NSFW on Lemmy

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• schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  “All” means all. I suggest not using “all” but subscribing to things you actually want to see.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    This is a recurring response, so forgive me for hijacking your comment to write this again.

    /all is where we make our first impression to the world. For a lot of people /all is where (on a still growing platform) people go to discover. I don’t think having an additional “soft NSFW” filter would be a bad thing.

    There’s a reason most clients have an NSFW filter in their settings.

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    • HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Go to your Settings, uncheck the “Show NSFW content box”.

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    • Nima@leminal.space ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      i don’t see nsfw in /all cause you can just turn off NSFW content in settings, dude.

      easy as pie. your “soft NSFW” filter is baked in.

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• sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The subscription tab exists for this very reason. Stop being a selfish prick and trying to curate /ALL

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  • hono4kami@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No! Those who posts unmarked NSFW are the ones that should stop being a selfish prick and mark it as NSFW

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    • remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      The examples OP is giving aren’t even NSFW though, so no tag is warranted.

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  • Vinny_93@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    You’re somewhat correct of course but the NSFW tag exists for a reason. If there is one entire category of /all you can just filter out due to lack of interest, it should be stuff like that. Maybe at some point we’ll also get an ‘AI’ tag.

    The pro of being able to ‘safely’, for lack of a better term, browse /all is being able to discover stuff that you are not subscribed to, stuff you might not find otherwise.

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    • Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      And I think everyone here can agree that any of these subs that are focused on explicit material should absolutely be pressured into setting the sub NSFW.

      The part that has people against the OP is that he’s claiming a girl in a relatively modest bikini should be flagged NSFW, and that a sub for non-explicit anime pics should have to adopt the NSFW label, which seems excessive to me.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I have nsfow content blocked. Because I don’t want porn in my feed.

      I DO want the anime girls though.

      Are you suggesting I should deal with a feed full porn?

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• rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Stop browsing by /all. The firehose will always have content that is of dubious categorization. Instead of trying to change the whole world to conform to your tastes, curate your communities and leave others be.

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  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I don’t disagree, and it’d be really nice if people were better about tagging things like scantily clad yuri as NSFW. Even if there’s no naughty bits, I’d just really appreciate being able to browse for new linux communities while having questionable stuff come up as blurred thumbnails. I don’t want it gone, I just want tagging guidelines to be followed.

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’d just really appreciate being able to browse for new linux communities in public while having questionable stuff come up as blurred thumbnails

      Sorry, I understand that it would be nice if others did the right thing all the time, but we can not reasonably expect this to work at any larger scale.

      Besides, how many new linux communities are popping up every day that it makes more important for you to be browsing by /all? It seems like a bad workflow and really poor ergonomics to rely on /all for content discovery when you know what type of groups you can search for.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’m not trying to conform the world to my taste. Porn like stuff makes the platform less appealing in general.

    All is where we make our first impression to the world. All is where (on a still growing platform) people go to discover. I don’t think having an additional “soft NSFW” filter would be a bad thing.

    There’s a reason most clients have an NSFW filter in their settings.

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    • onslaught545@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Porn like stuff makes the platform less appealing in general

      That’s literally your taste in content. I’m sure there’s plenty of people who find porn like stuff more appealing.

      Also, All isn’t the first impression, it’s almost always your instance feed that is the default.

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    • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Porn like stuff

      Which one, exactly? A woman showing a nipple? Artistic renditions of men in classic statues? A furry? A LGBTQ person existing?

      That’s how it begins. We’ve already seen how it ends.

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• wjs018@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I mean...that doesn't really seem that bad? Also, asking for the whole community to be nsfw is a wild overreaction looking at the other pictures in the community.

  If you browse the all feed, expect to see some things you don't like/enjoy. It's a fire hose of content by design. Learn to curate your subscribed feed and stick to it. Frankly, lemmy doesn't have great filters/blocks to do what you want, and expecting the whole rest of the internet to abide by such strict standards of nsfw isn't going to happen.

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  • rimu@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    PieFed has a "Hide posts in communities with these words in their name" filter for exactly this scenario.

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    • baconmonsta@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That function doesn't seem to function properly btw. I have tried with "meme" and "politics" and communities with those words in them still keep popping into my feed on PieFed.

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I can’t believe y’all 🤣

    This is clearly a mostly non offensive example.

    Would you like me to head into my feed and find some furry porn not marked nsfw? Just send me your work address. 🙄

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• JayleneSlide@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  That’s your example of softcore porn? There’s much racier content on magazine covers in the grocery checkout line. Stop trying to impose your puritanical aesthetic on the rest of the world. It’s called /all for a reason. What’s wrong with you?!

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve responded to the top comment to address the flaws in that argument.

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• remon@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  apart from individually blocking them (which doesn’t really work, as they keep making more communities).

  It’s very much manageable. But you could try blocking certain instances or even users.

  Other than that, though titties.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ll block them individually, but I would love for there to be a tagging or classification system. Perhaps even a ‘Snowflake NSFW’ setting that allows people to filter out anything suggestive. I understand those hentai communities don’t want to be penalised by having an outRight NSFW tag on them either.

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    • MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      What are these new communities btw?

      I maintain the list available here, and I’ve only neede to add half a dozen new communities in the last year.

      You’re welcome to use it for blocking.

      I will not be marking any of my communities nsfw, only content within them which warrants it.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Yeah. I blocked main porn instances and then other communities as and when they showed up on the feed.

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    • a_person@piefed.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I blocked ani.social just because so much anime and im not into that

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• glimse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I browse All and have like 2000 communities blocked

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I presume you don’t have alts then!

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    • glimse@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Technically I DO have an account on a different instance I was considering switching to but I logged out immediately after seeing they federated with hexbear lol

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• lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  […] and I don’t want it in /all.

  Skill issue. That’s literally what /all is for.

  Block what you don’t want, or set your starting page to subscribed and curate from there. That’s half the point of this entire place.

  The other half you already did the work: notified the comms they have to set to NFW, etc.

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  • sunzu2@thebrainbin.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I am amazed at how helpless some people....

    You don't want to see it, click block!

    JFC have some fucking agency... I know kt is annoyo g bit the fix is easy and right there.

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    • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I am amazed at how helpless some people…

      It’s what TikTok did to a generation. It’s incredible.

      Back in my day, I could even program the time on the VCR!

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve responded to the top comment to address the flaws in that argument.

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• jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  The only way All works is by either manually blocking individual communities or manually blocking certain instances.

  Once you’re done, it’s mostly fine, but like you say, new ones do pop up.

  There’s ONE GUY who runs like 20 different AI porn communities and keeps creating more.

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  • Hazzard@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Exactly what I’ve done. Set my settings to NSFW, blocked most of the “soft” communities like hot girls and moe anime girls and whatever else (blocking the Lemmy nsfw instance is a great place to start), and I use All frequently. That’s how I’ve found all the communities I’ve subscribed to, but frankly, my /all feed is small enough that I usually see all my subscribed communities anyway.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Why am I not surprised that the most sensible response comes from one of the more awesome mods on this platform

    o7 sir, thanks for acknowledging my point and chiming in.

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    • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Hey, I was in your boat when I started on Lemmy 2 years ago.

      “Wow, that’s a lot of furry porn. And gay porn. And gay, furry porn.”

      Not gonna judge, if that’s your thing, it’s your thing, it’s just not MY thing…

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• hisao@ani.social ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I personally don’t consider this NSFW.

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  • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    It’s clearly a less racey example. Multiple people hung up on this 🤦‍♂️.

    Would you like a real example? Brave enough to give me your work email? I promise to send you nothing but untagged Lemmy content.

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    • Blueberrydreamer@lemmynsfw.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      How is it ‘clearly’ anything? It’s the only example OP provided, what else are we supposed to judge his claims by?

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    • hisao@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I’ve been working remote ever since COVID. Also, if we’re going this far, I think this whole culture of absent personal space at work isn’t something to defend. If anything, it’s kind of nice to punish this system by having something shocking or insulting on your screen. But we all need money and people don’t want to get fired so I can understand that. We’re all going to get fired and replaced by AI anyway though.

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• HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Plenty of other people have said it, and I’ll repeat it: Stop browsing by /all. Find a handful of communities you want to subscribe to, and stick with those.

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  • lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    There is a fair point to make that it’s instances that should default to /local instead of /all - at least for uncredentialed guests. Since if you want to see more, you can just get to the next instance, and the next, and the next…, and that way we avoid reloading basically the same content and stuff on every instance you visit.

    And it helps instances better moderate how they present themselves to potential sign-ups.

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    • HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      That is indeed a fair talking point, which of course has its own risk of a new user not know there’s more to the fediverse (or not knowing what the fediverse is) than only what a local instance shows.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I’ve responded to the top comment to address the flaws in that argument.

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• rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Often it is downvoted

  Also, can we please agree that is really poor netiquette to downvote posts that you are not subscribing to? If you are not subscribed to a community, you should have no saying whether the content is relevant to the community or not.

  Instead of downvoting, hide posts you don’t want the content on your feed or report it if it actually improper content. Downvoting things just because you saw it on all is hostile af.

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  • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    No. Some communities I don’t want to see regularly, but I know how the community works.

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Some communities I don’t want to see regularly

      And your solution to that is browsing by /all?

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I meant my request to mark the community as NSFW is being downvoted, which I understand.

    I downvote the post only if the mod just removes my request, which I think is mod abuse.

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    • rglullis@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I downvote the post only if the mod just removes my request, which I think is mod abuse.

      Then block the community, report to the admin if the community is not respecting the instance rules and carry on with your day. Downvoting is just some passive-aggressive way of expressing your disapproval for the tastes/interests of the community members.

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• Kirk@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Nobody really seems to be pointing out that you are on an instance that does not require the behavior you are requesting.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I thought this community is for discussions about the Fediverse and not limited to any particular instance.

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    • Kirk@startrek.website ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      Yes, but there are no (cannot be) any content rules that apply to the entire fediverse, the admins of each instance determine what experience their users will have.

      Not everyone is seeing the same posts you are seeing, and your instance has no rules on the topic. You could have more luck enacting change by messaging your admins or making a meta post in your instance’s meta community.

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• Toes@ani.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I feel ya, some of the posts you said that on, probably should be NSFW. But not a romantic kiss imho. Other sites solved this ages also with explicit, questionable and safe tags.

  I think it’s ridiculous that Lemmy adopted the binary NSFW option from Reddit. With the Ukraine war and people posting videos as NSFW with body parts laying around. I don’t want to see the anime pictures in the same bucket as that either.

  There needs to be more tags and that would make everyone happy.

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• zerofk@lemmy.zip ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I occasionally see similar complaints, and I’m sure it’s legitimate for some users. But personally I don’t get it. I don’t block NSFW content, and yet I rarely see it in /all. When I do it’s usually a bunch at once, but like I said it doesn’t happen a lot.

  The only thing in /all that used to bother me is the sports stuff, but by blocking a single community that’s mostly gone now.

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• CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’ve upset the thirsty weebs. They yearn for their Yuri furi porn.

  No there is nothing to do. This is decentralized social media. This is what they want. This place will never be popular, will always lack the content, and in general be a shit show content wise.

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• CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I haven’t noticed that so I probably blocked them long ago. You have to do some maintenance on the feed but these things do not pop up constantly.

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• daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  I don’t know any place which have the proposed “soft nsfw” filter separate from “nsfw”.

  Comparison with reddit is weird as reddit r/all is full of ““artistic”” pictures or paintings of naked women.

  Also the fediverse is not really like reddit. The more the platform grows the more useless All becomes. Try to go to mastodon and browse by “all” it’s unusable. Either pick an instance with a good “local” you like or all is not really that important. I don’t think it’s a “first impressions”, first impression is “local”. All is never going to be a curated feed, not a consistent one. It’s a federated platform, which means a LOT of diversity and variety on communities and posts.

  Also I don’t see or even want to start consider anything that shows a little skin “nsfw”. I think that’s a very personal taste that should not be universally applied.

  I really don’t buy the argument here.

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  • kingofras@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Argument 1: nobody else has it so why should we? Because we are new, the next step - we improve what needs to be done better.

    Argument 2: reddit is full of porn… see above. We can make it better, at very little cost to anyone.

    Argument 3 is undermining your first 2, but I agree. This would cause a few instances to become very popular and render the concept of federation unnecessary.

    I don’t understand how a bunch of people here are basically say /all is a sewer, accept it.

    I’m say it is not and doesn’t have to be. It is a place for discovery, and there is a way to make that more pleasant. Another commenter said an AI filter would also be good.

    All I am suggesting is In addition to having the Fediverse allowing posts and communities to be marked NSFW, to allow for more filters. One filter like what I am suggesting could be a snowflake or FamFriendly filter which removes suggestive, soft porn or racy or soft gore stuff. Another could be AI which removes synthetically generated content.

    How anyone can be against that is beyond me. I’m not asking for these things to be turned on by default, or to shove it down people’s throats. By default /all would still be the same

    I understand NSFW and FamilyFriendly are blurry concepts. It is still up to the post OPs, community creators, moderators and instance administrators to use these properly.

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    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      People are against it because several reasons.

      First because it’s a very specific taste/opinion that they don’t share. You are saying that “all would be more appealing without softcore porn”, but it seems that you are the only one who thinks that here, most people don’t care or even like it. We could also put a filter to blurry dog pictures for people scare of dogs, where does it end? Until which point personal tastes should have their own explicit filters? It ends in a “word filter” which is already usable.

      Also I would say that most people is against this because it reads as a first step towards a “porn ban”. We have no puritan advertisements or pay processor to please. People here like the freedom. And that would be a step in the opposite direction. It reads a little like so many discourses we are seeing in so many places to make them “family friendly” and to “protect the children”. I would suppose that due the nature of the fediverse (which is a push back against those people controlling our internet) is against anything that looks like that.

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• sundray@lemmus.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  You’re a… brave person, posting this on Lemmy of all places. The only thing more dangerous would posting the word f*ck OH SHIT LOOK OUT HERE THEY COME!

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• Flax_vert@feddit.uk ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  It’s also bad because of the UK online safety act. I don’t want our flamingo to be at risk :(

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• lostoncalantha@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Everyone calm yet tits

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  • 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    *jumps*

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• Fleur_@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Filter ani.social

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