Xbox: "Price Increases Are Never Fun For Anybody"

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• Typhoon@lemmy.ca ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Xbox: “Price Increases Are Never Fun For Anybody”

  Meanwhile Xbox execs:

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• sundray@lemmus.org ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Never fun for anybody

  Meanwhile, at Microsoft:

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  • Alaknar@sopuli.xyz ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, but, but, think of the shareholders! Nobody ever thinks about the shareholders! :(((

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    • Bronzebeard@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      MSFT has been lagging behind the S&P this week. I doubt they’re super thrilled.

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• sadfitzy@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s fun for the people making more profit.

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• EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I remember when GamePass was first announced and everybody lauded Microsoft for being “pro-consumer” and outright cheered when they started buying up independent studios.

  I remember being downvoted to oblivion for pointing out the very obvious 5 year plan for GP and the fact that it would go… exactly the way it’s currently going.

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  • Lfrith@lemmy.ca ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve been in the fuck subscriptions camp. Sony locking multiplayer behind PS+ wad led me to dropping consoles as my primary gaming system too, since I refused to pay for online.

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    • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t mind subscriptions for ongoing infrastructure as much. My problem is with using a subscription to replace ownership.

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  • sadfitzy@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yep. Same thing with netflix.

    The average consumer is a moron, so their complacency is irrelevant in determining what’s a good deal.

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  • cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I feel like I responded to this exact comment on Reddit years ago saying the same. The thing people don’t realize, is subscriptions give you zero control of ownership and it’s always in the best interest of the corp to bait and switch.

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  • Katana314@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    At the time, I predicted you were probably right - but it would still be a good value for the time that the price stayed low.

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• Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  They’re also upping the sub price for some home user office plans. Apparently it’s milk the customer time at microsoft.

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  • bear@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Part of the problem is that most of the people making these decisions have been seeing their incomes and net worth increase steadily over the past decade. They don’t truly understand their subscriber base.

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    • RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      But they do understand “charge what the market will bear”. It’s all about short term profit.

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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Thanks for letting me know, I’ve been paying just for some spare OneDrive space but I think I’ll cut it if they’re raising the price

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    • Prove_your_argument@piefed.social ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      My boss showed me the article yesterday, but apparently it’s the old news from earlier this year. It went from 70 to 100 back in Feb.

      That’s still a giant increase from whatever you would have paid last year.

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• fuzzywombat@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Raising the price of hardware twice since May and now raising the price of game pass by 50% is not something a company does if they’re interested in competing against Sony or Nintendo. Clearly Microsoft has thrown in the towel on XBOX. Only thing left for Microsoft to do is announce cancellation of next gen console altogether and do layoffs. I don’t know when that will happen but it’s inevitable at this point.

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  • rozodru@piefed.social ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    yup they’ll go the route of Sega. The writing has been on the wall with the Xbox Division for awhile now that I’m honestly surprised they’re still trying to “make it work”.

    Xbox was a weird one. I haven’t used one since the 360 and honestly I couldn’t even begin to tell you what the next console in the line was after the 360. was it the series x? was it the one? I dont’ know. I mean after buying like 5 360s because of red ring or whatever why would I continue that idiocy?

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    • Laser@feddit.org ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Lol yeah the naming was incredibly bad. But I’m pretty sure it was 360 -> one -> series. I only owned the original one (not the One one) and a 360 which luckily was unaffected by RRoD.

      I think the 360 was really good all things considered, it was a good console at the time and MS actually helped getting smaller studios their stuff into the store with summer of arcade. It also captured a lot of interest from third party studios. All in all pretty solid. Damn shame that the RRoD tainted the console so much.

      Segmenting the market after into S and X was a really dumb move in my opinion. The other one was trying to turn it into an entertainment machine instead of a game console (TV, TV, TV, sports…)

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  • vateso5074@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Raising the price of hardware twice since May and now raising the price of game pass by 50% is not something a company does if they’re interested in competing against Sony or Nintendo.

    But when Sony and Nintendo are doing the same thing…?

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    • RiverRabbits@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      got any source for that on the nintendo side? Idc about sony.

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• commander@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Sacrifice the future for a temporary revenue/profit go up

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  • AlternatePersonMan@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, it will work out for them. They just made a 50% profit increase. I doubt if even 10% of subscribers cancel.

    It worked for Netflix, Disney+, Hulu… People just need to stop buying shit, but they won’t.

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  • scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Even though I personally never used it I was astonished at how quickly so many people blindly trusted it. What I’m more astonished with is how quickly Microsoft has managed to destroy that brand trust.

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• JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Lol, but here’s one anyway. - Microsoft

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• melsaskca@lemmy.ca ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Especially for the companies who disappear because they were too greedy.

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  • datavoid@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m trying to think of a single example and I’m struggling

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    • theneverfox@pawb.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      McDonald’s is the most clear cut example, although that’s ongoing

      There’s been countless little companies that sent themselves into death spirals with a price hike, but when they’re big their remains are pounced on, or they experience a slow decline before collapsing to a failed pivot

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    • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      EA just had to sell to avoid continuing their downward spiral

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• EnderLaw@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Canceled.

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• Talaraine@fedia.io ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  They've made very clear that they're reducing functionality, dropping products including their gaming companies, and raising prices across the board to somehow come up with billions for AI. They no longer care about their customers or employees, only this holy grail quest for money that will evaporate. Dump Microsoft.

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  • sadfitzy@ttrpg.network ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And they’ll get away with it because of how many businesses chose to become dependent on microsoft.

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Microsoft was never going to make gaming affordable. The entire goal of GP is like any subscription service, to get you hooked so they can increase the prices. Microsoft is not and never was a pro consumer company. And GamePass is Microsoft’s attempt at making a hardwareless console. It’s a BYOD walled garden. It’s bad for consumers and bad for developers and publishers. Consumers will own nothing and studios are beholden to MS gatekeepers. Some account manager basically decides how much the devs will be financially compensated before the game is even released, instead of letting the market decide. If you think the standard 30% store cut is outrageous GamePass is on another level of bad. Sure they are currently showering devs in cash, but once MS has a significant chunk of the market they are going to turn off that tap. We’ve seen it with Netflix and Spotify. Like even the most popular artists earn fractions of cents per user.

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• LiveLM@lemmy.zip ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  but we’re trying to reinforce by adding more value to these plans as well."
  Fortnite Crew and Ubisoft+ Classics

  So if you don’t play Fortnite and aren’t interested in 15 different Assassin’s Creed titles, fuck you I guess

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  • datavoid@sh.itjust.works ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Imagine, if you will, the possibility of NOT increasing prices 50% to give us the “additional value” of shit we don’t want.

    I was happy paying for games, but suddenly I’m extremely willing to get back into piracy. Fucking weird, right?

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  • Passerby6497@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Apparently those titles are as or more valuable than half of the entire catalog, how can you not be excited‽

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• cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Thank you captain obvious?

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• Rakonat@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  You’re selling an underpowered console that spies on the home for 800usd. Stfu about the price being tough on the company

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Where is Xbox $800?

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    • ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      There’s a special edition for $730+tax so maybe they mean that.

      But starts at $380, less for return.

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• njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Except your CEO the boardroom and the shareholders

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• scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  It’s something we don’t take lightly, and we’re listening to the feedback of players and the community to try to provide them with more of what they’re asking for.

  God they will never understand that we see right through their bullshit corpo-speak answers will they. Everything they just said is nothing. They don’t take it lightly. They are listening. They will try. There is nothing concrete in that wet paper towel of an answer.

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  • Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    How do they think that shit still works?

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• xxce2AAb@feddit.dk ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So, if there had been no cancellations and their customers had just paid their bills without comment or criticism, they’d still have been telling us how terrible they felt about the whole thing?

  Bovine Excrement.

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• _lilith@lemmy.world ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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• Goun@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Look at that added value, tho

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• zecg@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  I would never give Microsoft money for their shitty subscription, so it is kind of fun for me.

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• Tolstoy@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So a dumb question: last email stated, if there be any changes in costs, they will notify me 60 days prior but I still haven’t got anything from M$… Aren’t they running head first into an giant lawsuit in Europe? Still going to cancel the subscription though

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  • BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, £15 was pushing it, I don’t play as much as I’d like, big benefit was cloud gaming facilitating couch co-op, but at the minute it’s mostly my kids playing Minecraft, cheaper just to buy that.

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