No one prays harder than a scientist waiting for a peer review.
send thoughts and peer review
Submitted 2 months ago by NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org to science_memes@mander.xyz
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aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 2 months ago
dingus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I have a crack in my windshield and I feel this energy right now
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club 2 months ago
It figures a religious nut would think it’s called a “car engine” light and not a “check engine” light.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Please God, I just ask that reviewer number 2 comes to their fucking senses for 17 minutes to approve my paper.
ceenote@lemmy.world 2 months ago
You’re missing part of the appeal. In the right column, there’s a huge pile of money going toward the design and production of that arm. In the left column, there’s a huge pile of money going to a faith healer’s private jet.
lelgenio@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 2 months ago
Glowing handjob hand unlocked
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 months ago
can we stop with this early 2010s debate?
it’s bullshit all the way. Science is also used to create weapons and record numbers of amputees, and religion is still used as propaganda to justify those wars. And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…
Science and technology advancement by itself is dangerous if society doesn’t advance as well. regardless of the specific religion or lack thereof.
tgcoldrockn@lemmy.world 2 months ago
science vs religion debate has been around at least since the 1980s.
/s
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today 2 months ago
1982 to be exact, when Thomas Dolby was blinded with science much like Saul was once blinded by Jesus on the road to Damascus. It’s poetry in motion.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 months ago
that debate probably existed much earlier. wouldn’t surprise me if some shaman’s were upset at those high tech craftmen with copper tools and those craftmen though the chaman was crazy…
jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Another way this discussion is bullshit and leads nowhere is that religion can also explain everything science does. Oh the kid got a prosthetic arm? Yes, because put engineers in his path, it was all part of His plan. Kid losing the arm was also part of the plan BTW.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 months ago
religion in itself isn’t a bad thing, fervant fanaticism is the dangerous part.
The atheist movement left a vacuum taken over by manosphere, and other toxic BS. How many cases are of scientific fanatics doing crimes against humanity for curiosity? unit 731? Mengele?
Draconic_NEO@mander.xyz 2 months ago
And even with prosthetic limbs, access might be limited based on profitability.
Let’s also not ignore the fact that many modern prosthetics just kind of suck in general. They’re getting better but they still aren’t great.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 months ago
not sure how that field is going, but I’m still upset that a company managed to make working prosthetic eyes, gave blind people some sigh, went out of business, and suddenly all their clients went blind again. They wouldn’t make the code upen source because it was their intellectual property.
they didn’t get into the “bring sigh to the blind” business to help people, just for the business part.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
the main difference is community support, class issues, capitalism…
Guess we will rather see religion fade into oblivion, before we would see capitalism - with its inherent class issues - even show a surface crack… Sadly so I’m inclined to add.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 2 months ago
religion is only allowed to exist if it benefits capitalism. at least the organized toxic ones
callyral@pawb.social 2 months ago
Side topic: I think Pascal’s Wager is stupid because what if there is a god and it only sends believers to hell? What if there is a good and it sends everyone to hell no matter what? What if there is a god and it didn’t make an afterlife and won’t interfere in actual life, so why even bother? What if there’s a flying spaghetti monster out there and that’s what god is?
/rant
JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
That’s why it’s pascal’s mugging. You’re getting screwed for something that, statistically speaking, is a shot in the dark.
YaGirlAutumn@leminal.space 2 months ago
CannonFodder@lemmy.world 2 months ago
What if there’s a good? No, no chance of that, I’m afraid.
Dayroom7485@lemmy.world 2 months ago
So here’s the thing about today’s prosthetics: they kinda suck. For example this 2022 study reports that 44% of amputees rejected their prosthetic:
Most responders complained about the comfort (60.87%, n = 14) as well as the weight of the device (52.17%, n = 12).
What apparently goes a long way is accepting the missing limb and living with it. And I guess religion does help with that.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Of course, it’s all primitive dogshit, basically early 20th century sticks with fancier motors. Big deal.
We need to figure out how to regrow limbs. A stupid salamander can do it.
cynar@lemmy.world 2 months ago
There’s some evidence that mammals never lost the ability. Unfortunately, our scarring response is massively faster and locks wounds down.
A few years back, they engineered mice to lack a gene, to find out what it did. Initially, someone got in trouble for not properly marking the modified mice (via holes in their ears). They later discovered the holes healed completely, including regenerating fur etc.
Unfortunately, it also makes recovery from larger wounds difficult, since without a scarring response they don’t close quickly.
Jack@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I’ve twice asked Christians to pray in Jesus’ name asking for the immediate and permanent end to torture, rape, murder, and war. They prayed, and when I next met them they were still Christians despite none of those things ending.
I think religious people are dishonest and/or unable to differentiate between reality and fairytales.
Matthew 7:7-11
7 Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; he who seeks finds; and to him who knocks, the door will be opened. 9 Which of you, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? 10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? 11 So if you who are evil know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!wewbull@feddit.uk 2 months ago
Playing devil’s advocate: science hasn’t cracked any of those yet either.
Zacryon@feddit.org 2 months ago
It has helped to improve on those issues though.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Solving those problems is not part of science’s purview.
Jack@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
True, and the scientific method and results have made wars more intensely deadly; but science doesn’t claim if you say some magic words you can have absolutely anything you want. The scientific method is by far the best way we’ve found that lets us figure out what is real and what is nonsense - no other method comes anywhere close to it.
Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
People who are religious in the end have faith because they are selfish. They will perpetuate a religious belief that overall creates a worse world for everyone living (wars, enforced ideology, etc) in the hopes that they can have an afterlife of bliss and excess.
Cattail@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I guess the monkey palm only applied to current end of torture, rape, murder, and war and not future instances, but I could imagine Iraq war still being ongoing, or if it happened at the beginning of the Russian war that’s clearly ongoing
Cattail@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Religion: “thanks to our prayers we made it possible for science to create a prosthetic limb”
Formfiller@lemmy.world 2 months ago
To be fair religion is probably how he got his arm blown off in the first place
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 months ago
…with a bit of technology just for spice.
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com 2 months ago
I look at it this way in terms of spirituallity… (Aka psychopath minded religion excluded.)
Kids has 1 arm.
Community that doesn’t have the means or knowledge for science helps promote hope and faith that’s keeps the kid going.
Science does it’s thing, as it always has and creates an arm.
Kid is able to get the new arm because the community and faith helped keep his spirits up so he didn’t suicide out of hopelessness.
…The real enemy is the marketing and psychological manipulation tainting everything. It’s not just religions. It’s rapes everything for all that it can benefit from.
Photonic@lemmy.world 2 months ago
All major religions have people doing stuff that is to the benefit of the higher-ups in the religion and is to the disadvantage to the common believer.
But you’re right, it also happens outside of religion, like with capitalism and billionaires vs the working class.
Religion is just a means to keep the plebs from revolting.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Is all the charity that Christianity alone has done also to the disadvantage to the common believer?
HalfSalesman@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Why not foster hope through science? Religion is unneeded for that.
Plus, if the situation was hopeless scientifically, the kid would be better off accepting reality than to endlessly hope for something that will never come. Just build with what he can instead of daydreaming about what can’t be.
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Religion: thoughts and prayers Science: thoughts and peers
SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Thoughts and pears
NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 2 months ago
Ok got it.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Don’t worry, the religious people will find a way to make this about themselves and/or their religion!
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Not mutually exclusive though I can understand how the West’s experience has led them to that conclusion.
Though there are many scientists in the West that are religious.
One has to understand that the purpose of prayer and community isn’t necessarily to improve material circumstances.
imacatnotaman@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Here in the states, you can now add a 4th panel. first one shows a casket, second one shows a vaccinated kid
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Meh. It’s not like religious people aren’t also doing science. Like most of my labmates are slightly religious.
YoiksAndAway@piefed.zip 2 months ago
It’s amazing the degree to which they can compartmentalize. When I was doing my post-doc there was a tech in the lab who was a young-Earth creationist. In a microbiology lab. Where we made mutants strains by using selective pressure. He was a good tech and a good guy, but WTAF?
BurnedDonutHole@ani.social 2 months ago
These religious people didn’t believe enough, they are lacking faith. I now pastor, imam, rabbi whatever its name can make that child grow that arm in no time. All they need to do is give up their earthly possessions and become faithful followers.
AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Okay just hear me out, i know people who didnt commit suicide basically just because they could hang onto a few things, including religion. I think organized religion is horrible just as much as the next guy but there is some merit in religion for people who need a mental crutch.
Barrymore@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
There’s so many other things than religion that would work in that situation that are helpful instead of detrimental
FishFace@piefed.social 2 months ago
Reddit called, /r/atheism wants you back
yermaw@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Thank God for creating scientists. Checkmate atheists.
NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 2 months ago
The negotiator!
AffineConnection@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Faith healing works. I know because it cured me of my decapitation after I was cremated and my remains were fed to a giant lizard.
Jakylla@jlai.lu [bot] 2 months ago
Religion:
If have only 1 hand, to be happy, just have to join them both
orioler25@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Well, I’m sure scientists have never overlooked the impact of social conditions before as they are obviously irrelevant to how the natural world works.
El_guapazo@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Engywuck@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
Amazing.
ji59@hilariouschaos.com 2 months ago
But what about his soul
expatriado@lemmy.world 2 months ago
no science --> no engineering --> ni Kia
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Religion just doesn’t work as well if you don’t have a priest to molest the kid, this experiment ignores that and is therefore ipso facto dumbo, point blank period end of story nuff said
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Thought the second religion image was suppose to be an Epstein joke
electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
People will swear by prayer for any ki d of illness. According to them, God can cure anything with enough faith. Ask them if god has ever regrown a limb.
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
If prayer works, why are there hospitals? Or guns?
BillyClark@piefed.social 2 months ago
Religious people aren’t bothered or surprised at all when their prayers don’t come true. On the other hand, if their cell phone or car or air conditioner suddenly stops working without warning, they’re absolutely shocked and dismayed.
My point is that even the most religious people actually believe in science far more than they believe in their religion. They’re just too stupid to realize it.
socsa@piefed.social 2 months ago
There’s a reason why “virtue signalling” was a term originally coined to describe faith behaviors.