They are armed. You should be too. And wear protective gear. They’ve permanently blinded people on purpose. They’ve already executed people in the street. Notice they aren’t near anyplace where bpp is active.
This whistle fights fascists | How thousands of 3D-printed whistles are derailing ICE.
Submitted 2 weeks ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to technology@lemmy.world
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knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
a whistle won’t stop these goons from harming you.
No it will not, but it will alert everyone around you to ICEs presence so they can have an opportunity to be somewhat prepared.
You’ll at least give your neighbours a chance to put some pants on, hide, barricade, or even arm themselves; before ICE tries to kick in their door.
It also calls others to your aid; quickly forming mob that out numbers ICE, forcing them to focus on crowd control instead of targeted kidnapping.
ReluctantMuskrat@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
And when lots of people are around, you have lots of cameras. Imagine how different things would be if we didn’t have video from Minnesota.
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Intentional deescalation does more right now than having the people closest to ICE or Border Patrol agents carrying weapons.
The standard for now is that responders with guns stay back to deter massacres.
knobbysideup@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
You both make good points, but prevention is better than de-escalation or alerting. Being known as protected is ala preventative measure.
Of course alarms/monitoring and response (de-escalation) are very important. But stopping it before it starts should get attention as well.
Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Not everyone can afford big guns and heavy armor; nor have the training/licensing required to cary/display them.
3D printed whistles are a cheap and easy aid. Every bit of resistance helps.
aBundleOfFerrets@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
What is bpp?
chaogomu@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ll assume it’s the Black Panther Party.
thr0w4w4y2@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
black panthers
zensanto@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
If you really want to fight back, learn from the Mexican cartels and Islamic insurgencies.
We have data on what works.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
Ironic. If you want to reduce crime, invite the Black Panthers to keep the ICE Apes away.
Mic_Check_One_Two@reddthat.com 2 weeks ago
I mean, the Black Panthers started because people realized that peaceful unarmed protests would be violently busted, but peaceful heavily armed protests were politely watched from across the street.
vladmech@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Really cool article and movement, thanks for sharing it. I’ve been printing whistles and leaving them in my little free library but had no idea there was this nation wide movement going on.
Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Has anyone heard of “3D GUN’T” software that’s apparently being put into new 3d printers? It can apparently block prints based off the shape or whatever to prevent the printing of gun parts, and keeps tabs on who printed exactly what. It’s basically DRM for 3d printers. Also laws in certain states demanding printers be legally required to start blocking gun parts. It may be the beginning of something worse as it adds the infrastructure needed to further block “bad shapes” down the road.
3dprint.com/…/daring-am-software-advances-aim-to-… printandgo.tech/…/3d-gunt-solution-to-prevent-3d-…
abs_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 weeks ago
Good luck adding drm to a microwave to prevent it from microwaving “fish and fish adjacent shapes”. 3d printers consist of a couple of motors and a hot bit. No computer in there, unless you go for the high end stuff and even then they can’t run that sort of software. MCUs are clocked in MHz, but even a 10 year old computer is clocked in GHz. Even with a cloud connections, how much money have companies poured into “AI” only to have it still get things wrong? Do lawmakers expect a podunk garage team to figure out what Google, Meta, Apple, and literal billions of R&D haven’t?
Since this is effectively a ban, it would result in “healthcare CEO shot by wooden ghost gun” if gun kits are still sold, because 3d printers don’t print guns. They print the “lower” that has the serial number, which is legally, but not practically, defined to be the “gun”. Any gun that doesn’t have a serial is a ghost gun, but the point is moot.
More realistically, it would result in: “healthcare CEO shot by a 2026 special edition 9mm VEHHFU746582 on sale for 1984$, get it before it is banned” because for some reason the legislature is running on rich people feelings, and this shooting is special because of the gun, and not because of EVERYTHING ELSE.
Not super into guns but I’m a bit frustrated with the technical ineptitude of some of these lawmakers. Gun control existed before 3d printers did, this is just half assed. Feel free to correct me if I missed something.
markovs_gun@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
If nothing else I feel like more people would be killed with Shinzo Abe guns and similar hardware store contraptions
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
What happened is that the skill requied to manufacture a lower receiver out of metal dropped quite sharply, enabling a large number of people to make weapons without serial numbers
bilb@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
You’re right, 3D printers and filaments simply need to be made illegal to own and use without a license, like a still. People should be buying from corporations anyway, not designing and printing things at home. Who do we think we are?
jim3692@discuss.online 2 weeks ago
If I understand correctly, this affects 3d printers the can read STL. What if someone, hypothetically, uses an open source slicer, like Orca, and print from gcode?
zensanto@ttrpg.network 2 weeks ago
Wow! No sovereign citizen is advocating for this!
ramenshaman@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
IIRC that’s only potentially going to be a law in Washington state (for now). It’s not really enforceable. It’s a law made by people who don’t know what they’re talking about. My printers and my slicers are blocked from communicating outside my local network. Once shape-blocking firmware gets pushed people will just revert back to the previous firmware version.
rob_t_firefly@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Whatever people in power try to stir up about this, it’s literally impossible to legislate and block shapes from being 3D-printed. Any attempts to do so are a fool’s errand, and/or just being used to justify misguided attempts to lock down 3DP technology for other reasons (read DRM/copyright forces in big business.) Blocking parts that might be for a gun from being printed simply cannot be done.
ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 2 weeks ago
Yeah, these laws are incredibly invasive, and potentially crippling to smaller manufacturing operations.
nulluser@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
“Yeah? And your point is?”. ~ Billionaires
BenderRodriguez@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
SpruceBringsteen@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
wooo woooo
My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just for decoration
LOLseas@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
“Dats only in the mornaing. You suhposta be up, cooking breakfast by then, so- that’s like an alarm clock! WooWOOOOOOO!”
Wonder what Bubb Rubb and Lil Sis are up to in 2026.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
still putting whistle tips on for the people
jaschen306@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Oh wow, 13 years ago. www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUXow3d3-b0
bekopharm@discuss.tchncs.de 2 weeks ago
Curious, was that law changed eventually?
stringere@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
Bub Rubb!
I can hear him sayimg woooowooooo
AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Thanks for sharing this. This bolstered my spirit.
I liked the bit where it discusses how, regardless of the effectiveness of whistles in deterring ICE, they have proven to be helpful in regular people feeling less alone.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
We always have to remember: There are a LOT more of us than them. These whistles help us remember that.
Damage@feddit.it 2 weeks ago
lol, 3d printing enthusiasts try to solve everything with 3d printing.
source: I have 3 3d printers
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Printing isn’t enough, but it’s a piece of what needs to happen.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
i mean, if we’re printing whistles why ain’t we printing death whistles
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
They take forever to print and use a lot of filament.
They’re printing liberty ships, not cruise ships.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
these are good points
Kissaki@feddit.org 2 weeks ago
I think they’d be great for distraction and irritation, but at the same time, they’re not as god for signaling and alarming, and, I would imagine, would desensitize us to human screams.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Downvoting for paywalled article with no summary provided
solrize@lemmy.ml 2 weeks ago
Article isn’t paywalled for me. Headline is ok. 3d printing a whistle supposedly costs under 5 cents. OTOH, that type of plastic might be less safe to put in your mouth.
frongt@lemmy.zip 2 weeks ago
It’s not going to be significantly unsafe. It’ll shed more microplastics and is more likely to grow mold due to the surface texture, but if you’re inhaling through the whistle you’re using it very wrong.
klymilark@herbicide.fallcounty.omg.lol 2 weeks ago
The biggest concern with these come from the fact that it’s hard to decontaminate 3d printed stuff due to the texture, as far as I can tell? PLA, and PETG are food safe, but 3d printing does leave a texture that’s hard to fully clean, which can cause problems over time.
For microplastics: You’re getting a lot from a lot of sources, and as with anything it’s an “Is the risk worth the benefit” situation
sepi@piefed.social 2 weeks ago
Polylactic Acid (aka PLA) is a protein found in milk and corn. PLA is made from fermented corn starch.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
If you would rather invest in a quality whistle for the one that goes in your own mouth, I recommend an ACME Thunderer.
As used by gym teachers and drum majors, (not Wile E. Coyote) they have a satisfying roll of authority.
vladmech@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
That’s weird, it shows up as a gifted article for me
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Its a gift link. Unless you’re doing something fairly uncommon, like removing the gift token, access is free. You can also use one of the various archive sites
obinice@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Haha, funny you should say that, I’ve been linking this to people but taking the tracking portion out of the URL as I always do, I think that’s pretty common amongst us lot :-D
I’d say oopsie, but I dunno, articles like these should probably be free without needing special URL parameters. Not everything of course, but vital public safety announcements like this.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
…that’s not what happened when I clicked it. I guess you have to have your anti-tracking disabled?
Sp00kyB00k@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I also love the part when people are glittering ICE. Whistling and Glitter those bastards.
MedicPigBabySaver@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Ty. Keep it up!
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Why 3D print them? Isn’t that more ecologically wasteful than just getting any of the mass-produced ones? They aren’t exactly hard to come by. Fuck your wasteful printing.
silverneedle@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
This is incorrect, the author says that he prints whistles for 5c a pop, which is cheaper than dropshipping from China. This also implies that 3D printing whistles at home in that fashion is more productive when one doesn’t live in China (or next to a whistle factory).
lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
cheaper = ecologically friendlier? NOPE
bbuez@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
How do you get the cheap shit here again?
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Not saying anyone’s doing this for whistles in particular, but you can make PET filament from salvaged bottles. And VHS tape, but I really doubt anyone is going to be able to print something that needs to be as precise as a whistle from VHS tape. From what I’ve seen it comes out… lumpy.
vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Why not buy a regular whistle?
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Its hard to import them in quantities of a few hundred thousand, and cheaper to print them than to buy in quantities of a hundred
vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
I see…
CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 weeks ago
- Customizability (hotline numbers, etc)
- Independence from billionaire-owned supply chains
- Encourages and strengthens local support networks
vin@lemmynsfw.com 2 weeks ago
Hm, fair enough
Rhoeri@piefed.world 2 weeks ago
I’ll believe it when I see it
UltraBlack@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Just start using lrads
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
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Been printing them, just need some good locations to place my boxes
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 weeks ago
Anywhere in public is great. If you’re in a place where ICE is less active, you’ll want to package the whistles with instructions to alert the local rapid response hotline.
dhork@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
I’ve seen whistles with the number for the local rapid response hotline printed right on them. Must have been one of those fancy multi-filament printers.
kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 weeks ago
Which STL do you prefer?
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 2 weeks ago
This is the one I used, it’s quickish and prints well at 18 at a time. Figured it would be comfortable to hold.
www.printables.com/model/1493196-nice-whistle-1
happydoors@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
A lot of small coffee shops will allow them in their bulletin board area