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Submitted ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨mesamunefire@piefed.social⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.engadget.com/entertainment/streaming/disney-reportedly-lost-17-million-paid-subscribers-in-the-week-after-suspending-kimmel-201615937.html?guccounter=1

Disney reportedly lost 1.7 million paid subscribers in the week after suspending Kimmel

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  • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Oh no! Anyway…

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    • SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How do you use firewire on modem operating systems? I need to know.

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      • tal@olio.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        If it’s Linux, sounds like it should just work out of box, at least for a while longer.

        https://www.tomshardware.com/news/linux-to-support-firewire-until-2029

        Linux to Support Firewire Until 2029

        The ancient connectivity standard still has years of life ahead of it.

        Firewire is getting a new lease on life and will have extended support up to 2029 on Linux operating systems. Phoronix reports that a Linux maintainer Takashi Sakamoto has volunteered to oversee the Firewire subsystem for Linux during this time, and will work on Firewire’s core functions and sound drivers for the remaining few that still use the connectivity standard.

        Further, Takashi Sakamoto says that his work will help users transition from Firewire to more modern technology standards (like perhaps USB 2.0). Apparently, Firewire still has a dedicated fanbase that is big enough to warrant six more years of support. But we suspect this will be the final stretch for Firewire support, surrounding Linux operating systems. Once 2029 comes around, there’s a good chance Firewire will finally be dropped from the Linux kernel altogether.

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      • FireWire400@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I have to confess that I don’t actually use FireWire, nor have I ever used it to transfer anything. I just thought the port looked cool…

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      • datavoid@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I bought a PCIe card for FireWire slots, there might be a usb converter though. On windows it worked out of the box, and I used WinDV for importing video.

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  • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • tyler@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It’s noticeable when you look at the price of the subscription. That’s almost $300 million.

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      • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • calliope@retrolemmy.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      A previously-posted Gizmodo article said

      Kabas reports that 1.7 million was 436% above a subscriber loss that’s typical for the same period

      Which I thought was very useful.

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Kabas is the reporter and I still haven’t seen where they got that number.

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    • cygnus@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      If my googling is right, in total there are ~207 million subscribers.

      This says 128M, which seems far more plausible. variety.com/…/disney-stop-reporting-subscriber-nu…

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      • JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
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    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I suspect they’d have lost a lot more if this dragged on longer, he was back in a few days.

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    • Eq0@literature.cafe ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Consider that the full number is world wide. How many of them are US based or US involved?

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  • MyOpinion@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Don’t roll over for the Orange Turd or you will pay the price.

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    • chetradley@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Go woke or go broke 💪

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      • mrslt@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I like “Go fash, lose cash.”

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    • limer@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The anti Trump forces saw their power, revelled in it, and called it a day. It will not be applied to other companies.

      It’s like the nationwide protests

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  • sudo@programming.dev ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Liberals make up more of the consumer class than conservatives. That highly marketable strata of people that have disposable income tend to be affluent, college educated liberals. Its why they keep winning the culture war and it drives conservatives insane.

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    • hayvan@feddit.nl ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, and most of that consumer base needs to stop tolerating quite a bit of reactionary bullshit (yes, American “conservatives” aren’t conservative, they don’t keep status quo, they actively destroy it for regression, they are reactionary).

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      • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Conservatives have always been reactionary. This isn’t a US thing it’s a global thing, they don’t want to keep things the same they want to return to some rose-tinted version of history that never existed. They’re the ones that call themselves conservative.

        But you can’t call everyone you disagree with a delusional idiot even if they are, because the insult loses its power. So we might as well call them by then preferred name

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      the problem is these corps/media is controlled mostly by conservative ceos, which will lick TRUMPs boot anytime, they are fickle and untrustworthy, but the gop is the most consistent in not interfering with “unethical business pratices”, plus they also use these media/ to issue propaganda in many forms, like you said to institute culture wars.

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      • SnoringEarthworm@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        Corporations don’t have stable political identities.

        They’ll promote trans people if it makes them money.

        And then sell trans people to ICE the next quarter if it makes them even more money.

        And then use a shell company to sell trans merch to the people boycotting them.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It also helps that the conservatives constantly shoot themselves in their foot by defining their own reality. They decide for example that people don’t like “the gays” but really it’s only the right wing thugs that really have an opinion. The moderate conservatives aren’t bothered one way or the other. So now they’re trying to sell policies to subjugate a group of people that probably only about quarter of their membership really care about.

      It is really obvious with Trump, they just invent entire new things to be mad about, like this Tylenol thing. That just came out of thin air because they couldn’t think of anything else to distract people with, but even their own supporters don’t really care about it because until about 3 weeks ago it wasn’t a claim that anyone was making.

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  • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Nice. None of those “go woke go broke” boycotts ever actually materialize into meaningful business pressure.

    Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.

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    • buddascrayon@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Cracker Barrel is so far in the red that the logo redesign was a hail mary move. They couldn’t afford to lose the tiny number of people who still frequent their trash diners.

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    • Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Unless you’re fucking Cracker Barrel.

      Which was manufactured outrage, spawned by a few Shitter posts which were then amplified by a huge bot network.

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      • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        by russia too.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      lol they are already on another “cracker barrel trend” right now, about a music performer making maga mad. also CB situation was fueled mostly by a certain propaganda source.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Most CEOs are generally bright enough to look at the sales data rather than all of the online rhetoric and if the sales data isn’t going down they can ignore everything else.

      Everyone knows the right are terrible at organising themselves, they need a central figure in lieu of that they never achieve anything. When they try and boycott something it generally fails because most of them will continue to use the service while declaring loudly online that their not. The right don’t have actual moral values, other than selfishness.

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  • nothrone@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This just shows that the whole “muh, it is the corporations fault for the climate emergency, there is nothing I can do about it!” is a load of BS. You can vote with your wallet. Become anti-consumption.

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    • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That’s an incredibly naive and misinformed opinion you’ve got there. Most of the companies polluting are not businesses that members of the public buy services from. The vast majority of the largest polluters are business to business providers, Joe public can’t do anything about that.

      Just look up Monsanto, if we took them out the total pollution worldwide would probably drop by about 50% but they sell to farmers, so you might say well don’t buy from farmers that buy from Monsanto but the problem is all farmers buy from Monsanto, so there isn’t another option.

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    • yakko@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      It takes two to tango, they say. Corporations have a lot more wallet to vote with, as it were - but we are not powerless or blameless when we support them out of complacency.

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    • Tattorack@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What a terribly stupid and wrong take.

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    • monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I was trying to buy food that wasn’t covered in plastic. I don’t have an option. I have looked for butchers, bakers and general food items that sell without plastic wrapping and it just isn’t feasible.

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  • Damage@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And they sold the list of people who cancelled to the US government!

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Wooooah, there, buckaroo. Gonna need a citation for that.

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      • Damage@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        it’s a joke

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      • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The fact that you need a /s makes me very sad.

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  • reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It may seem like a small percentage loss when talking dollar for dollar subscription loss vs Disneys massive revenue, but the scarier thing for their board of directors is damage to their brand.

    The thought that a situation like this could cause any long a lasting or irreparable harm to the iconic mouse ears in any way would make keep them awake at night.

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    • hansolo@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Streaming services are very sensitive to the ups and downs of anything that’s a standard deviation of from normal. They’re too new to have 10+ years of data to fall back on, so the same overreactions that canceled Kimmel also uncanceled him because of panicky reactions to repercussions.

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    • Tollana1234567@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Disney has been trying to keep thier streaming alive, despite the massive costs maintaining one(paying all those actors and studios it aint cheap) which is why you see declining quality in the shows and movies.

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  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    So far.

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    • SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      tbh, I expect a lot of subscribers to resub sooner than later. Sadly

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      • Jourei@lemmy.wtf ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        I think this is how boycotts are supposed to be. Protest and return if it’s successful.

        If companies know they won’t ever recover from the mistake, why walk it back?

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  • bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Fuck Disney, I even got my sister to change their vacation plans over it

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    • explodicle@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I hope she’s not mad that it worked!

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  • rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It hurt itself in its confusion doing exactly as it was told by the orange diaper man

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    • PhAzE@lemmy.ca ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Vance was recently on tv saying carr isn’t responsible because “look, Jimmy is still on tv, so what’d Carr do wrong?”, trying to sweep it under the rug.

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      • ziggurat@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        They were not successful in their goal when breaking the law, so this argument is that therefor they are innocent

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  • gary@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Almost everyone I know who cancelled their subscription is happily renewing it now that Kimmel is back on the air. I'm sticking with donating to PBS every month instead.

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    • teejay@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      We’re not. We were halfway out the door already with the lack of good content and increasing prices. This just gave us a needed push to actually cancel. We won’t resubscribe.

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      • gary@piefed.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        That's how I feel about it too. Literally nothing I wanted to watch over there anyway. I'm not missing anything.

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    • Marshezezz@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Let them know that I said that they are spineless for renewing

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Surprised it was only that many. Needs to triple.

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  • Sibshops@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I unsubscribed. Wasn’t really even using it.

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  • KiloGex@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    And then they raised the price, so anyone who goes back sheet this is punished for leaving in the first place. Screw Disney.

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  • loruuu@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    ive been trying to get ppl to boycott Disney plus for Palestine for over 2 yrs and white man does it in a week

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    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Palestine isn’t American, it’s some far off place that most people have no connection to, no care for or about. And people generally have enough fucking problems in their own life to care about a place they likely will die before visiting or giving two shits about.

      While Kimmel himself may not matter to many. The situation does directly affect the world and problem many Americans are worried about. It’s a literal representation of the turmoil that fills many Americans minds.

      Not to mention Kimmel is a famous person that people know and have heard of. So his problem actually makes it to the ears of those that will resonate with the problem that his situation is in relation to.

      You on the other hand are a literal nobody by comparison that no one but yourself and your immediate group will give any weight to your words.

      Not to mention the hell does Palestine have to do with Disney…? That’s an extremely tenuous connection.

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    • SoftNoodle@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, let’s add racism to this too!

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    • GaMEChld@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Disney directly acted against Kimmel, caving to political pressure from the government, a wanton act of government censorship. What did Disney do to Palestine? Bomb them?

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    • cyan_mess@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I feel this, I’ve tried to get cis people to go to protests and mobilize for trans rights for years, and crickets, but they manage monthly marches and even a general strike (in my country) for Palestine since Oct '23. People usually have the capacity to organize, they just don’t think most issues are worth it.

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  • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I wonder what is worth more to ABC/Disney, all those direct subscribers, or these affiliates that are consolidating into two or three big media companies?

    This might be the beginning of the death of the affiliate model. What would happen if Sinclair simply stopped affiliating with ABC altogether? They own enough stations that they can do their own thing. Would it matter if there is no ABC station in Mobile, Alabama, if people who still want to watch can stream it?

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  • original_reader@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Is there unpaid subscriptions?

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  • purplestar@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Good.

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