It hurt itself in its confusion doing exactly as it was told by the orange diaper man
Submitted 5 months ago by mesamunefire@piefed.social to technology@lemmy.world
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rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
PhAzE@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
Vance was recently on tv saying carr isn’t responsible because “look, Jimmy is still on tv, so what’d Carr do wrong?”, trying to sweep it under the rug.
ziggurat@lemmy.world 5 months ago
They were not successful in their goal when breaking the law, so this argument is that therefor they are innocent
purplestar@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
Good.
nothrone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 months ago
This just shows that the whole “muh, it is the corporations fault for the climate emergency, there is nothing I can do about it!” is a load of BS. You can vote with your wallet. Become anti-consumption.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I was trying to buy food that wasn’t covered in plastic. I don’t have an option. I have looked for butchers, bakers and general food items that sell without plastic wrapping and it just isn’t feasible.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
That’s an incredibly naive and misinformed opinion you’ve got there. Most of the companies polluting are not businesses that members of the public buy services from. The vast majority of the largest polluters are business to business providers, Joe public can’t do anything about that.
Just look up Monsanto, if we took them out the total pollution worldwide would probably drop by about 50% but they sell to farmers, so you might say well don’t buy from farmers that buy from Monsanto but the problem is all farmers buy from Monsanto, so there isn’t another option.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 5 months ago
What a terribly stupid and wrong take.
yakko@feddit.uk 5 months ago
It takes two to tango, they say. Corporations have a lot more wallet to vote with, as it were - but we are not powerless or blameless when we support them out of complacency.
loruuu@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
ive been trying to get ppl to boycott Disney plus for Palestine for over 2 yrs and white man does it in a week
cyan_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
I feel this, I’ve tried to get cis people to go to protests and mobilize for trans rights for years, and crickets, but they manage monthly marches and even a general strike (in my country) for Palestine since Oct '23. People usually have the capacity to organize, they just don’t think most issues are worth it.
SoftNoodle@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Yes, let’s add racism to this too!
GaMEChld@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Disney directly acted against Kimmel, caving to political pressure from the government, a wanton act of government censorship. What did Disney do to Palestine? Bomb them?
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Palestine isn’t American, it’s some far off place that most people have no connection to, no care for or about. And people generally have enough fucking problems in their own life to care about a place they likely will die before visiting or giving two shits about.
While Kimmel himself may not matter to many. The situation does directly affect the world and problem many Americans are worried about. It’s a literal representation of the turmoil that fills many Americans minds.
Not to mention Kimmel is a famous person that people know and have heard of. So his problem actually makes it to the ears of those that will resonate with the problem that his situation is in relation to.
You on the other hand are a literal nobody by comparison that no one but yourself and your immediate group will give any weight to your words.
Not to mention the hell does Palestine have to do with Disney…? That’s an extremely tenuous connection.
sudo@programming.dev 5 months ago
Liberals make up more of the consumer class than conservatives. That highly marketable strata of people that have disposable income tend to be affluent, college educated liberals. Its why they keep winning the culture war and it drives conservatives insane.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
It also helps that the conservatives constantly shoot themselves in their foot by defining their own reality. They decide for example that people don’t like “the gays” but really it’s only the right wing thugs that really have an opinion. The moderate conservatives aren’t bothered one way or the other. So now they’re trying to sell policies to subjugate a group of people that probably only about quarter of their membership really care about.
It is really obvious with Trump, they just invent entire new things to be mad about, like this Tylenol thing. That just came out of thin air because they couldn’t think of anything else to distract people with, but even their own supporters don’t really care about it because until about 3 weeks ago it wasn’t a claim that anyone was making.
hayvan@feddit.nl 5 months ago
Yes, and most of that consumer base needs to stop tolerating quite a bit of reactionary bullshit (yes, American “conservatives” aren’t conservative, they don’t keep status quo, they actively destroy it for regression, they are reactionary).
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Conservatives have always been reactionary. This isn’t a US thing it’s a global thing, they don’t want to keep things the same they want to return to some rose-tinted version of history that never existed. They’re the ones that call themselves conservative.
But you can’t call everyone you disagree with a delusional idiot even if they are, because the insult loses its power. So we might as well call them by then preferred name
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
the problem is these corps/media is controlled mostly by conservative ceos, which will lick TRUMPs boot anytime, they are fickle and untrustworthy, but the gop is the most consistent in not interfering with “unethical business pratices”, plus they also use these media/ to issue propaganda in many forms, like you said to institute culture wars.
SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
Corporations don’t have stable political identities.
They’ll promote trans people if it makes them money.
And then sell trans people to ICE the next quarter if it makes them even more money.
And then use a shell company to sell trans merch to the people boycotting them.
scarabic@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Nice. None of those “go woke go broke” boycotts ever actually materialize into meaningful business pressure.
Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.
echodot@feddit.uk 5 months ago
Most CEOs are generally bright enough to look at the sales data rather than all of the online rhetoric and if the sales data isn’t going down they can ignore everything else.
Everyone knows the right are terrible at organising themselves, they need a central figure in lieu of that they never achieve anything. When they try and boycott something it generally fails because most of them will continue to use the service while declaring loudly online that their not. The right don’t have actual moral values, other than selfishness.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
lol they are already on another “cracker barrel trend” right now, about a music performer making maga mad. also CB situation was fueled mostly by a certain propaganda source.
Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus 5 months ago
Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.
Which was manufactured outrage, spawned by a few Shitter posts which were then amplified by a huge bot network.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
by russia too.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Cracker Barrel is so far in the red that the logo redesign was a hail mary move. They couldn’t afford to lose the tiny number of people who still frequent their trash diners.
LillyPip@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
So far.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 months ago
tbh, I expect a lot of subscribers to resub sooner than later. Sadly
Jourei@lemmy.wtf 5 months ago
I think this is how boycotts are supposed to be. Protest and return if it’s successful.
If companies know they won’t ever recover from the mistake, why walk it back?
Damage@feddit.it 5 months ago
And they sold the list of people who cancelled to the US government!
hansolo@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Wooooah, there, buckaroo. Gonna need a citation for that.
Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world 5 months ago
The fact that you need a /s makes me very sad.
reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
It may seem like a small percentage loss when talking dollar for dollar subscription loss vs Disneys massive revenue, but the scarier thing for their board of directors is damage to their brand.
The thought that a situation like this could cause any long a lasting or irreparable harm to the iconic mouse ears in any way would make keep them awake at night.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Disney has been trying to keep thier streaming alive, despite the massive costs maintaining one(paying all those actors and studios it aint cheap) which is why you see declining quality in the shows and movies.
hansolo@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Streaming services are very sensitive to the ups and downs of anything that’s a standard deviation of from normal. They’re too new to have 10+ years of data to fall back on, so the same overreactions that canceled Kimmel also uncanceled him because of panicky reactions to repercussions.
dhork@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I wonder what is worth more to ABC/Disney, all those direct subscribers, or these affiliates that are consolidating into two or three big media companies?
This might be the beginning of the death of the affiliate model. What would happen if Sinclair simply stopped affiliating with ABC altogether? They own enough stations that they can do their own thing. Would it matter if there is no ABC station in Mobile, Alabama, if people who still want to watch can stream it?
jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
The problem for OTA affiliates/broadcasters is content. Their business model relies on getting eyeballs so they can justify what they charge for advertising. Creating content that your viewers actually want to watch is expensive.
Aside from some of the larger PBS stations, I don’t know that any of the major broadcasters, like Sinclair, have any experience producing their own content. They can throw their little tantrum and refuse to air Kimmel, but that’s just going to hurt them in the short term as advertisers will decide OTA timeslots are not a good investment.
dhork@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Sinclair seems to have some experience producing their own Fantasy shows (masquerading as News Content). They don’t have to put in that much effort to capture the attention of the MAGA crowd.
original_reader@lemmy.zip 5 months ago
Is there unpaid subscriptions?
snooggums@piefed.world 5 months ago
Some subscriptions are part of a package. Like my cable internet package includes a 'free' Disney subscription that I can't cancel.
free with purchase of course
gary@piefed.world 5 months ago
Almost everyone I know who cancelled their subscription is happily renewing it now that Kimmel is back on the air. I'm sticking with donating to PBS every month instead.
Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 months ago
Let them know that I said that they are spineless for renewing
teejay@lemmy.world 5 months ago
We’re not. We were halfway out the door already with the lack of good content and increasing prices. This just gave us a needed push to actually cancel. We won’t resubscribe.
gary@piefed.world 5 months ago
That's how I feel about it too. Literally nothing I wanted to watch over there anyway. I'm not missing anything.
MyOpinion@lemmy.today 5 months ago
Don’t roll over for the Orange Turd or you will pay the price.
limer@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
The anti Trump forces saw their power, revelled in it, and called it a day. It will not be applied to other companies.
It’s like the nationwide protests
chetradley@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Go woke or go broke 💪
mrslt@lemmy.world 5 months ago
I like “Go fash, lose cash.”
Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one 5 months ago
I unsubscribed. Wasn’t really even using it.
JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
[deleted]Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 5 months ago
I suspect they’d have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days.
calliope@retrolemmy.com 5 months ago
A previously-posted Gizmodo article said
Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period
Which I thought was very useful.
shalafi@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Kabas is the reporter and I still haven’t seen where they got that number.
tyler@programming.dev 5 months ago
It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million.
cygnus@lemmy.ca 5 months ago
If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.
This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. variety.com/…/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-nu…
Eq0@literature.cafe 5 months ago
Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved?
just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Surprised it was only that many. Needs to triple.
bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml 5 months ago
Fuck Disney, I even got my sister to change their vacation plans over it
FireWire400@lemmy.world 5 months ago
Oh no! Anyway…
KiloGex@lemmy.world 5 months ago
And then they raised the price, so anyone who goes back sheet this is punished for leaving in the first place. Screw Disney.