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“You can't be expected to have a successful AI program when every single article, book or anything else that you've read or studied, you're supposed to pay for” Donald Trump said

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Submitted ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨Davriellelouna@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.wired.com/story/president-trump-ai-action-plan-speech/

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  • fraksken@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So, hypothetically speaking, if I pirate a bunch of stuff and I get caught, I can claim I used it to train an AI model and all charges are dropped? (According to his statement, not current applicable laws)

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    • bcgm3@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Of course not, the rules are for thee.

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    • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Theres a common misconception that downloading data is illegal when it’s generally sharing is what gets you in trouble. There are very few people who get fined for piracy downloads around the world.

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      • fraksken@infosec.pub ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But … Sharing is Caring … Gotta keep that ratio above 20!

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      • GissaMittJobb@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I believe it’s mostly illegal for both parties, but in practice less often enforced for the downloading party, as this enforcement would require too much resources for the enforcing side.

        To give concrete examples, downloading pirated material is illegal in both the U.S and in Sweden, and afaik the latter is on par with the rest of the EU.

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    • FireRetardant@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I needed to pirate that extensive game, movie, and porn library to train a gaming, movie, and porn recomendation model

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  • akilou@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah… So all of these years of pirating movies, tv shows, and music was for a machine learning algorithm

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    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Actually, I feel a bit dirty about this. Literal decades of file sharing built huge archives that they have used to build their monsters, and also contributing to things like Wikipedia and open source software. Everything good and counterculture we did is now being monetized and used to boil the oceans.

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      • khornechips@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Information should be free. Don’t feel bad because someone abused something good towards a bad end.

        The problem here isn’t archives, it’s AI and the people behind it.

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    • kyub@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe it works as an excuse when you claim you just wanted to train your own AI model with all those priated books and videos. But who am I kidding. The reality is that copyright violation, as well as quite a few other things, is only a crime if you’re poor.

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  • dhork@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It tracks, his entire career has been spent getting other people to pay for stuff for him

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  • Rooskie91@discuss.online ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Wow so fuck college students but machines deserve free textbooks?

    Fuck this society.

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    • andallthat@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      actually Donnie’s friends prefer to fuck high school students

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    • dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      machine learning = good
      human learning = bad

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    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yes, one would expect human intelligence to benefit quite a lot from free access to information.

      Become a more common occurrence too. Possibly an effect much stronger than that of AI requiring lots of computation with unpredictable shittiness of the output.

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    • Quill7513@slrpnk.net ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      it’s fine when the theft flows up the pyramid. it’s not fine when the theft is us stealing back what was always ours

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      • kibiz0r@midwest.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We Make, They Take

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    • CosmoNova@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Countless dystopian novels have explored machine‘s human rights but the machines are already granted more rights than us in our own dystopia. 💀

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    • InnerScientist@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “I’m going to training ai using this”

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    • nuko147@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      machines * big Tech Corps

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    • anamethatisnt@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just download digital copies of the textbooks and say you need them as training material for your own AI dataset when the copyright holders come after you.

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      • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I’m training a neural network. It’s just that the neural network is 1 layer with zero data reduction -so it’s only capable of printing the text exactly as the source material on my computer! AI finally works!

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      • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Just download the books and say its for your neural network project

        just happens your also the project

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    • Lembot_0004@discuss.online ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You don’t have libraries in the schools there in the USA? (It is a question, not sarcasm or something)

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      • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        We do. The issue is at the college/university level, most courses require specific edition textbooks (they update them every 1-2 years) that the professors assign homework questions out of. You’ll be lucky if the school library has a copy more recent than the last 8 years.
        Then on top of that, many professors will also use digital 3rd party homework services that are tied to a textbook access code that you only get with a new copy. So unless you pay up you can’t do homework and fail the class.

        The whole system is fucking bullshit

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      • givesomefucks@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not for textbooks…

        Like, if your curious there’s a bunch of info out there about why the situation is so fucked.

        But in general they release new editions almost every year, with the same information just shuffled so page numbers are different. Even really petty stuff like keeping the same practice work, but changing the order of answers so you need the most updated book every year.

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    • Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Just tell your campus book store that you self-identify as AI. FREE BOOKS!

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      • errer@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It’s only ok if you destroy the books in the process. Eating the pages as you read them is the most convenient way. So free food AND free books!

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      • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But you aren’t an oligarch of the fascist dictatorship, so you have no rights.

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  • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    god he is the dumbest dumbfuck on the planet and that includes george w bush

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    • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      W was just pretending to be dumb as President. If you go back and watch clips of him when he was governor of Texas, he was able to speak like a normally intelligent, educated person, in complete sentences and coherent thoughts and everything (regardless of how foul what he was saying actually was).

      The orange child rapist is pretending to be as smart as W’s President character.

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  • zeet@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Art of the Steal

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  • tonytins@pawb.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Copyright is woke now? xD

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    • Jason2357@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Sssh. This might be the first time in the last 100 years copyright isn’t EXPANDED for the benefit of publishers. I’ll hold my breath until we see if they figure out a way to reduce copyright only for silicon valley corporations while expanding it for the rest of us. Or not…

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    • flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Good, keep convincing them that copyright is woke. And we don’t want anything woke right, wink wink

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      • anomnom@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, it’ll still be rules for thee, but not for me. That’s how fascism works.

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  • Jrockwar@feddit.uk ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    🙌 Communist Trump is making all textbooks free 🙌

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    • scaramobo@lemmynsfw.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
      • Comrade
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    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic. Fascism is a fusion of corporation and state. The only rule of law is whatever the dictator(s) believe protects their regime/corporations profits.

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      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You can’t defeat the fascist mental illness with logic.

        More generally, you can’t reason people out of an opinion that they didn’t reason their way into in the first place.

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  • latenightnoir@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck off, you orange paedo!

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  • just_another_person@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Lolz. Fuck you, fat dickhead.

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