Right and MS will not lose nothing cus if that
Microsoft no longer permits local Windows 10 accounts if you want Consumer Extended Security Updates — support beyond EOL requires a Microsoft Account link-up even if you pay $30
Submitted 8 months ago by tonytins@pawb.social to technology@lemmy.world
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Keyboard@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Ages ago I suggested installing Linux on my partner’s parents old desktop. It’s still running win10 but it’s pretty slow, likely from a decade of bloat. Probably a HDD too which isn’t going to help. Saying Linux scared them.
Recently they were told it is no longer supported and can’t update to win11. Or some kind of popup like that anyway. They asked if it’s time to replace the machine. This time I said I could put a lightweight OS similar to what a Chromebook has and they are much more interested. Probably also look at sticking a small SSD in there, it’s only used for web browsing.
goatinspace@feddit.org 8 months ago
🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧🐧
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 8 months ago
Luckily Linux Mint still allows local accounts. In fact there is not other option besides just a local account.
seralth@lemmy.world 8 months ago
[deleted]BeardedBlaze@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Installed Bazzite on my main gaming rig two weeks ago. Haven’t booted win10 since, fantastic distro.
eskimofry@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Microsoft is no longer permitted on my PC
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
The fact that the extended coverage is locked behind the windows account paywall is known for a pretty good time already…
Patches@ttrpg.network 8 months ago
They said you could get the account, and 300 good boy points
OR Pay $30
qevlarr@lemmy.world 8 months ago
ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Fuck Windows. Most overrated OS.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
OSChromeOS wannabe.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 8 months ago
“Install Linux, Problem Solved.”
Taalnazi@lemmy.world 8 months ago
There’s a great Linux distro guide here.
Elemental OS if you want a Maclike interface.
According to the guide, Zorin OS would be great for beginners if you want a Microsoft-like interface that’s FOSS.
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Bazzite is pretty close.
SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 8 months ago
Sad that you get downvoted for such a basic request.
The Linux techbros can suck a fat one.
NoodlePoint@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Easy for them, but not everyone else. I’m saying this as someone who’s into PCs, used both OS, fixing them for a very long time, and seen a lot different kinds of userbases. That in my part of the world, while Android is pretty prevalent for smartphones and gaming on them, pirated Windows is still being used for PCs because it’s so familiar for a lot of people, it’s almost the default, but for how long that’s gonna last as Windows is being made more like locked with DRMs and shit like that.
tangycitrus@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It is now. If someone just uses the browser, they wouldn’t really notice if it was Linux. Well, they’ll notice because it would be faster. I have my entire Steam and GOG library setup on Linux and every game I want to play regularly works just fine. Yes there are instances where I’d need to get on the terminal but that’s quite rare.
Railcar8095@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’ve used nothing but vanilla steam for windows games in Linux for a few years.
I think there’s the misconception that, because you can use other things, you HAVE to use other things.
drspawndisaster@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Steam and lutris for non steam games. You literally need to learn one program and navigate one singular menu is another and voila every computer game just kinda works, at least in my experience.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 8 months ago
So use anything but Windows? Got it.
Anti_Iridium@lemmy.world 8 months ago
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
darkreader2636@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
action retro approved solution
iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 months ago
FooBarrington@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What is Pete Davidson doing to that poor soul?
artyom@piefed.social 8 months ago
Yeah I mean how are they going to verify you paid without an associated account
Taldan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
A key, exactly like they did it for decades? Same way they verified you paid forbthat copy of Windows?
JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
As someone who has actually never paid for a Windows key even though I started with Win 98, and I before this Win 10 installation have never genuinely activated any them, I quite easily understand why they don’t do it that way any more. I also do remember back when Windows 7 was going through this exact same thing how trivially easy it was to get those updates without paying - so easy in fact that most people assumed MS did it on purpose just so that people would rather pirate them than run an unpatched installation for three years.
artyom@piefed.social 8 months ago
Don't you need a Windows account to buy a key?
Kolanaki@pawb.social 8 months ago
I mean… I have valid keys for various Windows versions I never paid for 🤷♂️
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 8 months ago
Oh well. I’m just glad I can access all my files on NTFS so I don’t even have to migrate anything.
Maybe reinstall some games, and say no more to others, but that’s the way things be.
sefra1@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
Oh well. I’m just glad I can access all my files on NTFS
Shhh! Don’t give them ideas…
xthexder@l.sw0.com 8 months ago
They’ve already been pushing their idea to prevent this for years. It’s called OneDrive
SeeFerns@programming.dev 8 months ago
My wife has finally agreed to let me install Linux on her laptop after all the shit MS is trying to pull.
This kinda stuff just further cements her decision tbh
the_q@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
“Linux can’t run my cock and ball squeezing app!”
Noerttipertti@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Good thing that Linux can run pretty much everything I want to play. Ckb-new and and Streamdeck-gui still need some finishing touches so that E:D and DCS are identical to old Windows setup, but everything else seems to run without a hitch.
Sabata11792@ani.social 8 months ago
Actually, I been much happier not being able to play League anymore.
NoPanko@feddit.uk 8 months ago
Yeah I realised the only games I cant play on linux are the ones that really don’t respect my privacy/time/wallet so it ended up a net benefit
chortle_tortle@mander.xyz 8 months ago
Never been a better time to try dota 😈
Zacryon@feddit.org 8 months ago
That’s a complicated way of saying that Microsoft recommends switching to Linux. /j
Smoogs@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You joke but As of this last weekend I just did and it was pretty damned free…
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 months ago
This just in, convicted monopoly Microsoft will fuck you over at every conceivable opportunity. Film at 11.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
convicted monopoly
Well that’s a blast from the past. That was neat-o how Mr Boies nailed a conviction and the remedy was … An apology? Was it even that much?
Glad to see Microsoft is successfully building on that crushing no-remedy defeat by doing the same and more. #winning
ripcord@lemmy.world 8 months ago
It was actually significant, and changed them quite a lot for 2 decades. Now they don’t give a shit anymore. But there was an impact.
Woukd have been more significant if Bush admin hadn’t overridden the original judgment to break MS into 3 companies.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
hatred against Microsoft aside, this change doesn’t surprise me. With forcing an account, it allows them to tie your support subscription directly to an account instead of having it be a product key, which is annoying for both the user and the agent in trying to validate whether or not it’s in support or not.
Like, I hate the mentality of needing to use Microsoft services to use a Microsoft system, but this is one of their decisions that I can somewhat understand, it makes it far easier for subscription based setups.
Taldan@lemmy.world 8 months ago
The article explicitly pointed out this extended security patching does not cover support
It’s easy to agree with Microsoft when you don’t bother reading the article and just make up a reason to support their decision
Pika@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’m sorry, but you’re misreading what they mean by support in that article because I did read it. They’re still gonna give support regarding he ESU program as a whole(otherwise they would be sued for fraud), which includes installation, activation, and regressions of the program. What they’re not going to be providing is general technical support which is a different beast, If you would like more information, you can read about it here as well.
It’s easy to blindly hate something When you only see what you want to see…
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
There are a few ways of doing that without harvesting PII . This is just naked disdain for people not hooking up for oneChive overages.
Pika@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
It’s a different system if I understand the article correctly. It looks like its just a Microsoft account not a one drive sub. I’m expecting they are just going to only allow 10 computers per account and then when it hits max it stops getting support on new systems (since updates are involved I doubt they will let you remove devices like with the current activation system). Now I do expect that the payment is the same system, and considering their dark tactics at trying to get you to subscribe and update, I do assume this is going to make it easier to accidentally spend money or subscribe to other services though.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 8 months ago
Microsoft? Ew! No.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 8 months ago
Oh good, M$ won't try to break my machine anymore? Sweet, thanks for giving me a reason to use my local account only.
mang0@lemmy.zip 8 months ago
So Windows 10 LTSC isn’t affected by this?
flux@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I hate Windows. But I have to use Adobe suite. Wine doesn’t play nice. More than 20 mins of trouble shooting I feel is not worth it. I need to be working more than solving issues. Someone point me to how to make Adobe suite work (without hours of troubleshooting) and I’ll join the Linux team.
IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
Tried dual booting?
Linux for personal, Windows for work? I’d personally not mix work and personal on same device. Failing that, same OS.
voodooattack@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Wine doesn’t play nice.
I don’t believe it’s Wine’s fault.
mustbe3to20signs@feddit.org 8 months ago
github.com/winapps-org/winapps This may be what you need.
chickenf622@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’m ignoring you’re requirements and am gonna suggest you use GIMP instead. In all seriousness, you may want to look into a dual boot situation where you have Windows in a partition just big enough to do all the work you need to do. You could also look at VMs, but I’m not sure how well they would play with something that is resource hungry like Adobe products.
flux@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yah. I like Gimp and hate Adobes garbage AI but Adobe files are a requirement for work. I have another computer for Linux stuff but truly wish I could get away.
selokichtli@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
Honestly, Adobe and Microsoft deserve each other. It’s Adobe you should reach to get you a solution, not us, Linux users. As much as we would like to help you, you are caged by Adobe and your industry “standards”.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 months ago
I’m so weirded out that Adobe has a native Linux version of their substance Suite. Only available via steam
I’d love to know what weird skunkworks shenanigans are happening in that Adobe apartment
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 months ago
have to use Adobe suite
You have already been damned. There is no hope.
flux@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Yep. I figured. I receive and deliver files in Adobe. I 've found a few work arounds before but yah it’s a non starter. At least I have a separate computer for daily Linux.
somerandomperson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Passthrough your GPU into a windows VM.
flux@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Ok. This might be interesting option if the lag isnt there. Any links/guides to accomplish this? Thank you.
tekato@lemmy.world 8 months ago
If your PC doesn’t support Windows 11 then it makes sense to switch to Linux. But staying on an EOL OS when you could upgrade is plain stupid.
scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I’ve tried to use 11 multiple times in VMs and other peoples computers and I just hate that awful shit. It’s the biggest downgrade since 8 and 8.1
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 8 months ago
Windows 11 is hardly an upgrade.
Asafum@feddit.nl 8 months ago
If they still insist on shoving recall down our throats I refuse to downgrade to 11.
DonutsRMeh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
At this point, I’m starting not to feel bad for people who put themselves through this shit. Using windows nowadays is like staying in an abusive relationship while you have an actual chance to get out, then complaining about it. Linux works no problem. And if a software/hardware vendor refuses to bring it to Linux, then you vote with your wallet. We need to let go of a bit of our love for “convenience” and try to be uncomfortable a tiny bit. Be a tiny bit inconvenienced.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You should have sympathy for people in abusive relationships. Your judgmental attitude is ridiculous in both respects.
wetbeardhairs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 months ago
Coincidentally I no longer support windows machines in my home.
dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No it doesn’t.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Why does anyone use windows?
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 8 months ago
Now is the time to spread your wings and try linux as a replacement for windows!
RedFrank24@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I mean… It’s not being turned off. You can still use Windows 10 if you want to, it’s just Microsoft don’t want to keep pushing security updates to it, and they’re like “Well if you want continued security updates you’re gonna have to sign in and pay for them”.
You can always go without those updates.