Streaming giants have banded together for lobbying power
Submitted 8 months ago by Number1SummerJam@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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mlg@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Czeron@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I just bought 16 TB to expand my media server :)
andrew@lemmy.stuart.fun 8 months ago
You must have a lot of Linux ISO backups. Doing your part to preserve open source software history.
yurgenst@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I have a feeling part of their plan is to sink all the pirate ships.
turkalino@lemmy.yachts 8 months ago
Nintendo has been putting anti-piracy protection in all of their consoles since the NES in the 80’s. Every single one was cracked eventually. Oh, but surely they must be getting better? Nope, the Switch was cracked less than a year from release.
And Nintendo controls the hardware in this situation. Streaming services do not.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
The only way to do that, is to kill humanity.
dezmd@lemmy.world 8 months ago
MooseBoys@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yo-ho, all together, hoist the colors high. Heave ho, thieves and beggars, never shall we die!
ColonelSanders@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yar har, fiddle de dee Being a pirate is alright to be Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free You are a pirate!
JPAKx4@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
It sounds terrible but I still love it
Snowpix@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
ALESTORM INTENSIFIES
Mannimarco@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Just call it what it is: bribing power
stonedemoman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
streamers are currently being forced to reckon with their profitability — or lack thereof.
Netflix’s 2023 revenue: 8.1 billion dollars BTW
ramblinguy@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
On a tangent, and nothing to do with you, but I don’t like how these streaming companies are being called “streamers”. Streamers are those people streaming on twitch, not a company like Netflix damnit.
rebul@kbin.social 8 months ago
To be clear, revenue does not equal profit.
stonedemoman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Net income doesn’t equal profitability either. Companies scale their costs based on revenue, including stock buybacks.
hightrix@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The slow march back to cable is unstoppable.
Pirate everything. Share everything.
Piracy is an access problem, not a consumer problem.
enbee@compuverse.uk 8 months ago
dismantle capitalism. I bet in like 24 years some disruptor is going to come along and buy up rights to the shit thats on peacock Hulu etc now and offer 9 bucks a month to stream it to you. rinse repeat. fuck this corpo nightmare.
ReadyUser31@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It turns out cable wasn’t some unique product or way of doing things, it’s just the natural form media delivery takes under capitalism. Streaming services are convergently evolving to take that shape too.
foggy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Get rid of them. Socialize their service. Host all content at media.gov and take costs out of taxes. We could pay artists more, have 0 ads, all for like $15 per paycheck. Those taxes would fund grants for artists and cover platform costs. No ads. No corporations.
P.S. you already pay taxes on media through various 3 letter institutions and licensing. It’s not different from what we have other than eliminating the things we all dont like.
This lobby exists to stop that from ever happening and nothing more. Fight them to the death.
limewire@lemmy.mywire.xyz 8 months ago
$15, that sounds like so much…now let me refuel my truck up and buy another beer.
obinice@lemmy.world 8 months ago
How do we socialise these globally important services? Let’s say the Americans socialised all of the services we use heavily every day here in Europe. Netflix, Amazon, Disney, etc etc.
How will that affect our access to these now internal US National Services? How will it affect our rights and ability to take those services to court - now taking the US State to court instead, when they do something bad?
How does that increase my rights as a consumer, rather than stifle them?
foggy@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Well, we would have the content we own. We would pay to lease the content we don’t. If any non US residents want a media.gov account, they can pay for one out of pocket what Americans pay in taxes.
Problem solved, not rocket science.
notannpc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If I’ve learned anything about corporate lobbying groups it’s that they only exist to fuck you and ruin any legislation that attempts to protect you from them.
Eat shit SIA.
Asafum@feddit.nl 8 months ago
Corps form “unions” and use money gained by preferential treatment by government to create propaganda shitting on unions.
Funny that.
No wait, infuriating. That’s the word.
ours@lemmy.film 8 months ago
They cry about the “free market” and then run to the Government to ask for “protection”.
DarthBueller@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wait, what? What corporations form labor unions designed to undermine labor unions? Are you calling a lobbying group a union? Are you using terminology creatively or is there something I hadn’t heard about?
Prethoryn@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Lobbying should be fucking banned.
AeonFelis@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It is far more likely that remarks against lobbying will be banned, because someone would lobby for that.
mayo@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s still a useful mechanic to be able to influence government policy in between elections. Not all lobbying is pushing for this dystopian stuff, this is just what ends up in the news.
In Canada anyone can review federal and provincial lobbying activity. Eg:
lobbycanada.gc.ca/app/secure/ocl/…/clntSmmrySrch?…
I’m guessing there is something like that for the US.
Honytawk@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Every form of corruption is a useful mechanic to be able to influence government policy between elections.
bobman@unilem.org 8 months ago
Vote in representatives that will ban it.
Guntrigger@feddit.ch 8 months ago
In theory yes, but in practice extremely rich lobbyists will buy up enough votes to not ban it. Sorry, I mean “successfully lobby against it legally”.
spiderkle@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
The streaming market is splintered to max and oversaturated by content. The bubble already burst and now people are cordcutting again or fleeing to independent content. Absolutely nobody wants ads back and all companies do is push them on users for ever more revenue. The model only worked because it wasn’t as inconvenient and full of ads as traditional paytv/cable.
So now we’ve gone full circle and back to lobbies who at some point will undoubtedly create streaming-packages that will include a certain set of partenered services. Can’t wait for the +1000€ per year -T-mobile-package-plan! Apart from Spotify who have kept their “affordable music streaming for 9.99€” promise over the last 10 years…the motion picture models have just become more expensive and user-unfriendly!
timkmz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Spotify also recently raised their proces, but tbf they kinda had to with the inflation. The depressing thing is that creators are rewarded for borting. (See slightly Sociables “the dark side of spotify” vid for indepth)
bobman@unilem.org 8 months ago
but tbf they kinda had to with the inflation.
So, they used inflation as an excuse to charge people more money for an already-profitable product?
Wow.
circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 8 months ago
“Guillotine sales soar as citizens band together for lobbying power”
One can dream
Fredselfish@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Kind of lobbying I can get behind.
prole@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
What’s the famous quote? Something about how a capitalist will sell you the rope from which you plan to hang them? Something like that?
Metatronz@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Streaming has ultimately taught me how little I ‘need’ to watch since it trains you to really only seek out a couple things per service. I’ve also become very advertisment sensitive being blessed with tools to avoid that and companies honeymooning people for a while with fewer ads compared to what cable did.
Obviously, the dipshits are springing their ‘trap’ but I’m not bullish on the strategy of forcing consumers to suddenly tolerate a return of ads everywhere and always on entertainment. I just see folks running away again/further disconnecting from traditional media.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yup. The high seas are looking more attractive every day.
ours@lemmy.film 8 months ago
And the tools to emulate the good parts of streaming with a home setup have never been better.
CosmoNova@feddit.de 8 months ago
The search for something to watch and to evaluate what streaming service I should subscribe for the next 2 months or so has become so tedious and the overall quality so low that I’m simply giving up on them as a whole. The price increase and ads weren’t even necessary to drive me away. They only ensure I will not come back.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Do what you want 'cause a pirate is free.
JustZ@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yo ho.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
Any port any storm.
Batten down the hatches! KEEP THAT POWDER DRY!
notabird@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Laws like the Kids Online Safety Act (KOSA), which features overly broad definitions of the platforms it targets and has troubling privacy implications thanks to surveillance requirements, could sweep companies like Netflix or Disney up into its dragnet.
Streaming companies are usually pro-net neutrality, and that’s been a difficult concept for lawmakers and regulators in DC to fully grasp.
For those that read just the headline. Not everything is black and white.
spudwart@spudwart.com 8 months ago
Every now and again, their interests align with the average person.
But make no mistake, the companies forming a coalition like this for one or two good causes won’t make up for the long term damage it will no doubt cause.
pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
It doesn’t matter; they’re controlling media and entertainment and that makes them always bad regardless of any extenuating circumstances.
All of those problems can be solved by breaking apart all of those corporations, putting all modern franchises in the public domain and legalizing pirating. Change the law solely for our benefit and not theirs. If they don’t make content anymore, great; we’ll shut off their shitty AIs and make shit ourselves like we were supposed to be doing the whole time.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Hello jellyfin.org, transmission, radarr and sickbeard
Caminsky@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I think this is why net neutrality is so important. Back in the days the electromagnetic spectrum was not as heavily regulated as it is now. Technically anyone with the technical know how could set up a broadcasting station. Then CBS, ABC, NBC all got together and did exactly what these companies are doing. They banded together to make it harder for the average person to get access to technology. This is their primariy goal. To give their companies priority at the network level (seconds matter) and also, most likely what they want is to 1. Find ways for their content to be regulated differently and be sold as network packages 2. Probably allow their content to be delivered through means that require people pay THEIR ISPs. Now, i will be honest. I have not read the article but i knlw this has been the intended goal for many years.
Aggravationstation@lemmy.film 8 months ago
Yea, the logical next step is sadly for the streaming services to just buy the ISPs with the amount of money they have and lobby so they can block Torrent, Usenet and VPN traffic to stop piracy. Most people will keep paying for the services whilst there’s signs of this happening because they actually believe all the “you wouldn’t steal a car, so why would you steal the 9th shitty Star Wars spin off series” propaganda. Then they’ll block porn tube sites too, for the children of course. The first one to do it will get all of the Christians on-side immediately who will accuse the others of being evil and allowing such awful filth so the others will quickly follow suit. After time passes I’m sure they’ll bring out their own almost porn type content that will prove very popular. I could be wrong, but it’ll be interesting to see how things turn out.
MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It felt inevitable at some point this was going to happen after they got caught off guard by the strikes to make sure that it never happens again, but the fight is not over yet.
It’s more important than ever then for you guys to support the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strike, fight for workers, and fight for unions.
Otherwise, they’ll just keep squeezing and squeezing, until there is nothing left.
Auli@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Can’t support the WGA strike as it’s over.
MargotRobbie@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yay
Jaysyn@kbin.social 8 months ago
That's cool, I've kicked them all to the curb over the past two years.
limewire@lemmy.mywire.xyz 8 months ago
I like the way you think. 🏴☠️
cirdanlunae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 months ago
Omg, it’s Limewire, I can’t believe it! I used you when I was a kid! Can I have your autograph!?
yoz@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Checkout streamio
TGQP@feddit.de 8 months ago
Imagine missing the point so completely. Streaming, what a joke now.
dinckelman@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It’s almost never a pricing issue, but a service issue. They can band together in their bullshit campaign all they want. They’re still not getting my money, because I’m not paying 15 a month, to watch one movie with 7 ads, after which they’ll also sell my data
skybreaker@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Netflix and others look for power in number$.
Welcome to the United $tate$ of America, people; Where money is the only thing that matters
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s called a cartel
psyc@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Incoming attempts to legislate recordless VPN bans and over the top piracy mitigation strategies instead of attempting to provide better services to their users
eran_morad@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum
protovack@lemmy.world 8 months ago
they have to since they can’t make any money in the free market, because their products are total shit
return2ozma@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The new group is led by two former policymakers acting as senior advisers: former Republican Rep. Fred Upton and former Democratic Federal Communications Commission (FCC) acting chair Mignon Clyburn.
Source: axios.com/…/streamers-launch-first-official-trade…
Mignon Clyburn is Jim Clyburn’s daughter. SMH
Babalugats@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This can only be a bad thing.
They will win and like live nation, will merge with more well placed companies until they are printing their own money.
sadreality@kbin.social 8 months ago
You don't need a union, we are all family here.jpeg
coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 8 months ago
With our powers combined we are CAPTAIN (old) CABLE!!!
daredevil@kbin.social 8 months ago
This does not spark joy.
Powerpoint@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
These fucks never did learn
pjhenry1216@kbin.social 8 months ago
Corporations: hey guys, let's unionize so the government doesn't exploit us.
Employees: hey, can we als...
Corporations: NO.
Nobody@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Collective action for we, not for thee.
Cheers@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Can’t wait for this bullshit to get denied because writers/actors are already striking.
RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Well it’s not employees want the corporations to have unionized, but they just have less power to do anything about it
pjhenry1216@kbin.social 8 months ago
I didn't say the employees wanted corporations to unionize or not. The joke was corporations interrupting employees asking if they can also unionize.