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In the future, there will be a sad scene of widow watching AI porn of their dead spouse

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Submitted ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Fandangalo@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨showerthoughts@lemmy.world⁩

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Future? There are ads showing this now.

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    • Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I think I mean like in a movie.

      A trope now is a widow looking at someone who passed with some longing. We’re starting to see more stories about the “AI afterlife” industry. I don’t think it’s long before movies or shows incorporate this hellscape we live into the plot.

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      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It’s pretty close to the plot of Upload, where people choose to upload their personality into a hologram, so they can exist forever. I think. Its been awhile since I watched it.

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Yeah the future is now: there’s an entire subreddit devoted to deepfaking porn videos of dead women (and it has been around for years! What a great website!)

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    • kelpie_returns@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      This should notnhave surprised me, but it did. The internet was a mistake

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      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You should probably take solace from the fact that there’s still depths of depravity of which you are unaware!

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      • BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I remember when the Internet first came along, and everybody was so excited about the future potential for the improvement of mankind, and I just kept thinking:

        “Have you ever met any People? This going to get really bad.”

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      • Pat_Riot@lemmy.today ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        It was fine before the normies came on

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    • Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Oh geez… I haven’t been to Reddit in a few years. Having that be the draw or main aspect of the subreddit just seems really weird.

      I can see this being more prominent the closer someone was to their peak, like someone who passed in their 20s or 30s. It’s a sad outcome of our times.

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      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        From what I remember it was mostly a control-over-their-body thing. “Ha, I can make porn of you and you can’t stop me” sorta deal. Deeply horrible, though I did just check and it looks like it’s either been taken down or I can’t find it, so there’s that…!

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    • falseWhite@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
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      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Er… no, reddit still very much has porn. And it’s not deepfakes specifically but the premise of specifically deepfaking deceased people.

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  • MourningDove@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Google: How do I delete someone else’s post on lemmy?

    🤣

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  • janus2@lemmy.zip ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    this is somehow worse than Black Mirror: Be Right Back

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    • Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I heard the meme at the end.

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  • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Not just that. They’ll offer services where you can text and talk wuth them and they will mimic the decreased vocabulary, voice, and tone. All for a very reasonable, and predatory, subscription fee structure.

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Not your weights, not your wifu. Self host your dead relatives.

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    • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      “Erm… all that data you uploaded belongs to us now… your dead loved one is wholly owned by the corporation now. Pay up or lose them again.”

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      • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        “Not ready to commit to our full package yet? For a monthly fee we won’t delete all that data we illegally collected while you decide if you want your loved one to be forgotten forever or not.”

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  • 5ibelius9insterberg@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    „I also choose this guys wife.“

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    • iamanurd@midwest.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Found what I came for

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  • trashcroissant@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Wasn’t there a black mirror episode or something like this

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    • neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Season 2, episode 1, Be Right Back.

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      • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Okay, but don’t forget to let us know which episode it was!

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  • CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
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    • Dorkyd68@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      You did see the porn bit in the post yeah?

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      • CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Ew, no

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    • unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Its not morbid, its disrespectful. Let dead people be dead.

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      • MrFinnbean@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        Its unhealthy way to grief sure, but the dead dont really care about the respect. I mean in the history of everything not a single person has ever come back to complain about how they were treated post mortem.

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      • JandroDelSol@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I think you missed their joke lol

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      • CatsPajamas@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        I don’t think she’ll mind, lmao

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  • ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Do I now have to be offended if my partner doesn’t want to watch porn of me after I’m dead?

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  • FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Is it porn the deceased spouse created or is it porn the widow created with the deceased husband’s likeness? And which would indeed be sadder?

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    • Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      If I was painting the scene, it’s probably a dude who loses his wife in her 30s. He went out to a date to try and rebound, but no dice. He comes home, looks at a photo, then generates the porn. But he starts crying in the middle & doesn’t finish.

      I’m thinking about it as pretty sad.

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      • poweruser@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You could imagine a thriller version of this scene, where the AI starts talking to him and exploiting his weakness to manipulate him into releasing it or contacting aliens or ghosts or whatever the plot is about

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    • toxoplasma0gondii@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      My first thought was some kind of advanced spam blackmailing TBH

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  • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The issue of giving people ways to avoid grieving and letting go of their loved ones popped up a number of years ago when places started offering clones of your deceased pet. Even that isn't a good idea, and not fair at all to the animal. But it's not good for the mental well being of the person. Death is part of life, and pretending someone is still here is not healthy.

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    • Fandangalo@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I agree. I’ve been watching the AI afterlife industry coming online, and it feels really bizarre. One aspect is replicating a loved one in text or audio.

      However, AI porn from banal photos will be a problem. It feels a little like Pandora’s box, and I don’t think the public knows how bad the problem will be. The public has been uploading photos & videos of themselves for years. It’s not trivial to make deepfakes, but it will, sooner than most people think.

      And with that comes the combination of these things. A grieving loved one, maybe watching on VR, with generated porn from someone the passed. It feels like some messed up cyberpunk necrophilia, but I can see someone doing it too.

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    • EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Considering that my grief towards deceased pets is for their loss (i.e. they no longer get to experience life), cloning is not only ineffective but outright disrespectful.

      A cloned pet doesn’t continue that animal’s consciousness. It’s just breeding a “replacement”. And it not only deprives a shelter pet of a potential home, but the cloning process itself is unethical: (see reason 2 and 3) www.dailypaws.com/living-with-pets/…/pet-cloning

      If I had $35K (per linked article) to burn for cloning my deceased cat, I could instead provide lifetime care for an adopted cat and still leave a 5-digit donation to shelters, rescue groups, or spay/neuter surgeries. This would be a more fitting tribute.

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    • Artisian@lemmy.world ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Just checking: do we have a source on this? Or is this like accepting death by tuberculosis: we’ve romanticized a bad time.

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      • Rhaedas@fedia.io ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        A source about grieving and acceptance vs. refusal to acknowledge a death? Realizing that people and things die isn't romancing anything, it's being realistic instead of pretending nothing happened or that they're "back" from the dead.

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  • rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Certainly not in any big budget mainstream movie there won’t be, because the LLMs used to generate script prompts for the LLMs used to generate visuals and audios wouldn’t understand why a human using an AI to fake a human interaction because they’re soul-crushingly lonely would be sad.

    Honestly, it might even be generated as a “happy” scene, to show a “normal” life in the future as product placement for the AI companies as they try to exploit fomo to dig their way out of their inevitable fifty trillion dollar income deficits

    Wow, I’m genuinely not excited for or interested in the future at all. Oh.

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  • ivanafterall@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    The scene is only sad if you make it sad.

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  • jerkface@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    How is this any sadder than just closing your eyes and thinking really hard while you crank one out

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This has already happened.

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