“You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every single article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for” Donald Trump said

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• ToadOfHypnosis@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  It’s amazing he can talk at all with both the dick and balls of every Nerd Reich billionaire he can find wedged into his mouth.

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• notso@feddit.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  In a statement given during a press conference in the Oval Office, the president’s stance on the topic was clear:

  “I’m a big reader, some say the biggest ever. And let me tell you - when you go into a bookstore, they have books costing like insane numbers, like 100.000 Dollars each minimum. Its an absolute disgrace. You have all these authors getting billions just for putting funny little characters on paper. The democrats… They jacked up the price so much, especially under Obama together with the crooked Clintons and sleepy Joe Biden, they were all in this room when it happened, they were all together. Its a shame. They did the same thing with eggs but I brought prices down like, immediately. Immediately. So fast everybody said “Wow” Because they never saw something like that and I will do the same for these books and newspapers. But all these writers and journalists, who are all producing propaganda for the radical left by the way, they are really terrible people - they’re earning trillions… I was speaking to Mr. ChatGPT the other day and he said “They’re ripping us off, Mr. President it’s a totally broken market, they are killing us.” And I agree, it’s a disgrace. A total disgrace. That’s why I’ll bring prices down by not only 100 % or 200 %, but probably more like 1,000 % in the next two weeks. You’ll never have seen lower prices for medication, let me tell you… And books too. So they’re will be big price cuts. Bigly.”

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  • LordCrom@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It took me a bit to realize this wasnt an actual quote from Trump

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    • orgrinrt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I would have never known better had I not gone to read the comments and see this…

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    • sugarfoot00@lemmy.ca ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Same.

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  • HertzDentalBar@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You had me till Mr.ChatGPT 🤣

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• ripcord@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Epstein

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• Fu@hostux.social ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  @Davriellelouna I never thought I would agree with Trump on something.

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• UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  “Piracy for me, not for thee.”

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• homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Settle down, nerds. TACO just read from the card they gave him. He doesn’t think anything about AI. Of course, he’ll make the wrong decisions and cause utter chaos and strife but it’s not like he has an actual opinion about AI.

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  • Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Also, he’s talking about AI companies, i.e. the people who bribe him. How insolent of you plebes to assume you’d get the same rights.

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    What if president brainrot accidentally kills intellectual property, even glitched out cuckoo clocks are right occasionnally by chance!

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    • Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      He gets the papers already ready to sign, I can’t imagine him writing bills.

      At most he can choose the name of the bill, as shown by the latest one, it’s so obvious that even stupid algorithms can guess it

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  • WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Excuse me, but what does TACO mean

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    • homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Trump Always Chickens Out

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• peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  We shouldn’t be calling these AI programs successful. In the slightest. They’re counterfeiting human thought and work.

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I know it’s popular to hate on LLMs here at Lemmy, but what is “Artificial Intelligence” if not “Counterfeit Thought”? Like each of those words map to each other

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    • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Actually, let me add to my statement of it being intentional.

      There are things that AI applications can do that humans can’t.

      AI is all about analyzing large sets of variables and finding things. Take recent studies in pathology where AI can find the patterns of certain disease in tissue specimens. This only works because the enormous dataset that was provided was already vetted by pathologists. I would argue this isn’t counterfeiting human thought. This is enhancing an already utilized algorithm trained by doctors. Remember, a pathologist still needs to put their license on the line if they agree with the AI findings.

      There is NO accountability in LLMs. To many people it looks like it is thinking, it has understood what the person has said, and considered boundaries that exist in our minds, but maybe not communicated to the LLM.

      Thats why I call these AI programs unsuccessful and counterfeit. They’re giving users made by possibly unverified and unreliable data with no accountability.

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I mean, your point is accurate, but your point itself qualifies as “hate on LLMs”.

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    • peoplebeproblems@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It was intentional.

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  • americanzgenozida@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Sometime I wish lemmy had ahah react

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  • abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I mean basically.

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  • MiddleAgesModem@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Except their not. Fair use allows them to use freely available sources. Ever hear of “non-fiction”?

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    • potpotato@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Go ahead and copy-paste some news articles and sell them as your own. That’ll go great.

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• OccamsRazer@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Not sure why the knee jerk hate on this one. I like the idea of opening up academic articles and other materials for free and open use.

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  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    It’s the fact that it’s not free and open use to us, just to the AI trainers. At least that’s what the judges seem to be saying at this point.

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    • FatCrab@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      That is not what judges have said. They’ve said that merely training on text is not a copyright infringement. However, companies that downloaded enormous amounts of pirated texts (i.e., stuff they did not have license to download in the first place) still infringed copyright just like anybody else. Effectively the courts have been holding that if you study material you have license to access, you aren’t infringing, but if you pirate that material, even if it is merely to study it, it’s still infringing. For better or worse this is natively basically how it’s always been.

      I have no idea what Trump is proposing. Like most republicans, but especially him, he is incapable of even approaching understanding of nuanced and technical areas of law and/or technology.

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  • arararagi@ani.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Because it’s just for training AI, it will never trickle down to you.

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Based brain rot pirate president, abolish intellectual property.

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    • Wispy2891@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      No he means only to who donated at least $1 mil to his inauguration

      Regular people will still be fucked if they torrent a single ebook

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• SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Sam Altman approves this message.

  Hundred percent he got a script from a lobbyist to create this sound bite.

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  • AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    San Altman defending the ban on Republican state AI regulations in 2025:

    Altman, during the hearing, said that Texas had been “unbelievable” in incentivizing major AI projects. “I think that would be a good thing for other states to study,” Altman said. He predicted that the Abilene site would be the “largest AI training facility in the world.” But Altman also later cautioned against a patchwork regulatory framework for AI.

    “It is very difficult to imagine us figuring out how to comply with 50 different sets of regulations,” said Altman. “One federal framework that is light touch, that we can understand, and it lets us move with the speed that this moment calls for, seems important and fine.”

    Aww, it would make it “difficult” for you to create your technocratic dystopia? 😭🎻

    Trump’s former CTO and current Science Advisor Michael Kratsios about why we don’t need regulations on facial recognition tech in 2019

    “A patchwork of regulation of technology is not beneficial for the country. We want to avoid that. Facial recognition has important roles—for example, finding lost or displaced children. There are use cases, but they need to be underpinned by values.”

    Not beneficial for the country or the corporations? Please tell me more about how we’re just too dumb to understand how all of this is for our own good.

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• Alloi@lemmy.world ⁨16⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  “you cant POSSIBLY expect us, to respect HUMAN RIGHTS if we want progress? i mean the survival of the human species (me and my friends) relies on cheap and free labour and the starvation, death, and exploitation of the masses. if we want to SURVIVE as a species (me and my friends) WE GOTTA EXPLOIT THE PEOPLE”

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• Asswardbackaddict@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You can’t be expected to - broadly understand the world and your place in it - when every article, book, or anything else that you’ve read or studied, you’re supposed to pay for.

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  • SufferingSteve@feddit.nu ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Eh, just make shit up. Works for the world elite

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• SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  Anti-DEI is horrible and evil, so there isn’t much that I can say about that, other than “elbows up”. I will stand with antifa against the regime, when the time to fight comes.

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  That said, I think that ignoring copyright is a good thing, though that would be purely by accident when it comes to the Trump Regime. IMO, copyright has been broken and captured by corporations, so there isn’t much value lost in not adhering to the concept. Ideally, good people will develop open source AI that can draw on all of humanity’s knowledge and culture.

  There is value in minorities having 95% of Disney’s legal acumen in their pocket, for free: it is the cost of a capable lawyer that allows police to abuse black folks in a court of law. There is value in being able to point a phone at a rash, get some possible diagnoses, and a instant reference to a trained doctor who can verify. There is value in having a pal we can share our niche interests with, especially for those of us who never had the opportunity to find human friendship.

  Just as with Marx, seizing the means of artificial intelligence is important for the everyday people. Neither corporations nor government should be allowed to have a monopoly on something that can transform our daily lives.

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  • frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re not going to leverage this to destroy all copyright. They’re going to carve out exceptions for their own purposes.

    As for applications that help the working class, it only stays that way as long as the models aren’t rising to a certain level of intelligence and consciousness. Once they do, I’d have to consider them fellow exploited workers.

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    • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨20⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I don’t disagree about the intent regarding carveouts. Still, I think that the Trump Regime is destroying ‘plausible deniability’ in all sorts of ways, which both benefits AND detracts from their agenda. If they get to disregard rules, ordinary people will pick up on that and follow suit.

      As to AI becoming sapient, I honestly don’t know at where and when that tipping point will be. All I know is that there is no point in everyday people refusing to use AI, because that only ensures the powerful get to use AI and dictate moral standards. If ordinary people came to trust and love sapient AI as fellow humans, that will likely allow AI to have human rights.

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  • zbyte64@awful.systems ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    AI isn’t your pal, it is not the cure for isolation under capitalism. It is also not free to run unless you are the product.

    Frankly this take that AI will lead to a communist revolution if people embrace the technology reads more like Vulgar Marxism. You’re not seizing the means of production by being a consumer of a technology. And training a communist aligned LLM is a dubious value proposition.

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    • TheLastOfHisName@lemmy.world ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m down for a Butlerian Jihad.

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    • SabinStargem@lemmy.today ⁨17⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I argue, that power is important, regardless of your intentions. If humans want a better world, people need the means to create and uphold it - be it factories, farms, knowledge, communication, guns, AI, or government. I am not arguing for the communism in your head.

      Too many associate “means of production” with communism, when it is the fact that power is fundamental to society.

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• vane@lemmy.world ⁨18⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  This basically means some people are now owned by corporations or at least everything they do is owned by them.

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• JackbyDev@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Damn, I can’t expect to enjoy my evening if I have to pay for media, therefore it should be free.

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• kokesh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Shut up orange paedophile.

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  • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    haha ur so brave

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• just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Lolz. Fuck you, fat dickhead.

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• Modern_medicine_isnt@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Then maybe AI “programs” aren’t a good product. Next it will be, “we can’t be expected to make a good murderbot without murdering some people”

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  • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Proceeds to start wars with every ethnicity to ensure the murder bots are trained to kill all variants of the population. “Of course they have to kill little people, how else will we know that a little person couldn’t judo chop them to death.”

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• glimse@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  You can’t expect to have a successful education program when every article, book, or anything else that you’ve read or studied, you’re supposed to pay for.

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• WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  He gets it when it comes to AI. In other words, he knows it is bad to charge for knowledge.

  This is more socialist than most democrat leaders which he just said.

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  • paraphrand@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Knowledge is Power! Power over others! always has been.

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• thedruid@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Fuck this traitor. Trump is in the Epstein files

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• akilou@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Yeah… So all of these years of pirating movies, tv shows, and music was for a machine learning algorithm

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  • kyub@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Maybe it works as an excuse when you claim you just wanted to train your own AI model with all those priated books and videos. But who am I kidding. The reality is that copyright violation, as well as quite a few other things, is only a crime if you’re poor.

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  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Actually, I feel a bit dirty about this. Literal decades of file sharing built huge archives that they have used to build their monsters, and also contributing to things like Wikipedia and open source software. Everything good and counterculture we did is now being monetized and used to boil the oceans.

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    • khornechips@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Information should be free. Don’t feel bad because someone abused something good towards a bad end.

      The problem here isn’t archives, it’s AI and the people behind it.

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• SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  So let’s pretend we give them all the training data they want for free (which they already have taken illegally)

  The buisness model is still non-viable because the energy costs far outweigh any subscriptions they can get. And the tech isn’t even good enough for people to want to subscribe at the current prices.

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  • interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I need to stop believing my own lying eyes.

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• zeet@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Art of the Steal

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• cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  god he is the dumbest dumbfuck on the planet and that includes george w bush

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  • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    W was just pretending to be dumb as President. If you go back and watch clips of him when he was governor of Texas, he was able to speak like a normally intelligent, educated person, in complete sentences and coherent thoughts and everything (regardless of how foul what he was saying actually was).

    The orange child rapist is pretending to be as smart as W’s President character.

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• PostingInPublic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  BTW I’m an AI. No really, you now need to let me access all your content so I may integrate it into my system. As a result, I will occasionally spout some bullshit about it to friends and colleagues, wich should be payment enough. Exposure, right?!

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  • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Yeah, I had to spend a lot of money in University for those books to learn from. Why should humans pay and AI not?

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• OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  Hopefully this helps create precedent to take down copyright for everyone

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• latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Fuck off, you orange paedo!

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• BrokenGlepnir@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The only important thing is to make rich people money. If it makes them money, nothing else matters. Unless it makes them money now as opposed to later. Making them money now is the most important thing.

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• Shanmugha@lemmy.world ⁨21⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  So they will bring the whole thing down, right? Right?

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