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People shouldn't have to jump through that many hoops to recommend something, that's ridiculous

True, but only for a commercial offering.

False, for free or open source software. Makemkv is the absolute best tool for ripping DVDs and bluerays. It requires being compiled from source in order to be used for free. Anubis charges 50/month to change the branding. These both serve the same purpose; a mild speedbump to encourage paying for the work of the developer.

Anubis' direct competitor will straight up hold your business hostage and blackmail your company for money when they feel like they can get away with it.

The 'ridiculous hoops to jump through' are there for the developers benefit, and are incredibly mild compared to most every other commercial offering. I just don't see why it matters so much that anubis must change in this way.

I was just taking issue with the responses ignoring the context given, and rudely.

Yup. The fediverse is usually better than reddit but it looks like today several people got up and chose angry instead of helpful. It happens for sure. I do love how helpful some of these have been though. Lots of good advice among the arguments at least.

You brought up butts.

No I didn't. You did. It's right above my comment. Don't lie. Everybody can see you mentioning butts first.

My point with going to an extreme with that is even you can agree there is a line somewhere where something shifts over the line of "too ridiculous to consider for serious purposes".

And my point is that "too ridiculous to consider for serious purposes" being the current state of things is wrong and needs to change to allow for less serious things to exist.

There is a conflict here. There are at least three options to resolve it. Either the company needs to change, anubis needs to change, or the users complaining about the other two groups need to change.

I'm arguing that the company is wrong for not changing. I'm also arguing that the user is wrong for complaining about anubis' branding. Hell, I'm even arguing that anubis is right for choosing to skip out on mainstream branding.

My point with going to an extreme with that is even you can agree there is a line somewhere where something shifts over the line of "too ridiculous to consider for serious purposes".

In short, I'm saying that anubis is nowhere near crossing that line.

random visitor visits your website and they see a weird anime girl drawing talking about security, what is the chance of them just bouncing away afraid that it is a virus or an unsafe website?

Very high. And they'd be completely wrong in doing so.

Let's not pretend that it's the furries fault that everyone discounts their work because of how they present themselves, especially for things they are giving out for free.

That's the neat part. You don't. If they can't get past the branding, that's their problem.

Trying to force the issue makes it into anubis' problem, which is a dick move for free software.

the unhinged and reality-divorced types who cannot understand something so simple as normal people thinking things are weird. Half the respondents here think you should scream at your coworkers

I've recommended the ploopy knob to coworkers before. I was in government work at the time. My current employer uses and recommends software called "keep ass". This is a user problem first, and a software/branding problem a distant second. The comments here reflect that.

Yes, software developers put out things that are counterculture. Yes, that can make working with them more difficult than it might otherwise be.

No, you should not blame the software developer for this.

If the branding causes too many issues, don't use it. The branding is there because the developer wants it there, and wants to have the type of customers that enjoy it, or can at least look past it. Everybody else being filtered out is a good thing.

Would your company use that software if it actually was? With a cartoon butt as the logo, not a key?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I don't live in that world, so I don't know. My previous employer used it too. It's kinda the standard for password management, just like anubis is. (which has a normal name and silly logo, as opposed to keepass which has a silly name and normal logo).

A butt is not the same as an animal person at all. The fact that you compared a cartoon mascot like Anubis' to a cartoon butt says more about you than it does this conversation. Cartoon animal people as mascots is older than the internet by a mile.

Like would you give a second glance at choosing something like UwU.jajaja.lol or whatever for your antivirus? It puts out "we don't take this seriously" vibes and that translates to "you shouldn't take us seriously either", which doesn't mech well with a serious software function.

Yes. Currently my office uses a tool called "keep ass" as the primary password database management tool.

If a company can't look past a cartoon mascot, it is best, for the developer of the tool, that company never actually uses the tool in the first place.

You can stop a lot of assholes at the door by putting a rainbow by the door handle. This is the same, and it's working as intended.

I think a lot of people in this thread have missed the point a little. Money isn't everything, and the branding is absolutely doing its job correctly here.

When advertising, you don't just tailor your branding to the customers, but to the customers you want to have.

If you want to have lots of locals visit your restaurant, you post your ad in the local newspaper. This specifically excludes out of towners, and makes sure that everyone that visits is very likely a local, or someone who actually pays attention to local events.

I think my favorite example was a wedding contractor one of my siblings hired. They used to have a genericly professional "wedding hair" type of name, but then they switched to an innuendo name instead. Before the switch, they got every bridezilla out there. After the switch all of their customers were a shitload more chill about things, with the bonus of usually having very similar styles of humor as the contractor did. She was a lot of fun to be around when everybody was getting ready, and all it took was changing her company name to something "unprofessional" to filter out most all of the bad customers.

If you want to exclude people who hate furries, might be transphobic, or otherwise problematic, you add a furry logo to your hobby project and make it very obvious what it is.

Having your branding and advertising filter out the idiots who hate furries is a feature, not a bug.

Yeah, but Xe Xaio also has a full time job that is funding things right now. There's room for priorities other than profit, such as cute furry art. Not everything has to be about money.

Either you are a creep or otherwise come off as creepy due to Audhd things

That is one hell of a leap. Maybe don't try to diagnose people on the internet?

The reaction you are describing is not reasonable

No, it is. Anubis being unprofessional is by design. It's run by one person, as a hobby, as of last year. When you aren't reliant on profit in order to run a project you are able to adjust your priorities away from 'money at any cost'.

Well, only if you assume the end goal is to make profit from the various businesses out there.

That can't be it. We have vents that needs screws on both sides and go through walls just fine. Maybe it's regulatory instead.

Yeah. It sucks, but discord replaced all the old clients for damn good reasons. I just wish that the open source clients had the features that discord does.

I'm hoping xep-0503 gets implemented in a couple xmpp clients at some point soon. That'll make xmpp have feature parity with discord, except for ease of use, which is a barrier I'm willing to help friends/family work through in order to never have to switch chat clients ever again, since xmpp has been around for nearly thirty years now.

This isn't targeted at you, zen_shinobi, specifically, but you are the latest example of one of my pet peeves, so I'm replying here.

Mumble doesn't have text channels.

Everytime time I see a discord alternative proposed it always has at least one major feature missing. Discord isn't just popular because it has almost always works out of the box, but because it has every single feature a communication platform could want. This makes it incredibly easy to use in practically every context.

Iphones revolutionized the phone space because they combined PDAs and cell phones in a very easy to use package, not because they did something completely new.

Discord combined video, audio, AND text into an incredibly easy to use package, and became the biggest chat platform in the world because of it.

Nothing is an entirely valid discord alternative until it has feature parity, including ease of use and compatibility, and I haven't found a single alternative that does that yet. (And isn't vibecoded slop, venture funded, incredibly early alpha, difficult or impossible to set up or even connect to, or some combination of the previous).

Gamevox is a new option I'm seeing, but it's also for profit, and I'm sick and tired of switching software just to see it get sold to a vc company and enshittified right underneath me.

Oh it was. Google timeline should have never become a thing for anyone worried about privacy.

The thought behind it is actually pretty neat though. Being able to see a list of places you've previously visited is just super neat to have. Hosting it at home just means that nobody else has that information.

If you want to cut out your ISP device entirely, you will need to know exactly what setup your ISP has given to you, and then match that with your own hardware. The https://pon.wiki/ and servethehome forums are a great place to start for this.

If your ISP device has a passthrough mode that you are happy with using, practically any device with two gigabit ports will work for a 1gbps internet connection. I use a https://friendlyelec.com/ device, because they come with friendlywrt preinstalled, but your choice of router software is basically entirely preference based.

It's got IR built-in too.

It's more expensive, but I grabbed a vero 4k a couple years back and have been really happy with it. They've since put out a new model with av1 support. https://osmc.tv/vero/

It's just about the best possible dedicated jellyfin client box out there, so I felt it was worth the extra squeeze when I got it. (HDR support even!) It's all open source though, so support for things like YouTube, netflix, or any other streaming doesn't really exist in user friendly manner.

I use a vero 4k. They've since dropped support (after seven years) and put out a new model with av1 support. It stills works incredibly well as a jellyfin client box.