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Submitted ⁨⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.engadget.com/entertainment/streaming/disney-reportedly-lost-17-million-paid-subscribers-in-the-week-after-suspending-kimmel-201615937.html?guccounter=1

Disney reportedly lost 1.7 million paid subscribers in the week after suspending Kimmel

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  • sudo@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Liberals make up more of the consumer class than conservatives. That highly marketable strata of people that have disposable income tend to be affluent, college educated liberals. Its why they keep winning the culture war and it drives conservatives insane.

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Oh no! Anyway…

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    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      How do you use firewire on modem operating systems? I need to know.

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      • tal@olio.cafe ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If it’s Linux, sounds like it should just work out of box, at least for a while longer.

        https://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-to-support-firewire-until-2029

        Linux to Support Firewire Until 2029

        The ancient connectivity standard still has years of life ahead of it.

        Firewire is getting a new lease on life and will have extended support up to 2029 on Linux operating systems. Phoronix reports that a Linux maintainer Takashi Sakamoto has volunteered to oversee the Firewire subsystem for Linux during this time, and will work on Firewire’s core functions and sound drivers for the remaining few that still use the connectivity standard.

        Further, Takashi Sakamoto says that his work will help users transition from Firewire to more modern technology standards (like perhaps USB 2.0). Apparently, Firewire still has a dedicated fanbase that is big enough to warrant six more years of support. But we suspect this will be the final stretch for Firewire support, surrounding Linux operating systems. Once 2029 comes around, there’s a good chance Firewire will finally be dropped from the Linux kernel altogether.

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      • datavoid@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I bought a PCIe card for FireWire slots, there might be a usb converter though. On windows it worked out of the box, and I used WinDV for importing video.

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Nice. None of those “go woke go broke” boycotts ever actually materialize into meaningful business pressure.

    Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.

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    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Cracker Barrel is so far in the red that the logo redesign was a hail mary move. They couldn’t afford to lose the tiny number of people who still frequent their trash diners.

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  • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    The total allegedly includes subscriptions to Disney+, Hulu and ESPN. That falloff reportedly marked a 436 percent increase over the usual churn rate for the service.

    So 317.000 users would have cancelled anyway and the actual protest was 1.3 million. If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.

    Summarizing, they lost the 0,6%. Much more that what I expected, but hardly noticeable. I’d love to know how many already subscribed back.

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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million.

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      • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Calculate the 0.6% of your wage: that’s what $300M is for them.

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    • calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      A previously-posted Gizmodo article said

      Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period

      Which I thought was very useful.

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Kabas is the reporter and I still haven’t seen where they got that number.

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    • cygnus@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.

      This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. variety.com/…/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-nu…

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      • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Yes, but I looked up Disney+, Hulu and ESPN combined.

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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I suspect they’d have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days.

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    • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved?

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      • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        No idea, but of Disney+, Hulu and ESPN, only Disney+ is available in the EU and it gets only a small fraction of the market.

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  • MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Don’t roll over for the Orange Turd or you will pay the price.

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    • chetradley@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Go woke or go broke 💪

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      • mrslt@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        I like “Go fash, lose cash.”

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    • limer@lemmy.ml ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The anti Trump forces saw their power, revelled in it, and called it a day. It will not be applied to other companies.

      It’s like the nationwide protests

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  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So far.

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      tbh, I expect a lot of subscribers to resub sooner than later. Sadly

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    And they sold the list of people who cancelled to the US government!

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Wooooah, there, buckaroo. Gonna need a citation for that.

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      • Damage@feddit.it ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        it’s a joke

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      • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The fact that you need a /s makes me very sad.

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  • reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    It may seem like a small percentage loss when talking dollar for dollar subscription loss vs Disneys massive revenue, but the scarier thing for their board of directors is damage to their brand.

    The thought that a situation like this could cause any long a lasting or irreparable harm to the iconic mouse ears in any way would make keep them awake at night.

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Streaming services are very sensitive to the ups and downs of anything that’s a standard deviation of from normal. They’re too new to have 10+ years of data to fall back on, so the same overreactions that canceled Kimmel also uncanceled him because of panicky reactions to repercussions.

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  • bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Fuck Disney, I even got my sister to change their vacation plans over it

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      I hope she’s not mad that it worked!

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  • gary@piefed.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Almost everyone I know who cancelled their subscription is happily renewing it now that Kimmel is back on the air. I'm sticking with donating to PBS every month instead.

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    • teejay@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      We’re not. We were halfway out the door already with the lack of good content and increasing prices. This just gave us a needed push to actually cancel. We won’t resubscribe.

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      • gary@piefed.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        That's how I feel about it too. Literally nothing I wanted to watch over there anyway. I'm not missing anything.

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    • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨7⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Let them know that I said that they are spineless for renewing

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Surprised it was only that many. Needs to triple.

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  • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I unsubscribed. Wasn’t really even using it.

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  • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I wonder what is worth more to ABC/Disney, all those direct subscribers, or these affiliates that are consolidating into two or three big media companies?

    This might be the beginning of the death of the affiliate model. What would happen if Sinclair simply stopped affiliating with ABC altogether? They own enough stations that they can do their own thing. Would it matter if there is no ABC station in Mobile, Alabama, if people who still want to watch can stream it?

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    • jubilationtcornpone@sh.itjust.works ⁨23⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      The problem for OTA affiliates/broadcasters is content. Their business model relies on getting eyeballs so they can justify what they charge for advertising. Creating content that your viewers actually want to watch is expensive.

      Aside from some of the larger PBS stations, I don’t know that any of the major broadcasters, like Sinclair, have any experience producing their own content. They can throw their little tantrum and refuse to air Kimmel, but that’s just going to hurt them in the short term as advertisers will decide OTA timeslots are not a good investment.

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  • original_reader@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Is there unpaid subscriptions?

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    • snooggums@piefed.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Some subscriptions are part of a package. Like my cable internet package includes a 'free' Disney subscription that I can't cancel.

      free with purchase of course

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