cross-posted from: programming.dev/post/35948067
*Glares at work computer
WELL…? WE’RE WAITING.gif
Microsoft's latest Windows 11 24H2 update breaks SSDs/HDDs, may corrupt your data
Submitted 2 days ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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zebidiah@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 1 day ago
God damn, after ~20 years of being off Windows reading about problem after problem on each and every update is exhausting.
How do you all (Windows users) deal with this shit?
sykaster@feddit.nl 1 day ago
I’ve never had an issue of this gravity on Windows. I use Linux and it has its issues as well. Stability is not why I use Linux lmao
Cethin@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
The amazing thing about Linux is there are distros for any purpose. If you want stability there are distros focused on that. Yeah, the popular ones are often bleeding edge, or near bleeding edge, but you don’t have to use one that’s using the latest updates.
nekbardrun@lemmy.world 22 hours ago
as far as I know, Debian is the “gold standard” for stable linux to the point of being one of the most famous distros used on servers as well.
Exceptions are using unstable/testing versions of debian or accounting for an windows program to just work perfectly under wine (but that is a microsoft-linux integration which MS almost always wants to not happen)
474D@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Stability is why I use an atomic distro
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Most people don’t have this issue. You are only reading about the less than 1%. Per usual, everything posted her is overblown and the linux trolls feed on it.
Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wait 3 weeks before applying updates instead of being a guinea pig. It’s usually enough time for things like this to be caught and withdrawn by MS.
Pandasdontfly@slrpnk.net 12 hours ago
I delayed the 24h2 update as long as Windows physically let me which was like a month or two I think? After that delay ended my only option was to download cause it was popping up in an intrusive way every single hour… God I hate windows so much.
wholeofthemoon@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Because I haven’t had these issues in 20+ years? 🤡
frongt@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Same way as I do on Linux. There was a post a few weeks back about an Arch update breaking vlc if you don’t manually install a new optional dependency after an update split the package.
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Arch has always broke. Arch will always break.
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
This is the first Windows update that has significantly altered how my daily driver laptop works (read: for the worse).
It’s too inconvenient to use a Windows computer anymore. I’m switching to Linux
HalifaxJones@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Haven’t updated to windows 11 yet and probably won’t. Just gonna wait until I can afford a new PC then learn how to install Linux
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
There’s nothing to learn. Mint and Fedora were click click done.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 1 day ago
By not using newest microsoft stuff. I’m always few years late to their next windows.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 1 day ago
bashing the executable
three instances of Battlefield 6 load up
“ss-seethe, linux-turds!!”
gpu explodes from poor driver implementation
“it’s s-supposed to do that!”
EmpatheticTeddyBear@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Crying, sniffling, more crying, over eating, crying some more, and existential dread. Then I go to work and pretend it will just magical go away, become delusional, go home, and start the process all over again.
I might need therapy.
SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 23 hours ago
Please hit my work computer plz plz plz
derpgon@programming.dev 13 hours ago
Just update, find a script to repeatedly write a 50gb file filled with garbage, and pray it kills your drive.
KillerWhale@orcas.enjoying.yachts 5 hours ago
I know this is mostly a joke but most corporate security monitor the running scripts
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I am using three drives on that list. Uninstalled KB5063878 and blocked updates for over a month.
floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 days ago
I’m using several of them too, but the update refuses to uninstall. Oh well, fingers crossed eh? Thanks MIcrosoft.
Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Hmm, mine uninstalled without issue but I haven’t yet fully rebooted. Might still get an error at that point. Fingers crossed.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
windows quality has seemingly took a nosedive after 7 and never recovered.
zymagoras777@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
I thought 10 was fine too, didn’t like the new menu bullshit though. I use Arch by the way.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 14 hours ago
10 was the last windows version i dailied on my personal machine. the whole update fiasco has made me lose work, and was the writing on the wall for shitty things that came after.
mrbutterscotch@feddit.org 1 day ago
This Post was the final straw for me. Just spent the afternoon setting up Linux Mint Mate and it’s working well so far!
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 hours ago
I so much want to, but the programs I run are partly windows only. I don’t know how to switch yet. Next to that, I tried Linux once but was unable to reach netwerk drives from my NAS. I tried everything, none of the solutions I found actually worked. I seem to have a curse running into issues no one else had. Struggling my whole life with that. Today I spent the entire day fixing Kodi, which suddenly stopped working. None of the solutions on internet worked. I managed to fix it my own way, eventually. Just to play a video without losing my “videos watched”.
MS is working hard to force me though. I’m almost as far as to say goodbye to apps I’ve used my whole life. Like Directory Opus for example.
bufalo1973@europe.pub 6 hours ago
Have you tried some of the dual panel file managers that run on Linux? What Directory Opus has that is not in other FM?
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
Yeah, at some point ‘cabt on linux’ becomes synonymous with ‘cant’
synapse1278@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Just vibecoding a kernel module, nothing out of the ordinary at Microsoft.
regedit@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Welp, Windows 11 is going to make me quit my sysadmin job of 15+ years, after all. I already refuse to use it at home but have no options at work. Bet dollars to donuts this was some sort of vibe coder AI fuck up we’ll never be able to confirm.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Again, why are people paying money for this bullshit?
This is just normal and on par for Microsoft. When was the last time they didn’t fix a security issue because they didn’t wanted the bad publicity, causing the US government to be hacked?
Oohh, we will never do it again, pinky promise!
Microsoft’s evil but oh my fucking god, they’re so incompetent that they can’t even be evil without fucking shit up
Install Linux already,.be done with the nonsense
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Every thread has one Linux bro, stumbling around dazed and confused, still searching to understand why people use a different OS. Always asking “Why do people even use that?” Ignorant of the litany of reasons the real world behaves the way it does.
disco@lemdro.id [bot] 1 day ago
There’s a lot more than one of us here, “bro”
outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 hours ago
I understand why people use different operating systems. Ill judge you for mac os but i kinda get it. I think slackware or something works for some use cases.
Windows is just ijsane though. You’re insane for using it.
pogmommy@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Just the one? You block the rest already?
psycho_driver@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yeah I remember when Linux Update did this . . . oh wait, no I don’t.
notarobot@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
I think I do but I’m not sure. I seem to remember some years back when a kernel version was released and due to a bug on either a driver or a filesystem, as soon as you started writing it would override the partition table or something like that
notarobot@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
May have been this one
notarobot@lemmy.zip 11 hours ago
I think I do but I’m not sure. I seem to remember some years back when a kernel version was released and due to a bug on either a driver or a filesystem, as soon as you started writing it would override the partition table or something like that
yesman@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I was able to roll-back this update. But my computer is still running Windows. Help!
floo@retrolemmy.com 1 day ago
dil@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Start looking into desktop environments, everyones quick to suggest distros, but de imo is more what matters day to day, most distros just work and will help you grab the same stuff in different background ways and/or with different terminal commands.
They should all have de options or have community alternatives of them that come with a certain de like kde or gnome.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Solid advice!
And remember that “DE-hopping” is much easier than distro hopping, as you can install multiple and try them out without reinstalling your system.
singletona@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Oh look a whole new reason to avoid windows 11.
LongboardingLad@lemmy.world 1 day ago
This was the push I needed to get off Windows completely. Some update broke Bluetooth connectivity. It’s penguins all the way down for me now.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 2 days ago
What does NG Lv 1 mean?
doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.de 2 days ago
I’ve read in another article that NG Lv 1 means that the drive is recoverable and NG Lv 2 that the drive is unrecoverable.
regedit@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
NG Lv 3 means you no longer have a computer.
Lexam@lemmy.world 2 days ago
All of my computers are working just fine.
regedit@lemmy.zip 1 day ago
Is your drive 60% or more full and have you tried to transfer something 50gb or larger? From what I saw, those are some of the triggers.
Lexam@lemmy.world 21 hours ago
No but my drive uses Linux not Windows. I wonder if that helps.
EvilEdgelord@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
Same, thankfully 🫣
kayohtie@pawb.social 1 day ago
I haven’t had disk issues, am running a 980 Pro SSD currently, but I’ve definitely noticed other weirdness that sure feels more like that? Half-Life crashing repeatedly in map loads sometimes succeeding fine and other times not. Firefox broke wholesale until I reinstalled it and even then had to do a refresh to fully solve it. I haven’t seen anything else weird thankfully but this definitely has me concerned and glad I’m backing up with a very long rolling period just in case. Gonna uninstall this update for sure.
FellowEnt@sh.itjust.works 20 hours ago
Just a heads up in case you haven’t updated firmware on your 980. I wasn’t aware of the problem and lost my c drive a few months back.
serenissi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I don’t understand. writing large amount of data at once breaks nand controller? and how that’s an os issue?
kayohtie@pawb.social 1 day ago
My assumption was it had something to do with the drivers for the controller, and the update flooding it faster than it could take data and not caching everything it couldn’t cram into controller DRAM, causing parts to just get dropped wholesale.
serenissi@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
modern ssds have on board firmware that executes actual nvme (or sata) commands. so it’s possible a bad dma driver can coincide with a firmware bug to result in unexpected behaviour.
darksiderbun@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Maybe has something to do with making assumptions about how the nand controller is going to allocate things across superpages but that is a stupid random guess and also I have no idea why it’s an OS issue but boy do they keep finding ways
serenissi@lemmy.world 1 day ago
os updates write large amount of data to disk at once. especially a highly bloated os like modern windows. whatever the trigger, it’s still faulty nand controller. you can very well cooy a 20G file and see disk is corrupted.
Psythik@lemmy.world 20 hours ago
I’ve never seen my NVME go above 10% usage, so I’m not worried about it.
aesthelete@lemmy.world 2 days ago
And the worst part is even if it succeeds you’re still running Windows.
reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
Even though switching my laptop to Linux was a bit of a pain, especially for other family members, i didn’t regret it at all before. This just makes it even more reassuring as the right move.
Even the programs I had that rely on windoze I just run in wine or in a small vm.
If you can switch, do it!
Brkdncr@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Sounds like shit drives are half of the problem?
Eideen@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You guys still run Windows?!
FauxLiving@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You’d get more downvotes but their SSDs are all corrupted
0ndead@infosec.pub 1 day ago
In the article from yesterday, this was reported by one guy in Japan
DarkCloud@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Yep this is what the early adopters are for. Send those grunts in to get torched and maimed.
MangoPenguin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 hours ago
Is this 100% an OS issue, or a hardware issue just being made apparent by the OS doing something weird?