better social skills though rofl. Anyway consider yourself doxxed and swatted and swiftied and your house is being eaten by antifascist carpenter ants.

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  • SirStumps@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I mentioned a few ways the Democrats and Republicans are similar and the “open” minded Democrats just started trying to demean me. Not one Republican btw. Blows my mind the irony of these extremists.

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    • BROMETHIUS@startrek.website ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s because republicans like it when you say they are the same lol

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  • PutangInaMo@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Yeah reddit is the mainstream and lemmy is bleeding edge.

    But imgur… those weirdos are just flatlined on crazy lol

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  • explodicle@local106.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    What did you say about policing?

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    • gayhitler420@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      hey just a heads up, they linked their post that got death wished on them in the replies, it’s in this thread about a bystander death due to police pursuit where they defend the cops actions, not their comments in some other thread arguing about rehabilitation.

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    • cricket97@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I said (in the context of violent criminals) that rehabilitation should not be the main goal but rather keeping dangerous people away from functioning members of society.

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• Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t really find it that different. Just less populated.

  Same format. Similar groups. Similar users (though mostly the sane ones, but I attribute this more to the less populated part more than anything). Similar if not the exact same content.

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  • sbv@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    less populated

    This is the part I feel.

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  • Spliffman1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    All being said I’m kinda asking to find out too cause I was there but I did close to jack shit on reddit… Somebody told me about lemmy and it seemed interesting so I jumped in 3 months ago, but my lemmy to reddit comparison is very limited, so I asked

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I posted about as much there as I do on Lemmy. For 10 years. It changed over time from when I first joined until I left with the appocolypse, but I’ve seen many forums, chat rooms and social media things do the same. It’s mostly the people that influence the content and culture, not the UI/UX the owner of the site made or changed. Generally, everything gets turned to shit once it hits enough users and the ratio of users who developed and experienced a certain culture are lower than the new users who have no frame of reference and end up shifting that culture.

      This even has a name. It’s called “Eternal September.” From when college Usenet services would be flooded with new students in September that didn’t know proper etiquette and such.

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  • Spliffman1@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I did like 3 posts in 3 years on Reddit lol, I wasn’t very involved there

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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fuck. You’re my favorite user 😰 we can’t be letting you down!

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    • Kolanaki@yiffit.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      You’re my favorite user

      Whoa. Fr?

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• BruceTwarzen@kbin.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Can't wait for the comment section to be spammed witht he same three reddit catchphrases

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  • Vej@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    “this”

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    • McBain@feddit.ch ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Here, have a poor man’s gold 🥇

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    • ShittyRedditWasBetter@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      That’s so wholesome!

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  • Shayeta@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    For your edification and posterity. This. What you just wrote. I totally agree. Like a chef serving a bowl of stew, you stuck your ladel into my brain and from my incoherent abstract thoughts were able to form the exact sentiment of what it is I was feeling. Down to a decimal of a decimal, more perfectly than I ever could have iterated, you captured the essence of every nuance I experienced relating to the subject matter. No words could portray the awe I felt knowing that somebody shared the exact same thought process as me. Not only that, but with the ability to articulate in such a refined manner the depth of said thought process. No words could describe that feeling. Except one. This.

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    • Willy@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Is there a Lemmy app that allows you to manage such beautiful pasta?

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  • YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Beat me to it

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    • jaybone@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Beat meat to it.

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  • Texas_Hangover@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    This.

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  • dylanTheDeveloper@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Big Chungus

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    • chuckleslord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      James Stephanie Sterling? You’re here?

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  • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Lmaoooo 😭

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• Nobsi@feddit.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh god am i glad. The amount of tankies is insane. Can’t wait for more middle and left leaning people to join.

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• Astroturfed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I don’t know if it’s the way they’re sorted or the voting, but the comments sections are well less mind numbingly stupid. People at least make logical arguments and have a point generally. Not a whole bunch of recycled bullshit. On Reddit I could guess with about a 75% certainty what the top comment was going to be before I even opened it.

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• eumesmo@lemmings.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  At one hand, I like lemmy for being smaller and cozier, but on the other, the possibility of reddit becoming unprofitable due to lost users is so awesome to be missed.

  COME ON REDDITORS, JOIN LEMMY AND LET REDDIT ROT!

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• solstice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Don’t worry, lemmy definitely beats Reddit in the socially maladjusted toxic asshole department.

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• explodicle@local106.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  ITT: “My problem with this platform where nobody is in charge is that it has more extremists than the platform where a for-profit corporation is in charge.”

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• archiotterpup@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Oh nice. We can finally got some non-tech, non-foss subs going.

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• BetaDoggo_@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  We don’t have the “True Story” creative writing communities.

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• SVcross@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I haven’t found furry smut here, yet.

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• Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Sorry OP but this post is contributing to it

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• JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I wish I had the resources to open and maintain instances. There’s a few topics I followed on Reddit that I haven’t really found an alternative for.

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• mvirts@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  1. The name
  2. The domain(s)
  3. The clients(kinda…)
  4. The people(hmmm…)

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• JoJoGAH@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’ve loved the thoughtful discourse on Lemmy, I’ve grown weary of seeing news about reddit in the feed. Reddit died long before this last bit, becoming a haven for a particular, ill informed, consensus seeking group.

  Then tonight, I had a reddit moment here on Lemmy where some non socialized, rude, consensus seeking user wanted to snipe and sounded like an over protected , suburban, adolescent boy.

  I haven’t seen one of those here yet and they are the absolute plague of open discourse .

  Please Lemmy, don’t let it go on.

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• mvfsullivan@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  Im still mad confused. You cant just search a random sub"lemmy" and add it, you have to add a whole ass lemmy “channel”?

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• Smokeydope@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The service may change but the people don’t. The average human just isnt terribly bright and there’s always going to be dumbass kids and loser adults with too much free time posting low effort regurgitated content. We hit that point when the nostupidquestions/advice sub’s did in fact start to be filled with stupid questions.

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• TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  as of today, lemmy users are as bad as redditors. if not worse.

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• protovack@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  lemmy is exactly the same. each community has a set of mods who can basically do whatever they want that was always the problem with reddit. express an opinion a moderator doesn’t like? you’re banned say something unpopular? your comment drops to nothing and never gets read Lemmy doesn’t solve that problem. it’s only better than reddit right now, because its new as soon as more people discover it, the exact same story will play out again enjoy it while it lasts!

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• Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  I’m staying out of this debate, but you get an upvote for the Pink Panther. That was a priceless Steinway!

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• Albin7326@suppo.fi ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The is no issues with any platform. The issue happens when, how the users behave.

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• Rooty@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  The Eternal September is impossible to dodge, unless you impose a usage fee and iron fisted moderation. People are dumb, even moreso online.

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• Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

  pLaY StUpiD GaMeS…

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