The TV industry finally concedes that the future may not be in 8K

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• ComradePenguin@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

  The only real innovation after 1080p for TV was HDR, sound stuff, 60-120hz, and upscaling to 4k.

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• Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Fuck.

  Now instead of each new generation of TVs being slightly higher in resolution some god damn business tech executive is going to focus on some god damn bullshit to try and change or add which is going be absolutely fucking ridiculous or pointless and annoying like AI television shit or TV gaming or fuck my life. Smart TVs are bad enough but they can’t help themselves they need to change or add shit all the fucking time to “INNOVATE!!!” and show stockholder value.

  Resolution was something easy and time consuming but we can’t rely on that keeping them from fucking TV up any more.

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• qevlarr@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Real innovation: Image

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  • DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What about Dairy Queen?

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• FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s about time the technology industry as a whole realises that innovation for the sake of innovation is rarely a good thing

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  • DScratch@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Look, we can’t have TVs that last 15 years anymore!

    We need to keep people buying every year or two. Otherwise line not go up! Don’t you understand that this is about protecting The Economy?!

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    • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Boomers economic policy is like if Issac Newton saw an apple falling from a tree, and came to the conclusion it would always accelerate at the same speed no matter what, even though the ground with the entire ass planet behind it is right fucking there.

      Numbers can not constantly go up, it’s just that’s what was happening their whole lives and they can’t accept that their childhoods was a blip and not how things always were and always will be.

      They just can’t wrap their heads around it. They have such shit tier empathy they can’t comprehend that they’re an exception.

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It’s not even innovation, per say. It’s just Big Number Go Up.

    Nobody seems to want to make a TV that makes watching TV more pleasant. They just want to turn these things into giant bespoke advertising billboards in your living room.

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    • redditmademedoit@piefed.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The galaxy brain move is buying an old dumb tv for a pittance and use it for watching Jellyfin/Plex/stream from a browser with uBlock Origin/DNS filtering – all running on some relative’s “obsolete” smart toaster from last year that they happily gift you because “the new version’s bagel mode IS LIT – pun intended – but it needs the 128 gb DDR7 ram of the new model, can barely toast on the old one any more”.

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    • Evilschnuff@feddit.org ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I think this just comes down to human nature. Give people (engineers, execs) a metric that looks like a good proxy for performance and they will overcommit on that metric as it is a safer bet than thinking outside the box. I think the incremental improvements in deep learning with all those benchmarks are a similar situation.

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    • chocrates@piefed.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You can’t really find a dumb TV anymore. I might see how big of a monkey I can find when I’m ready to upgrade, but I doubt I’ll find one big enough and cheap enough.

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  • panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    FireWire got killed too soon. 

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    • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Too right, brother

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    • atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wha?

      AFAIK FireWire is part of the Thunderbolt protocol, you can get FireWire 800 to Thunderbolt adapters. Apple even used to sell one.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      it was way too ahead of its time.

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  • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    We traded 3D tv’s, which are amazing if you watch the right stuff, for 8k…

    8k is great, but we need media in 8k to go with it.

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• AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I want a dumb tv with the price and and specs of a smart tv. Less is more

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  • avg@lemmy.zip ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    You would likely have to pay more since they aren’t getting to sell your information.

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    • Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      *you would have to pay more because major companies know they can charge more. There isn’t a limited amount of profit a company wants to mae, and then they pick a price from that, they price it as high as the market will bear.

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What you’re looking for are commercial screens. They’re a bit more expensive for a comparable panel, as they are intended for 24/7 use- but are about as dumb as they get nowadays.

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  • pastermil@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I second this.

    The TV industry can crash and burn otherwise.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨24⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Realistically, not only do I not want an 8k tv, but I might not get a tv at all, if I had to do it today. We rarely watch tv anymore. The brainrot is the same but we’re much more likely to use individual screens

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• panda_abyss@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  There’s no 8k content, and only recently do standard connectors support 8k at high refresh rates. 

  There’s barely any actual 4K content you can consume. 

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  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s barely any actual 4K content you can consume.

    Honestly a little surprised the IMAX guys didn’t start churning out 4k+ content given that they’ve been in the business forever.

    But I guess “IMAX in your living room” isn’t as sexy when the screen is 60" rather than 60’

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    • jqubed@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You don’t even need IMAX for 4K; ordinary 35mm film can normal scan to a nice 4K video. Films shot on the 65mm IMAX cameras would probably make good 8K content, but most of that was educational films, not what most people apparently want to watch all the time.

      The digital IMAX projections were actually a step backwards in resolution.

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    • queermunist@lemmy.ml ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      They don’t want IMAX in your living room, they want IMAX in the IMAX theater, where you pay a premium for their service.

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    • worhui@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      IMAX is 4K or less content. Its edge is special projection that can look good and brighter on huge screens.

      Only imax film prints are significantly better than anything else

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  • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s barely any actual 4K content you can consume

    I feel like that’s not true. But you’ve gotta try. If you’re streaming it, chances are it’s not really any better. 4K Bluray (or reps of them…) though? Yeah it’s good. And since film actually has 8K+ resolution old movies can be rescanned into high resolution if the original film exists.

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    • kogasa@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You’re probably aware of this since you mentioned bitrate, but a lot of 4K streaming services use bitrates that are too low to capture much more detail at 4K compared to a lower resolution. A lot of games will recommend/effectively require upscaling (DLSS/FSR/XeSS) to achieve good performance at 4K. All of this is still maybe better than 1440p, but it shows 4K is still kind of hard to support

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    • CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Not true on paper but true in practice. Most people don’t buy/use Blurays (or any other physical media) anymore to the point that retailers aren’t even bothering to stock them on the shelves these days. Their days are certainly numbered and then all we’ll be left with is low quality 4k streaming.

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  • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    People really need to understand a lot of what “smart” TVs do is upscale the “4k” signal to something actually resembling real 4k.

    Like how some 4k torrents are 3GB, and then a 1080p of the same movie is 20gb.

    It’s “worse” resolution, but it looks miles better because it’s upscaling real 1080 to 4k instead of taking existing shitty 4k and trying to make it look better without just juicing the resolution.

    So we don’t need 8k.content for 8k.tvs to be an incentive. We need real 4k media, then 8ks TV would show a real improvement.

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    • Chronographs@lemmy.zip ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah, you’re talking about bitrate. A lot of the 4k content is encoded using more efficient codecs, but if it’s sourced from the streaming services the bitrate is so abysmal it’s usually a tossup between the 1080p or 4k stream. At least the 4k usually has hdr these days which is appreciable.

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    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yeah. A 1080p Bluray clocks in around 20GB. A 4K bluray is 60-80GB.

      If you’re downloading something smaller it’s probably lower quality

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  • Asmodeus_Krang@infosec.pub ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve got a nice 4k mini LED tv with a 4k Blu-ray player and there’s plenty of excellent 4k content but it’s a niche market because most people aren’t using physical media for movies. 4k streaming is garbage compared to UHD Blu-ray.

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    • khannie@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Preach. I got gifted a 4k bluray player and was absolutely blown away by how good it looks compared to streaming.

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    • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Which makes sense because even 1080p streaming is garbage compared to blu-ray.

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  • mlg@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    There’s barely any actual 4K content you can consume.

    Ironically there actually is if you bother pirating content because that’s the only crowd that will share full 4k Dolby Vision + Dolby Atmos/DTS-X BluRay rips.

    Aside from that though, even 4k gaming is a struggle because GPU vendors went into the deep end of frame generation, which also coincidentally is the same mistake lots of TV OEMs already made.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Gaming was supposed to be one of the best drivers for 8K adoption.

  Whu? Where 4k still struggles with GPU power? And for next to no benefit?

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  • AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world ⁨39⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    8k would be cool to display lots of windows at the same time but fairly useless for gaming.

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  • olympicyes@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    What’s dumb is that 3D failed because of lack of resolution and brightness, and now we have more pixels than we can handle and screens so bright they can hurt to look at. PS3 had a couple games that showed different screens to two players wearing 3D glasses. I’d love to see full screen couch coop games with modern tech. 8K isn’t solving any problems.

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    • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      3D failed for the exact same reason VR is failing now. Nobody wants to wear headsets at home.

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    • raldone01@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Screen dimming is technically possible over HDMI no idea why its not properly supported and integrated into graphics drivers, windows and Linux. KDE shows dimming for monitors sometimes? Don’t know of that is software or real hardware dimming though.

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  • LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Introducing the new DLSS 9, were we upscale 720p to 8k. Looks better than native, pretty pinky promise.

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  • addie@feddit.uk ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I dunno. Oxygen Not Included looks crisp on a 4K monitor. And it makes my job easier, being able to have an absolute tonne of code on-screen and readable. I reckon I could probably use an 8K monitor for those things.

    Yeah, I generally have FSR running on any 3D game made in about the last decade - even if I can run it at 4K at a reasonable framerate, my computer fans start to sound like a hoover and the whole room starts warming up. But upscaling seems a better solution than having separate monitors for work and play.

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  • sbbq@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, can’t run it, Internet too slow to steam it

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    FR. What distance and size do I need to be able yo actually see the difference between 1080p and 4K? Cuz my current setup does not allow me to notice anything but the massive reduction in performance.

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    • calcopiritus@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      4k is noticeable in a standard pc.

      I recently bought a 1440p screen (for productivity, not gaming) and I can fit so much more UI with the same visual fidelity compared to 1080p. Of course, the screen needs to be physically bigger in order for the text to be the same size.

      So if 1080p->1440p is noticeable, 1080p->4k must be too.

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    • kogasa@programming.dev ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s very noticeable at the DPI of a 27" screen from arms’ length. Or maybe not if you can’t see very well. But on a TV from 10 feet away, I dunno if I could differentiate 1440p from 4K personally.

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    • olympicyes@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s about 60”. That’s the point where we noticed pixels at 1080P. HDR is more important.

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    • toofpic@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m using a 60 inch tv as a monitor to my desktop - I sit in front of it at a distance of about 2m. It feels really nice to have stuff in 4k, so it’s always 4k except the games that are too tough for my 2060 super to give me 60p.

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    • kameecoding@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      For PC you can actually see the benefit between 4K and lower resolutions.

      It’s for TV where it’s likely useless to have 8K

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  • Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Pretty sure my GPU could run 4k Rimworld, just play good games instead of AAA games.

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• Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Theres a ton of other things I want my TV to do before more pixels.

  Actual functional software would be nice, better tracking on high speed shots (in particular sweeping landscapes or reticles in video games) higher frame rates and variable frame rate content, make the actual using of the tv, things like changing inputs or channels faster, oh man so much more.

  Anything but more pixels.

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  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Actual functional software would be nice

    you do not want software on your TV.

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    • uniquethrowagay@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Yes I do. I want an actual smart TV with a practical, open source, TV-optimitzed Linux OS. It’s not that software on a TV is a bad idea in itself. It’s how it’s ruined by for-profit companies.

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    • Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I mean, yes and no. I like e-arc, and I like being able to adjust settings other than v-hold. But I don’t want this slow crud fest that keeps telling me when my neighbour turns on Bluetooth on their iphone.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I still probably watch 90% 1080p and 720p stuff lol. As long as the bitrate is good it still looks really good.

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  • Lenggo@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I have a Samsung frame because I wanted a TV that didn’t look so much like I had one, but the software is so goddam bad. The only way to switch sources quickly is to set them as a favorite which isn’t always that straight forward if you didn’t do it right away. Regardless you have to let the the home page fully render before you can even worry about that. Even the Samsung TV app which you would think would be perfectly optimized for the hardware since the same compare makes the software is barely functional and loads like a web page on AOL in 1998

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    • lobut@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I like my frame because it faces a set of windows and with all my other tvs … I would have to close the blinds to see the tv in the day time.

      However, the software is straight garbage. I didn’t even know about the favourite thing … every time I change source it would spend like a minute or two trying to figure out if it could connect to it for no reason.

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    • Rooster326@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Couldn’t any TV be a “frame tv”

      Would you just need some trim?

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• ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They showed Skyfall on 70ft IMAX screens, and that film was shot 2880 x 1200. Its not all about the pixel count.

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Where are those numbers from? They disagree with shotonwhat.com/skyfall-2012 . The IMAX release was done as a film print, which likely wasn’t made from the regular HD cut.

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    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      DP Roger Deakins has a forum on his site where he answers these sorts of questions. The Arri Alexa Studio was essentially developed for him, as he prefers an optical VF. It has an academy gate, and Deakins favours spherical lenses rather than anamorphic so we simply take the width of the sensor and crop down to 2.40:1 aspect ratio to get the quoted dimensions.

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• me_myself_and_I@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Maybe they should stop forcing this antiquated TV License scam

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  • Bloodyhog@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

    What are you going to attack next? The queen? Mary fucking Poppins?! Leave our feudal traditions alone! XXX

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  • skisnow@lemmy.ca ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    state controlled media is very bad

    Hard disagree: if there’s one thing we’ve seen over the many decades, BBC News for all its various stumbles has done a good job of setting a high bar for all the commercial news TV in the UK.

    Just compare it to the absolute trainwreck that is US TV news media. Sky News for example is a Murdoch station just like Fox News, and yet they don’t have even a fraction of the amount of crazy on there because the British people have come to expect their news presenters to act like adults and make at least some attempt at impartiality.

    Even if you don’t like the BBC’s output, you still get the benefit from its effect on the independents, and it’s not like anyone’s forcing you to watch it.

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    • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Likewise NPR/PBS in the US. They’re really the tits.

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  • Blemgo@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    As an example of the system being reworked into a better one: Germany’s equivalent not only finances public broadcast channels, but also youtubers through the program FUNK. Granted, a lion’s share still goes into the old TV channels, but at least that includes the French/German channel Arte, which has some top notch content (though usually documentaries) that it regularly uploads onto YouTube.

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  • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Government funded news programs are generally a good thing IF they’re mostly their own entity and importantly as long as they don’t block other sources. I think bbc being funded is good

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• DylanMc6@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  What about 12K?

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  • thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Silly goose, after 8K is 16K!

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• lechekaflan@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Most developing countries have cheap 1080p TVs right now, but others are still using CRTs, and still others are watching on their phones (like some of my poorer relatives who do get their entertainment fix through their phones while the big TVs in their living rooms rarely gets turned on).

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  • BanMe@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I think my TV is like 32" and 720p from 2012 or so. It’s fine.

    Before that I had a projector which was fun sometimes but mostly too big for the room. Cool to take psychedelics and run a visualizer while it was pointed along the floor at you. You could feel the fractals on your skin. I don’t do that anymore, so a 32" TV is fine.

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• towerful@programming.dev ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Yeh, do: 60fps, 30 bit color… and I guess HDR?
  Do things that people can actually appreciate.
  And do them in the way that utilises the new tech. 60fps looks completely different from 24fps… Work with that, it’s a new media format. Express your talent

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  • theparadox@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Sorry, the best I can do is install a camera and microphone on our next model, to spy on you and force interaction with advertisements.

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• pelespirit@sh.itjust.works ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  OLED and 4k is where it’s at.

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Even if it was, every streaming service will crush down the bitrate so bad it’d barely look any better than 4k anyway.

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• xSikes@feddit.online ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Working in entertainment and broadcasting, you learn barely half of Americans have a 4K tv and it’s under half worldwide. Marketing makes you think that “everyone is doing it”

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• sefra1@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Meanwhile I’m still at 1080p and most content I watch not even that.

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• OhioComrade@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Next big technological innovation will be good looking and fast working e- ink TVs.

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• xep@discuss.online ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Make a TV that can accurately reproduce really high contrast ratios and don’t put any pointless software on it. Display the image from the source with as much fidelity as possible, supporting all modern display technology like VRR.

  That’s all I want from a display.

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• Samsy@lemmy.ml ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Plot twist: because all we need is 16K.

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  8K is theoretically good as “spare resolution,” for instance running variable resolution in games and scaling everything to it, displaying photos with less scaling for better sharpness, clearer text rendering, less flickering, stuff like that.

  It’s not worth paying for. Mostly. But maybe some day it will be cheap enough to just “include” with little extra cost,” kinda like how 4K TVs or 1440p monitors are cheap now.

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• deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  High bitrate 1080p > mid/low bitrate 4k and 8k.

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• brucethemoose@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Also, we haven’t even got HDR figured out.

  I’m still struggling to export some of my older RAWs to HDR. Heck, Lemmy doesn’t support JPEG XL, AVIF, TIFF, HEIF, nothing, so I couldn’t even post them here anyway.

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• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  The University of Cambridge’s display resolution calculator, which is based on a study from researchers at the university’s Department of Computer Science and Technology and Meta, funded by Meta, and published in Nature in October, suggests that your eyes can only make use of 8K resolution on a 50-inch screen if you’re viewing it from a distance of 1 meter (3.3 feet) or less. Similarly, you would have to be sitting pretty close (2–3 meters/6.6–9.8 feet) to an 80-inch or 100-inch TV for 8K resolution to be beneficial. The findings are similar to those from RTINGs.com.

  This is know since at least 2010, since our eyes are limited in optical resolution.

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• zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  We didn’t even need 4k yet

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• BootLoop@sh.itjust.works ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I’ve never felt the need to go 4k either. I’m totally content to buy 1080p 144hz+ monitors for $100.

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• Tempus_Fugit@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I don’t even have 4K. My main TV is still 1080P and my monitors are 2K.

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• network_switch@lemmy.ml ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  For movies, look up what Alexa Mini’s can do. The very recent past dominant Mini had a 3424x2202 resolution. So movies took a 16x9 or cinemascope crop on that. Most movies shot digitally (most in the last like 20 years) were shot at below 4k. Many had special effects done at 1080p. When movie theaters switched to digital projection, most used 2048x1080 projectors and the shift towards 4k projectors wasn’t that long ago.

  The Alexa Mini LF can do 4448x3096. Just a tad bit over 4k once it’s cropped. The Sony Venice 8k camera is a few years old only. There’s a huge amount of loyalty to Arri, particularly the lenses. Panasonic and Z-Cam have 8k cameras. But like Arri, I’d bet most filmmakers would choose the 4k/6k cameras

  Even the ones that opt for the 8k cameras, they’re very likely would be lower resolution cameras in use as well like the Alexa Mini or a 4k/6k Z-Cam or like a Sony FX3. Including most nature documentaries. Unless it’s just wide canvasrs, you’re not going to be mounting the 8k cinema cameras all over the place like you would cheaper small cameras like an FX3. Plus stuff like shooting at 240fps 12bit color for slow motion playback. I’m betting that none of the cinema cameras support that. So back down to probably 1080p. Don’t know the status of 4k120 out there. That’s a lot of bandwidth, storage, processing power, and cooling needed

  Then there’s 70mm filming. The vast majority of productions cannot do that. There’s a lot of unused footage that goes into filmmaking. If you look at the size of a roll of 70mm film used for projecting a feature length film, it’s huge. It’s boutique equipment. There’s not a ton of cinema 70mm cameras and lenses to rent. Camera operators. Labs to get them scanned for digital editing. 70mm will always be limited in adoption especially now that digital is the dominant form of cinematography

  So 8k will for many many years be the land of upscaling and for native, old video games. Videos, I guess two 8k60 cameras rigged together for VR will lead the way along with an occasional movie/documentary. No guarantees that the movie theater will show it in 8k though let alone. It’s taken a very long time for 4k projection to become standard for theaters

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• BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  My vision is failing faster than resolutions are improving and most of the time I can’t even tell the difference between 4k and 1080p. More interested in higher FPS content becoming more commonplace.

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• masterspace@lemmy.ca ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Honestly, we have way more work to do when it comes to brightness, contrast, and colour.

  I’d rather a 1080p screen that has OLED infinite contrast and over 1000 nits of sustained brightness to be fully viewable during the day, over a resolution bump.

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