cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37265606
The only reason I got a Win11 computer at work is that the new box came with Win11 preinstalled.
Most work is still done on an aging Win7 box and my Linux laptop.
Submitted 1 day ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
https://htxt.co.za/2025/09/microsoft-still-cant-convince-folks-to-upgrade-to-windows-11/
cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/37265606
The only reason I got a Win11 computer at work is that the new box came with Win11 preinstalled.
Most work is still done on an aging Win7 box and my Linux laptop.
Oh I thought Windows was discontinued after Vista failed miserably.
At least I haven’t used it since then, and it’s completely irrelevant to me.
Why others keep using it IDK, must be some kind of masochist tendencies.
Yea, people don’t use windows these days anymore, they just use iOS and Android.
Seriously, no joke, my parents have never actually used a computer. They just have a glorified pocket social media machine basically.
I thought Win2K was peak Windows, but I begrudgingly got comfortable with XP (using the classic Windows theme) then Win 7 after they ironed most of Vista's kinks out.
Been on Linux since then.
But it would be unfair to say that masochist tendencies aren't a requirement to be a Linux system owner.
All systems require some level of that. It's just Linux has been rushing towards "less masochism" and Windows even quicker towards "more", and we find ourselves at that sweet spot where they've the same level of requirement.
Frankly, I'd prefer this sweet spot to be more towards "less", so I'm hoping Linux continues its trend.
Linux as my main since 2005, I dual booted for a couple of years to play games, because gaming on Linux was too limited.
Now gaming on Linux is amazing IMO.
But yes every system requires some level of masochism, I guess we could call Windows the OS of choice for the more advanced masochists. 😋
Hot take here, but I think both Linux and Windows suck. I’m just picking the poison most suited to my needs on each computer
then get a mac or bsd?
Microsoft’s new OS has never been a concern of mine. I still have a windows XP, Vista, and windows 7 PC’s. They all work fine but zero security updates of course. You don’t need to upgrade your OS and most people will simply just keep windows 10 instead up buying a new computer.
I’m just going to setup dual boot with linux since i have some modding and custom software that only works on windows.
VR issues put me off and honestly Win10 20H2 was cancerous enough frankly, 1903/1703 was as much as I could tolerate the endless bugs, design issues, fundamental flaws, it’s a house of cards that utterly collapses under the weight of ads and general enshittification.
You say Linux is complex but idk, it’s pretty intuitive for basic use to setup and install, it’s just customizable so people make it a hobby, and as it’s fully open source, people who are into computers like to learn how it works, because unlike windows, they can do so with some certainty.
On Windows the sheer amount of software it takes to make the beast keep back is unreal, OldNewExplorer, ClassicShell/OpenShell/StartAllBack++ ($$$), RetroBar, WinAeroTweaker, Windhawk, SecureUxThemePatcher, DWMBlurGlass, Microsoft-Activation-Scripts/KMSLiteAuto, SystemInformer/ProcessHacker2, BootICE, HackBGRT etc etc.
The list goes on, with you having to subject yourself to GPO Editing to disable updates, and the horrors of Powershell syntax (yuck! Scripting languages shouldn’t be a shell! Shell languages shouldn’t have an object oriented tumor!) if you’re a power user or a good friend to someone who isn’t and you want to go in there and Get-AppxPackage | Select yada yada to uninstall the assorted Microsoft PUPs, Adware and other malware that comes pre-installed like Edge, Cortana and the new gippity Cortana (whatever it’s called), “The Xbox app” whatever that means with its horrid overlay it puts over directx apps like some sort of necromanced GFWL etc.
In other words
Dunning-kruger effect on full display right here.
Linux, as an alternative, is insane. Just setting up the OS itself is another fucking hobby.
Great OS, too bad most people aren’t savvy enough to tweak minor settings.
daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
I can’t wait for what comes first. The claudication and predictable extended support or the wave of malware paralyzing half the world over unsecured devices.
Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 hours ago
I think the latter is more likely. The former will only occur once MS is compelled by something that will force them into support mode, like a government or a lawsuit.