In the US it is becoming common for federal services to require ID.me verification. I’ve never really had a problem with social security requiring ID verification. I do have a problem with data portals requiring it.
I'm struggling to think of any online services for which I'd be willing to verify my identity or age
Submitted 1 hour ago by Beep@lemmus.org to technology@lemmy.world
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thesmokingman@programming.dev 11 minutes ago
CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 minutes ago
The problem with “age” verification is that politicians are confusing it with identity verification.
I should not have to prove my name and other biometrics to prove age.
Age verification is the fascist way to get people to identify themselves and their online activity. Almost every state that has some sort of age verification law has zero method to actually verify age. No digital ID service, no way to share a credential for verification.
They want people to upload an ID.
This isn’t about keeping children safe and it never is. It’s about identifying critics of the government.
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
I am actually not fundamentally against the idea of age verification for some things online. We have many things with age restrictions in real life, for various reasons, it kind of makes sense to have it online as well for some things.
but…it has to be done with zero-knowledge proof so we limit the amount of private data exposed to the absolute bare minimum.
Deestan@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Zero-knowledge proofs are a good concept. They’ve been possible for a long, long time, and allow age check without surveillance.
So why are they not being used? Because age check is just a cover. These people want to do surveillance, not protect kids.
So it’s a good counter. Want age check? Do it like this. Oh, you don’t want it that way? Why not, pray?
Whether it works (it has, previously) or not (as with the current bullshit from the US), it does bring to the public debate that this is unnecessary surveillance.
atropa@piefed.social 18 minutes ago
How old are you ? If i may ask.
Wammityblam@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Maybe in alternate timeline where tech companies have historically acted ethically.
In this timeline where each new company and/or ceo is less ethical than the last, I know that any type of identification will be mismanaged at best or used maliciously at worst
breezeblock@lemmy.ca 45 minutes ago
Or — just make it easier for parents to install filters for their kids??
MareOfNights@discuss.tchncs.de 1 hour ago
I also want zero knowledge personhood/Nationality verification for social media. Maybe with age too. I want to know where the accounts come from and whether they are a bot or not.
It can be optional, as long as I get a filter to remove all non-verified people.
WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Best our corporate dictatorships can offer is requiring you to surgically implant a microchip into your brainstem. Everyone without the chip will be classified as woke, and cleansed by the AI killbots on judgement day.
All heil skkkynet.
username_1@programming.dev 1 hour ago
Your point of view: We have so many fascists in reality, why couldn’t we tolerate some fascism on the internet?
ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 hour ago
Do you also think age restrictions in real life is fascism?
NominatedNemesis@reddthat.com 1 hour ago
Banking and other finance related services are the only place where I don’t mind KYC. Others I drop as soon as they request it and I seek alternatives.
But I will drop my online bank as well as soon google enforce the ‘only verified developer applications’. 90% of my applications, incuding system applications like laucher, are not installed from the play store. I plan to switch to a linux ‘phone’ and only use services which are usable from a browser / without google securnet.
Cherry@piefed.social 1 hour ago
The thing is usually for the bank account you have gone through rigourous checks already to open or maintain and account to prove your age. So face verification via an app is redundant.
We know it’s bull anyway but it’s at least a valid reason for no.
I’m the same as you. I’ll switch to browser and TBh if they piss me off enough I’ll start using cash
Buffalox@lemmy.world 38 minutes ago
Banking?
flandish@lemmy.world 26 minutes ago
you open the acct with id. no need for the app to verify age.
0x0@lemmy.zip 1 hour ago
It’s just a new “Think of the children”, only worse than going after backdoors in cryptography.
Now it’s “OS-level” identity checks, which means TPM+secure boot hardware lockout.Iconoclast@feddit.uk 1 hour ago
I have no issue with an online service knowing my age for as long as that’s all they know and will ever know about me.
whaleross@lemmy.world 54 minutes ago
As a Texan oil baroness I feel confident with myself being known to the algorithm and it tracking my habits of dropping snakes into police stations, as is our tradition as reminder to not be treaded upon.
stoy@lemmy.zip 1 minute ago
The issue is that any software is a blackbox when running.
There is no way for a user to know what code is running let alone verifying that a specific code is actually running on a device, combine that with a sector that keeps wanting more data.