Artisian
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- Comment on 5 days ago:
If someone wakes up and changes the governments, whatever the new ruling system is will be a government and will need models to choose the best way forward. So I think their statement is literally true (and inevitable conditioning on humanity surviving for a few more millennia). Note that the populace is more aware than ever, and getting more informed over time on climate change.
It’s unlikely that the climate modeling apparatus has siphoned off the people required to convince or force governments to act reasonably. Lift where you can reach: I think the research is not pointless.
- Comment on Anyone know where I can buy or get books by the pound to start a new library for our local jail. To help them read and prep them for a GED? 6 days ago:
^^ This is very good. Also schools! I had a highschool giving out literal trucks of books a couple times.
- Comment on ‘Pokémon Go’ players have been unknowingly training delivery robots 1 week ago:
idk, I assumed it would be used for every data-science application for all future time. the privacy policy was terrible.
- Comment on Anyone know where I can buy or get books by the pound to start a new library for our local jail. To help them read and prep them for a GED? 1 week ago:
Pallets, often of mixed books, get sold via auction at the post office reclimation center. You must arrange pickup and shipping. www.govdeals.com/en/asset/145908/4703
Something I really wish I didn’t know about. Hope it’s useful.
- Comment on ‘Pokémon Go’ players have been unknowingly training delivery robots 1 week ago:
… Source for unknowingly??
- Comment on Warning: Your AI-Generated Password Is a Major Security Risk. Here’s What to Use Instead 1 week ago:
Np, search is getting terrible. Thanks for looking!
- Comment on Warning: Your AI-Generated Password Is a Major Security Risk. Here’s What to Use Instead 1 week ago:
Source appreciated? Was this inside the research paper?
- Comment on Warning: Your AI-Generated Password Is a Major Security Risk. Here’s What to Use Instead 1 week ago:
Just noticing: there’s 0 evidence in article that anyone is doing this. I just don’t buy that this is happening enough to matter. Interesting as interpretability research at best
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
That’s also precedent, and a template for using on institutions to break copyright. Still seems like good news to me.
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
Precedent is, in effect, new law and it absolutely does change who gets taken to court and the costs of defending your case. So, depending on which arguments the court accepts, I won’t need fancy lawyer. And it won’t require nearly the risk, creativity, or time that it requires of Meta’s legal reps today. Look at civil rights or environmental protections case law; big profile early cases were horrifically costly, and now compliance by company’s is largely by default.
Horrible people and companies can set good precedent, often without intending to. For example, plenty of criminals set and clarified due process law. So we absolutely could all benefit from Meta’s bad intentions.
We benefit from institutions that will be training their own AI, hosting data publicly, and have the resources to mirror a precedent. Care to cite sources that the arguments being accepted are going to carve out Mark Zuckerberg by name as the one person who can ignore copyright? I haven’t read the fillings, but this should be easy.
- Comment on 2 weeks ago:
I read this as setting precedent that others couldn’t. Court cases like this are one way to make it possible for everyone to break an absurd law.
- Comment on Uploading Pirated Books via BitTorrent Qualifies as Fair Use, Meta Argues 2 weeks ago:
Worth remembering that any group could make a company. They are work, but not particularly class locked.
- Comment on Trump administration to stop collecting tariffs this week after Supreme Court bans his global levy 4 weeks ago:
I thought he’d already proposed/tried to impose a new teriff for the next 6 months? Or was that just words
- Comment on Humans' behavior about LLMs is the same as animals with a mirror: they believe there is "another" in there. It's just their reflexion 4 weeks ago:
Just noting that the mirror test is a bad way of studying theory of mind.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirror_test#Criticism
It’s interesting as a silly and absurd way humans used to demean other species. But I think it says a lot more about those who use it than the animals.
- Comment on Revealed: How Substack makes money from hosting Nazi newsletters— Site takes a cut of subscriptions to content that promotes far-right ideology, white supremacy and antisemitism 1 month ago:
It does seem like the headline + mechanics are entirely uninteresting and unsurprising. I guess the ‘newsworthy’ thing here is that substack platforms the neo-natzis?
It also platforms a bunch of ex-guardian journalists, who will say plenty about the harm being done by corporate buyouts and influence in traditional media. So I have a hard time taking this article, from this venue, very seriously.
For example: fox news, every podcast service, the opinion pages (and some news sections) of most major newspapers, and (I assume) more have all been profiting off of amplifying fringe right-wing folks. Is substack substantially worse? Are they doing anything policy wise that we should advocate for? Regulators who aren’t doing something they should?
- Comment on Revealed: How Substack makes money from hosting Nazi newsletters— Site takes a cut of subscriptions to content that promotes far-right ideology, white supremacy and antisemitism 1 month ago:
… Don’t they take a cut of most subs?
- Comment on France will replace Microsoft Teams, Google Meet, Zoom, Webex and others with its own sovereign video conferencing application "Visio" for public officials 1 month ago:
Also improves Teams/slows the enshitifcation. It’s harder to make the product bad when it’s hardly a monopoly.
- Comment on F*** You! Co-Creator of Go Language is Rightly Furious Over This Appreciation Email 2 months ago:
The people who have made that category error aren’t reading this discussion, so literally reaching them isn’t on the table and doesn’t make sense for this discussion. Presumably we’re concerned about people who will soon make that jump? I also don’t think that making this distinction helps them very much.
If I’m already having the ‘this is a person’ reaction, I think the takes in this thread are much too shallow (and, if I squint, patterned after school-yard bullying) to help update in the other way. Almost all of them are themselves lazy metaphors. “An LLM is a person because its an agent” and “An LLM isn’t a person because it repeats things others have said” seem equally shallow and unconvincing to me. If anything, you’ll get folks being defensive about it, downvoted, and then leaving this community of mostly people for a more bot filled one.
I don’t get think this is good strategy. People falling for bots are unlikely to have interactions with people here, and if they are the ugliness is likely to increase bot use imo.
- Comment on F*** You! Co-Creator of Go Language is Rightly Furious Over This Appreciation Email 2 months ago:
I think this confuses the ‘it’s a person’ metaphor with the ‘it wants something’ metaphor, and the two are meaningfully distinct. The use of agent here in this thread is not in the sense of “it is my friend and deserves a luxury bath”, it’s in the sense of “this is a hard to predict system performing tasks to optimize something”.
It’s the kind of metaphor we’ve allowed in scientific teaching and discourse for centuries (think: “gravity wants all master smashed together”). I think it’s use is correct here.
- Comment on F*** You! Co-Creator of Go Language is Rightly Furious Over This Appreciation Email 2 months ago:
We attribute agency to many many systems that are not intelligent. In this metaphorical sense, agency just requires taking actions to achieve a goal. It was given a goal: raise money for charity via doing acts of kindness. It chose an (unexpected!) action to do it.
Overactive agency metaphors really aren’t the problem here. Surely we can do better than backlash at the backlash.
- Comment on Insider trading, but make it worse 2 months ago:
Which, fwiw, night be a feature not a downside? Transparency if the fact is juicy enough.
- Comment on GOG is getting acquired by its original co-founder: What it means for you 2 months ago:
Seems vaguely weird, but I can’t identify the subtext (if there is some).
- Comment on Are we deprogramming empathy in the US? 2 months ago:
I agree that the bar seems to have raised; the implicit assumptions were taken from the OPs quotes. That was the intended context, apologies if that was not clear.
Non-selective bodies: food banks that serve all who appear, common greens and parks, public libraries, perhaps some gyms or cellular networks. There were a few intentional communities that took a broad welcoming stance, I think New Harmony Owenites is one I’ve heard about.
- Comment on Are we deprogramming empathy in the US? 2 months ago:
Yay more experiments! I’m interested in what you’re modeling the structure and system based on.
- Comment on Are we deprogramming empathy in the US? 2 months ago:
Selective: there is either a process which rejects a nontrivial number of applicants (in a way which is not random; the output distribution is different from the applicant population), or there is no open system to join the commune at all (and the initial members are again very much not typical).
Long-standing: a continuous group has existed with the same name for more than, let’s say, 25 years. Ideally in a similar place and with similar policies, but I’m flexible.
Commune/community: a democratically run sharing of resources and container of social connections. They must have things held in common, to which any productive member contributes and any needy member can draw from. The things must be controlled according to the groups intent. Participation in this process should be high. A significant portion of social life of most members should stay within the community.
Successful: a vibe, but not killing too many members and improving the quality of life for members seem like good minimums.
Definitions are meant to be broad here, because I would like to hear about your oranges. Close examples that miss:
Most governments (not communal or not democratic)
Most churches (quite selective, required beliefs for example)
- Comment on Are we deprogramming empathy in the US? 2 months ago:
Annoyed to report: successful and long standing communes/communities seem to all be highly selective, at least initially.
If you’ve got good examples that contradict this, please share.
- Comment on The Algorithm Finally Works For You 2 months ago:
Directionally correct, but it does require self hosted agentic models that can compete with the automation running on corporate side. This is not obvious. It will be a new equilibria; maybe just a few more hours of poorly done work by a handful of consumers is enough to break some monopolies. Or maybe everyone will be attached to OpenAI compute, and we’ve just gained a new middleman for most interactions.
- Comment on The Algorithm Finally Works For You 2 months ago:
Then you should be able to easily give criticisms.
- Comment on Fact brief - Do solar panels generate more waste than fossil fuels? 2 months ago:
New fact checker to me, but the article itself looks good and the sources seem reasonable.
Wish more of the article made it into the title or post body?
- Comment on Data centers need electricity, utilities need years to build – who should pay? 3 months ago:
It is very interesting to me that we don’t make this requirement for all large power users - factories, big suburbs, etc. Because we give power companies a monopoly (but don’t put them under state control), we often let big building projects force them to expand infrastructure (and then sell access as they do). So this is a whole weird thing with capitalism meeting very regulated monopolies, in a thousand different systems cause every local has different rules.
The thing that’s breaking our systems here isn’t that datacenters are big power users. It is that they can be built so quickly.
I’m surprised we didn’t make ‘bring your own power’ a rule before; I guess it’s infrastructure that generally is useful for many people to timeshare, and often isn’t fully used by just one party? Factories turn off some nights, for eg. And maybe it would be bad to have multiple power providers independently pumping power out?