Seems like another attempt to stifle the flow of information.
FBI Tries to Unmask Owner of Infamous Archive.is Site
Submitted 2 days ago by silence7@slrpnk.net to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.404media.co/fbi-tries-to-unmask-owner-of-infamous-archive-is-site/
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tonytins@pawb.social 2 days ago
snoons@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I’ll take Things fascists do for 400 please, Alex.
XiELEd@piefed.social 2 days ago
I remember when ICE took down Zlibrary…
Balldowern@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Why isn’t the FBI doing anything about Epstein island list ? That’s more important than some archive website.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 2 days ago
Whose bread I eat, his song I sing.
Dnb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Because the archive site points out their deceptions, lies and cruelty
NABDad@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Because the victims of the rape of children in the Epstein case don’t have the money. The perpetrators do.
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 days ago
They probably are. They’re trying to make sure it hasn’t leaked onto archive.is.
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
They don’t need to, they already have it all.
rekabis@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
The FBI is probably going nuts here because someone inadvertently archived the Epstein files and everyone at HQ is panicking. They need to purge it for the Internet before someone discovers that archived content, and so they’re using CP as an excuse.
uss_entrepreneur@startrek.website 2 days ago
In fairness, if they are hosting those files, there is a very good chance there is cp
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
One domain is already blocked here in Italy for CP
shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
You can just go fuck a duck. Archive is super useful. Leave it alone.
SARGE@startrek.website 2 days ago
go fuck a duck
Poor duck…
wewbull@feddit.uk 2 days ago
I’m assuming the duck’s on top
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
Poor human. Those corkscrews are not to be fucked with.
Zink@programming.dev 1 day ago
Auto correct.
They meant to say suck a fuck, not fuck a duck.
finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Ducks are used to it, female ducks developed curled vaginal canals to deter forceful reproduction but male ducks simply evolved corkscrewed dicks so now ducks never reproduce without inflicting great agony.
themachinestops@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
NotSteve_@piefed.ca 2 days ago
Meta
tja@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
AI stealing our work. The collapse of social networks. The need to pay journalists to produce impactful journalism. Here is why we are asking for your email address to read 404 Media.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 days ago
So basically you need to spam me. Because a donation plea every so often . . .doesn’t get enough addresses to sell?
I’m saying it’s a flawed implementation is all.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Softest paywall ever - they do such good work, they can have an anonymous email of mine no problem
Magic link’s so annoying though, just wanna password (they’re journalists not techies though is the long and short of it)
sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Or…
But they are the same mob so why is the suffix different? ph, vn, is, md, today are interchangeable.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Redundancy, in case of loss of a domain.
snoons@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
Friends of tech Bros Incorporated.
Regulatory capture is complete in the states.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The archive runs Apache Hadoop and Apache Accumulo. All data is stored on HDFS, textual content is duplicated 3 times among servers in 2 datacenters and images are duplicated 2 times. Both datacenters are in Europe, with OVH hosting at least one of them.
To avoid detection, archive.today runs via a botnet that cycles through countless IP addresses, making it quite difficult for grumpy webmasters to stop their sites getting scraped. Access to paywalled sites is through logins secured via unclear means, which need to be replenished constantly: here’s the creator asking for Instagram credentials. Finally, the serving of the website is also subject to a perpetual game of cat and mouse: “I can only predict that there will be approximately one trouble with domains per year and each fifth trouble will result in domain loss.” As of today, archive.today still works, but users are redirected to archive.md.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
here’s the creator asking…
Where?
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 1 day ago
phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
“Infamous”? More like wonderfully useful.
conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 1 day ago
It occasionally catches things that archive.org misses too. Also really nice to have an alternative.
It’d be nice to have a way of doing decentralised archiving while still keeping the trust. If you’re trying to prove that a site really said something at a certain date to another person, pointing to your own archive is kinda useless.
dan1101@lemmy.world 2 days ago
The news sites are trying to have it both ways. Serving the news articles to visitors and then covering them up with a paywall with browser tricks.
silence7@slrpnk.net 1 day ago
I’m a bit sympathetic to them — they do need to get paid to keep operating, and ads don’t cover the cost of providing news anymore
ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 1 day ago
I would put that more on the ad networks, if the ads were related to the article, it may generate a few more clicks. The ads are completely random and built off a profile they assume would contain relevant info about me… but it doesn’t really seem to be accurate (this is kind of by my own choosing though).
Instead articles about rebuilding cars should have ads related to perhaps rebuilding cars and not some fucking nutritional supplement or some other unrelated thing.
EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This article isn’t behind a paywall, you just have to make an account.
girlthing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
The owner should release the source code before things escalate further. I’m sure there’d be people willing to host instances. It’d suck for all that work to go down the drain.
If you agree and you have Tumblr, would you consider asking them anonymously?
deathbird@mander.xyz 2 days ago
No for real, why? Why are they persuing this?
frongt@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
eah@programming.dev 1 day ago
The administration didn’t threaten to take down the IA or investigate it or anything like that, so it’s not similar at all.
It’s conspiratorial to think the FBI is doing this to censor or hide something. archive.is is primarily used to get around paywalls. The most likely explanation is news sites complained to the FBI that their copyrights are being violated (which is true), so the FBI is investigating. They’ve had a problem with falling revenue for a decade or more at this point as everything went online and people expected to get instance access for free in contrast to print media.
deathbird@mander.xyz 1 day ago
I suspect they’re going after .is because they are more resistant to taking things down. But that’s speculation on my part. And even if I’m right, what is it that they actually are trying to remove?
zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
It’s hard to rewrite the past if someone’s keeping receipts
W3dd1e@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I get around paywalls by disabling JavaScript when I read the news
Gonzako@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I use the mozilla reader mode
Wiz@midwest.social 1 day ago
Holy crap, I’d never thought of that. Does it work pretty reliably?
punkibas@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
I have JavaScript disabled by default on all pages, I only activate it if I need to, as per the privacyguides recommendations, but on this site at least, it still won’t load the article. If I want to read it I’d have to either register or use the archive.
Broadfern@lemmy.world 2 days ago
That would explain why adguard’s public DNS started blocking it (labeled vaguely as “legal request”).
mierdabird@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
Guess I’ll be getting around to starting my own pihole after all
Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 2 days ago
You can also use NextDNS as alternative
Treczoks@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Shouldn’t they focus on the no. 1 law breaker and court ignorer in the country?
a_person@piefed.social 2 days ago
Damn, I was wondering why it was down. I hope it goes back up soon, its such a useful tool.
dsilverz@calckey.world 2 days ago
@a_person@piefed.social @silence7@slrpnk.net @technology@lemmy.world
Same when I tried to access the archived version of the linked article of this thread. I was faced by a TLS error I never saw before (SSL_ERROR_INTERNAL_ERROR_ALERT), so I thought the Archive Today was facing server-side issues, until I decided to try accessing through the smartphone, and no error happened there.
I only managed to access Archive Today through my computer after disabling several security things, which seems quite suspicious, as if the Archive Today were being hijacked by a MitM (possibly the FBI themselves? They're famous for setting up honeypots) who were trying to push malicious code/tracking to whomever access it.
I would be further worried if I were USian or a citizen from Global North (as I'm Brazilian and from Global South, I can tell the FBI to go pound sand, lol).
To USians, my suggestion is caution accessing Archive Today (at least the current IP address being pointed at by mainstream DNS resolvers) for a while, as the server, while seemingly Archive Today, may be actually some kind of FBI honeypot in disguise. It goes without saying how ICANN and IANA are US entities, prone to interference from three-lettered US agencies. There are alternatives to Archive Today, such as Ghost Archive and 12ft.Broadfern@lemmy.world 2 days ago
12ft got taken down sometime last year, iirc.
a_person@piefed.social 2 days ago
Rip, I was on my school wifi acessing it.
sqgl@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
It is up. This article for instance: archive.is/5QFkF
or
archive.today/5QFkF
or
archive.md/5QFkF
etcpunkibas@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Interesting, all 3 domains are blocked on the protonvpn DNS server, can only access the if I turn off my VPN.
NateNate60@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Question: how does this site differ in function to the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine?
silence7@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
They dont let sites opt-out, and they do a much more seamless job of enabling people to archive paywalled content
foodandart@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
You can access pages that are still actively behind any given site’s paywall.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Wayback Machine lets you select snapshots in a calendar without thumbnails, which is better for navigating among a large number of snapshots, while Archive.today shows a chronological dump of thumbnails, which is better for noticing visible changes.
Archive.today is better at getting through paywalls, the Wayback Machine doesn’t really do this.
And while not a functional difference, but imho quite important: The Wayback Machine is ran by a 100+ employee non-profit registered in the USA, which lends it quite a bit of legal and financial stabilitym but also subjects it to official oversight/censorship, while Archive.today is ran by a single mysterious dude who carefully hides his identity and we know nothing about what money the site is financed from. Both financial security and resistance to censorship can be useful attributes to an online archive, but I have more trust in the Wayback Machine being online in 10 or 20 years, than Archive.today.
NateNate60@lemmy.world 1 day ago
If I had to guess this guy is something like a Bitcoin millionaire or something. But that’s just based on the vibes of his speech with no concrete basis.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 2 days ago
When are we going to start talking about abolishing the FBI?
HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
As a Canadian I believe we should build a wall, not just a physical wall but a digital wall.
It’s just to provide a layer of fuck you to the Americans.
NGC2346@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
If it’s someone operating from Russia, they can beat it and get lost, because it won’t disappear.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 days ago
It’s more than famous, it’s infamous!
desmosthenes@lemmy.world 2 days ago
let’s hope the canadian company just ignores this
PKscope@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Tackling the problems that really matter. Good job, FBI.
Fucking clowns.
wuffah@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Oh matters to them all right, and their boss.
Devjavu@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 days ago
And it’s not like they’re gonna stop them anyways.