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This was from August 2025…
Amazon cloud chief says replacing junior employees with AI is ‘one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard’
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return2ozma@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Speculater@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Where do they think senior employees come from?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
Somebody else
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 hours ago
easy, hire outside the company, post listing "senior engineer wanted, x amount of experience required, plus X amount of years in this skill set,etc. they do this for other tech and stem positions too. In order to avoid having entry level/junior employees, instead trying to save money by having a few skeleton crew of senior engineers or phd/MS holders, while neglecting FOB graduates(except for requiring more experience than needed for that low level position)/.
CosmoNova@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
Just like with profits, big tech probably beliefs it can just borrow them from other big tech companies. There is no visible shortage if they shuffle them around really quick in the stupidest and most dangerous shell game of all time.
Munkisquisher@lemmy.nz 23 hours ago
When a daddy senior dev op and a mummy senior dev op love each other very much…
PetteriPano@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I wonder if those DevOps cost $72M/h.
Otherwise I have an idea that might save AWS some money.
nomnomdeplume@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Someone should tell them to set up alerts in their dashboard 😤
Archer@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The dashboard was in us-east-1 😆
niartenyaw@midwest.social 1 day ago
guess they forgot the “don’t make any mistakes” at the end of the prompt
Triumph@fedia.io 1 day ago
And this is just the first fallout. We're going to end up with a dearth of advanced skills for possibly decades if there aren't places for people starting off to gain experience. We won't get the level of creative innovation we should expect, but at least we won't be able to fix things that break, either.
hushable@lemmy.world 1 day ago
One of our junior DevOps, fresh out of college, lacks absolutely basic skills. Just today I was helping him debug a very simple
findcommand and asked him what that command does. “I’ll ask ChatGPT” he said as he copied and pasted it into the chatbox.I replied, “I asked what do YOU think it does” and he looked at me as if I was speaking some alien language. Now, I know and understand that
findis not easy to master, but damn, this command was dead simple and had a typo on it, really easy to spot.plateee@piefed.social 1 day ago
man findOr if reading isn’t their jam, head to explainshell.
I’m not going to say this shit isn’t hard - it can be challenging starting out if you don’t know where to look. But come on, at this point everyone should know ChatGPT gets shit wrong often enough not to trust it.
lando55@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Yeah well you have 5 seconds to enter a valid
tarcommand, no peeking, good luck
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 1 day ago
A great time for those that didn’t replace their people with AI to take some market share.
explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
We do bailouts instead now
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
We’re still suffering from the skills lack after we fired our mentors and documentors after Y2K. We’ve been 20 years without proper mentorship already, and now the last of the mentors will leave the market to the lost boys.
ripcord@lemmy.world 1 day ago
After 25 years are there not…new mentors?
HubertManne@piefed.social 1 day ago
Im sorta lucky I started my career in IT at a university that still had an old school unix guy.
HubertManne@piefed.social 1 day ago
this. its been going awhile and its getting worse. Im not even sure how things are managing to keep it together. oh. oh yeah.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world 1 day ago
They’ll outsource to India and there will be no one in the US capable of competing
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 hours ago
with all the lay offs, and downsizing, its going to affect a generation or 2. and students in universities, are abandoning school or choosing a non-tech field. state schools here was suffering from severe under-enrollment apparently for the last few years, because students lost confidence in these schools during covid(no career opportunities, development, no Hands on approach/experience, due to covid). The lucky ones who can transfer went to a more prestigious school instead , not everyone could do this, and one review in my school, she saw how when she went to UCLA transferred from the state school , that her peers stayed and struggled to develop thier careers. our state schools here is big on tech so the layoffs was really having downstream effects.
60d@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Your speaking of something that sounds dangerously like investing in science. I hope you’re hiding your IP. /s maybe
_stranger_@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
br0da@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I just want this company to burn to the ground along with several others
tidderuuf@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It reports that the AI detects and fixes IAM permission errors instantly, rebuilds broken VPC or subnet configs, and rolls back failed Lambda deployments without human input
I’m sorry but if the majority of your DevOps work was that then you deserved to get replaced with AI.
shalafi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was in DevOps, didn’t hardly touch AWS, but I can’t see how AI could possibly judge IAM permission errors.
CommissarKrieg@leminal.space 1 day ago
I blame rufus
hopesdead@startrek.website 1 day ago
Rufus would probably tell you there is no such thing as Rufus.
CommissarKrieg@leminal.space 1 day ago
Rufus is negative Alpharius then?
Rentlar@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Well, uh, try training your AI with the lessons learned, and hope it doesn’t instantly pretend it never happened the very next day.
The one value proposition for juniors is that though they screw up a lot, they learn by screwing up. High turnover and curtailing your junior experience using AI are major technical mistakes on management’s part.
Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
You know, I did most of a business degree, and there wasn’t one iota of a lesson about heeding expertise, mostly just maximizing profits and how to trick people into buying your shit
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Maybe the management is AI.
crusa187@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
No, but they should be.
northernlights@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Ah corporations, always ready to adopt the latest technology and use it exactly wrong.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Ah, it’s not new technology. It’s slave labor. Which is a super old concept actually. Now they just found the legal version.
goatinspace@feddit.org 1 day ago
tonytins@pawb.social 1 day ago
FailBetter@crust.piefed.social 1 day ago
Sounds like more outages imminent then
mandatstory@lemmy.world 1 day ago
HAHAHAHHAHA how do I put this on the front of Lemmy all the time I will never ever stop laughing at this
ayyy@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
Step one: find a single shred of evidence that this is true.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today 1 day ago
The future is now.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Move fast and break things…the mantra of silicon valley.
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social 1 day ago
Amazon is headquartered in Washington and the location of the network failure was in Atlanta. How is any of this relevant to a region in Northern California?
minorkeys@lemmy.world 1 day ago
It is a euphemism for high tech, particularly for the infotech industry, most of which started in silicon valley and is where many startups still come from. eBay, western digital, Nvidia, hp, adobe, PayPal,oracle, and, Intel, Cisco, meta, Google, Apple etc. They all come from there and bring the mantra with them in their corporate culture which is now common across industries, particularly info Tech.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Companies drink the Kool Aid all the time.
bagsy@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Did amazon finally run out of warm bodies to run through their meat grinder? I can’t believe no one wants to pee in bottles and get pipped after 6 months.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 hours ago
i read job reviews, how developers, engineers were worked to the bone comparatively to other tech jobs in other companies, for about the same or slightly lower income.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 20 hours ago
that explains alot, and not really surprising, amazon was always looking to have lowcost overhead. they do this when hiring for retail and warehouse positions, hire 100k/year or season for tax breaks/reductions in a city, and then get rid of them, rinse and repeat.
_cnt0@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
lol
NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Yeah, well it’s not like Amazon’s ever driven their own labor shortage before.
CandleTiger@programming.dev 1 day ago
From the article:
That’s some hard-hitting journalism right there
TheFogan@programming.dev 1 day ago
What do you expect… they replaced their investigative journalists with AI just days before this article came out.
(source, I asked chatgpt).
14th_cylon@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
yeah, we should really expect more from… checks notes… “global media platform, market research agency, and service that connects talents with hiring companies” 😂
jaybone@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Is it an AI article bashing AI?
AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 1 day ago
Yeah, I doubt this is true. At least a few laid off employees would have said so somewhere, and the “journalist” even says that there’s been nothing about layoffs since July.