Submitted 4 hours ago by ICastFist@programming.dev to showerthoughts@lemmy.world
Some of you might remember when a 3mb flash animation could pack in some 5 minutes of animation, with the more advanced ones even having chapter/scene selectors, which could also include clickable easter eggs and other kinds of interactions during the scenes.
There is, SVG with <animate>. It’s just not that common.
There’s a lot more tooling for creating rasterized videos than SVG. Flash had a whole development environment around it. SVG is comparatively rubbing sticks together to make fire.
I have see a lot implementation of interactive html5, that I think is similar to flash.
Wasn’t it also proprietary, and you needed Adobe software to create it? So it was Adobe’s decision to “demise it”.
Watching Homestar Runner on YouTube doesn’t hit the same
I vaguely remember one of the animations had Homestar pouring soda in the ending screen. After a while (30s?) he’d comment on how it had a lot more soda than it looked. The closest equivalent is a post-credit gags, but it’s not the same thing
🎶The never ending sooooooddaaaaaa…🎵
The absurd amount of security issues flash has lead to its demise.
Not true. It was not about that.
Did it really though? Ruffle is a reimplantation of Flash in Rust, and is available as a browser extension. Anything short of malicious swf files will play. So it seems that any “security issues” were clearly mitigatable.
They were, but it was up to Adobe to fix them, which they didn’t
We wish the security issues were what killed flash, but it had more than twenty years of security issues failing to kill flash. Flash died because it was replaced by newer technology.
I built websites and apps in flash. It was awesome. You could do a lot, especially in the later years, 3d games, anything was possible.
It was so easy and clean to create smooth animations, transformations, it was limitless. It’s a travesty that we got no replacement. You could do more quicker in the year 2005, than you can do today.
All of that is possible with modern JS and WebGL?
Sure it’s possible, but you can’t actually do it. Because you need a dedicated programer and you need to convey as a designer what to do, so it’s time consuming and expensive. Elaborate scifi UIs are extremely rare now.
After flash was killed, a big portion of creativity died with it. Every webpage started to look the same. I know I’m romanticizing it, but there is truth in that.
It’s also surprising that Newgrounds survived post-Flash.
But i think i prefer point and click game like from TellTale better, it’s an interactive movie.
This is technically possible, but it’d be best implemented as animation software that compiles a file/archive that’s usable by a standard browser based client that renders things locally using a canvas element.
They didn’t give you the entire kit because that wasn’t the W3C’s job, it was to give you the tools necessary to build the kit.
I blame Adobe.
They acquired Macromesia and just let Flash stagnate and renamed it Animate.
FrogBlender2000.swf
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 3 hours ago
Nostalgia goggles in effect. Flash was crap while every other tech caught up and surpassed it. Even today CSS/HTML is replacing Javascript in their area simply because people realize it has gotten that good. People acting like there is no alternatives but in reality people just gave up on that stuff as everything became reddit, twitter, youtube and facebook. The HTML5 stack has always surpassed Flash there is no excuse for the dickheads in this thread acting otherwise. WebGL2 WebASM? I recently made a tool that uses the Web Bluetooth API thingy. Javascript frameworks compare to Flash. You cannot compare the modern web tech you don’t bother with to Flash but you could compare it to Phaser.js.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 hour ago
My nostalgic sigh is about animations that became rasterized videos, thus losing any chance at being interactive or hiding easter eggs.
I am glad we no longer have sites made in pure flash, but now we have different stupid shit that also blocks back/forward navigation, fucks up scroll bars, hogs the CPU and crashes the browser for no good reason.
paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
Those last things you listed were all true of Flash too: