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RFK Jr. Wants Every American to Be Sporting a Wearable Within Four Years

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Submitted ⁨⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨return2ozma@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://gizmodo.com/rfk-jr-wants-every-american-to-be-sporting-a-wearable-within-four-years-2000619672

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  • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Why would every American buy one if they can’t afford insurance + medical bills to pay for health care? “Oh look, I’m having a heart attack. Good to know. Guess I’ll just keep working.”

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  • LordCrom@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Follow the money. Nominee for surgeon general has a stake in wearable tech.

    Just like when those scatter machines were forced on the TSA, it’s because the person in charge had a stake in the company making them.

    My company gave these things away to each employee for some ‘fitness challenge’ between departments…I never even opened the package. My group was mad at me for not helping win the free lunch or whatever it was … Until I made them read the privacy policy. Many stopped wearing them immediately

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  • hightrix@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    No fucking way.

    You can’t pay me to wear anything on my wrist even without the government spying. And no way in hell would I trust anything this administration recommends.

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  • SleepyBear@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Mandating Americans use ‘wearables’ for health reasons thats coming from the same party that, when asked to wear a mask during a worldwide pandemic for the public health decried government overreach, claiming it was like living in nazi germany, and even discredited Fauci over his very true claims of wearing masks helping to save lives. I truly cant wait to see what that side has to say about Junior here, gotta keep that same energy right??

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  • j0ester@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Don’t fucking tell me what to do.

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  • mazzilius_marsti@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    yeh… like that worm in your head huh

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    • Ledericas@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Those who are not infected with worms or eggs, must be identified -rfk jr

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  • daggermoon@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Yeah, no

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  • Olhonestjim@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Revelation 13:16-17 New International Version 16 It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, 17 so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name.

    Huh. No uproar from the people who believe in this shit? Weird.

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    • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Maybe they’re all too busy basking in the warm glow of hell… Nah

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      • FruitLips@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        They are/were anti-vax, that makes chances pretty good.

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  • ArsonButCute@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Years ago I purchased a Fossil Explorist Q wearable smartwatch. The first software update, about a month after I bought it, turned the device from a functional smartwatch into a brick that was so slow it was nearly nonfunctional.

    The device was not powerful enough to run all the spyware they tried to pack into that update, turning it into an on wrist heater, occasionally getting Hot enough to burn me.

    I’ve never seen a device so thoroughly destroyed by enshittification so quickly. That’s experience turned me off of wearables forever. Maybe I’ll make my own someday. Maybe I’ll get a Pebble now that they’re back-ish. I’ll never get anything with wearOS on it again. Hell after the last year I might never get something with Android/iOS again either.

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    • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Wait till you can have your pacemaker play the Netflix sound for 10% off the family plan

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  • unphazed@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Ok RFK. Let’s see you and all of Trump’s squad do it first, and make sure it’s public in realtime. I’d love to see timestamps each and every time he reads AOC tweets.

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  • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thing is putting the horrific privacy concerns aside it’s not like it’s a bad idea from a health perspective. Everybody being simply more aware of the things their body is doing is immensely helpful on a societal scale.

    Problem is there aren’t any devices that are local only or otherwise truly private. Apple stores your data locally on your phone which is good, but there’s no guarantee it’ll always be that way.

    Pass a law that protects wearable health data under HIPAA and I’d consider it.

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    • ScoffingLizard@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Laws don’t work any longer. Only for poor folks.

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    • LordCrom@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      HIPAA data is protected…until it isn’t. Laws change. Especially when companies are salavating to access health data.

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      • infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Laws don’t even have to change if nobody is enforcing them.

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    • sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Gadgetbridge?

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    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Pass a law that protects wearable health data under HIPAA and I’d consider it.

      And then the next bunch of fascists come in and seize all that data. Or the TLAs do it covertly.

      We need strong data protection laws, but we also need strong technical measures to prevent intrusion.

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      • OrteilGenou@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        And robust incentives for the good guys to keep a step or two ahead of the jerks

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    • swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I thought there were devices like this you could buy as a kit and build yourself that were local and private.

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      • CoolThingAboutMe@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yeh bangle.JS is this I think

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      • EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Not that I can easily find. Especially one that can be bought off the shelf by the average consumer.

        The competition in the wearable space has narrowed in general. If you know of any it’d be really helpful to share, I know I’d be interested.

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  • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Every time I see this Nazi Aristocrat, I am reminded that I have to sharpen my guillotine.

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  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What about sporting insertables instead?

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    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They try pushing a warable onto me, and I’ll insert it in them.

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    • Lemminary@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m gonna need a detailed explanation of exactly what you mean, for the purposes of clear and effective communication.

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      • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Insertables go into your butt.

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  • piwakawakas@lemmy.nz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    As a non American, even I can see this is just a scam to further invade privacy and the data used to get increase health insurance costs

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  • BigDaddySlim@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Fuck you RFK my Casio can’t and won’t connect to the internet, go swim in more sewage you dolt

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  • stoly@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Guess we’ll cut food stamps but tell people who can afford to to get a watch

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    • barneypiccolo@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Let them wear watches.

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  • Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Man, I feel like sick, what’s my watch say?

    status: unhealthy

    Can I receive healthcare?

    no

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    • samus12345@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      yes, but you have to pay a lot for it

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    • oppy1984@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Health care is only for the healthy.

      To see if you qualify for an upgrade to healthy status please input your net worth including all stocks, bonds, precious metals, fine art, jewelry & accessories, private aircraft, and yachts.

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  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    eat shit and go to hell.

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    • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He does probably eat shit so he’s at least half way there

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  • Almacca@aussie.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    And I want RFK, along with the rest of these anti-human ghouls to be dropped into an active volcano, but we don’t always get what we want, do we?

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  • dermanus@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    So the vaccine is the government implanting a tracker into me, but watches that track my vitals and send them God knows where is hunky dory?

    These anti government types always have such a hard time when they become the government.

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    • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Having watched his actual statement, is not that they want your data. That’s a red herring in the article.

      But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition-- interacts with their body, that them being able to know of how, for examole, that 2nd Coke, and bag of chips is screwing up your insulin levels, and how it get affected in real time could be a positive drive for change. The fact is that the USA has an obesity pandemic and most people’s knowledge of nutritional science can be laughable at best. 60+% of Americans are overweight. And 33% are literally obese, including kids.

      You do not have to buy a wearable. They are not making or forcing to you wear a wearable and they are not going to ask you to show papers before you want to enter a restaurant proving that you use or own a wearable. He said that he would prefer it because how do you empower people who know next to nothing? Is it the only way? Nope. Of course not, but the system has been so captured by interest groups that many changes may not be politically feasible. They could be done in theory but not in practice right now. Europe had s superior take on nutrition than the USA, for example.

      Personally, I would never wear a wearable but I also spent a lot of time studying Nutritional Science and attempt to leave a healthy lifestyle. It is an extra load of work that cuts into other things and not many may want to do but it is one that it is worth doing for yourself and the family.

      Additionally, I have friends who are Doctors and the concept of wearables is not always well received. Privacy concerns aside, the worry is that it can turn a lot of people into hypochondriacs if they do not fully understand some basics of human anatomy and take raw data out of context. Not to mention a waste of resources if people want to run tests for absolutely everything they think might be wrong with it. It can also be a source for unnecessary stress in some people.

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      • sqgl@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it

        You haven’t researched as well as you think you have. Even freshly squeezed juice is unhealthy. You need the pulp too in order to slow the sugar metabolism, in which case you may as well just eat fruit.

        Check Robert Lustig re sugars.

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      • andros_rex@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        But that the average American is so out of touch with how food --presumably bad, shitty food and nutrition

        A substantial part is that our food is filled with shit.

        They add sugar to everything. Food marketing is insane, and so much of it should be illegal.

        Sometimes I want to buy juice that doesn’t have a shitload of sugar in it. Getting a load of bread will involve eating extra sugar. The country subsidizes corn, so high fructose corn syrup is added to everything.

        Unregulated hell capitalism means that food gets to be pumped full of shit. Broke and stressed people rely on convenience foods - which don’t need to be unhealthy but are purposefully made so with addictive ingredients.

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      • tartarin@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        A wearable will be totally useless if the owner has no clue what he should do or don’t. Leaving people with a guilty mood will not help anyone. You cannot improvise yourself a nutritionist and most people cannot. The facts are you must first know how to cook because you will not find a healthy diet in the frozen meal aisle. As you cannot improvise yourself a kinesiologist. That guy, Robert Fucking Kennedy doesn’t know shit about how to turn unhealthy people into healthy people. He’s just a fucking dork with no real life experience.

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      • ksigley@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Bro wrote a novel just to say they’re dumb as rocks. Lmao.

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    • Venus_Ziegenfalle@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Every accusation is a confession and all that

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  • DarkFuture@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Anti-science brain worm dumbfuck says what?

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  • orionsbelt@midwest.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    casio calculator watch or bust

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  • EighteenthNerd@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    From: theguardian.com/…/rfk-maha-ultra-processed-foods

    A key adviser to Kennedy, Calley Means, could directly benefit from one of the campaign’s stated aims: popularizing “technology like wearables as cool, modern tools for measuring diet impact and taking control of your own health”.

    Calley Means is a senior Kennedy adviser, and was hired as a special government employee to focus on food policy, according to Bloomberg. He founded a company that helps Americans get such wearable devices reimbursed tax-free through health savings accounts.

    Casey Means is Calley’s sister. She also runs a healthcare start-up, although hers sells wearable devices such as continuous glucose monitors. She is Kennedy’s nominee for US surgeon general, and a healthcare entrepreneur whose business sells continuous glucose monitors – one such wearable device. Calley Means’s company also works with Casey’s company.

    Due to Calley Means’s status as a special employee, he has not been forced to divest from his private business interests – a situation that has already resulted in an ethics complaint. Consumer advocates, such as the non-profit group Public Citizen, had warned such hiring practices could cause conflicts of interest. HHS did not respond to a request for comment about Calley Means’s private business interests, or his role in crafting the publicity campaign.

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  • phoenixz@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I love how these extremist Christian Republicans always go on about the mark of the beast and how everyone will be forced to wear it but that the righteous man won’t wear it…

    All of them will do this, mark my words. These fuckers are worshipping Satan as far as they know and they’re fine with it.

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    • immutable@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Everyone in America has to give out their social security numbers to every fucking company and government department because it’s the closest thing we have to a national ID.

      Why can’t we have a real, secure, National ID system? Because it’s the mark of the beast!!

      But now that RFK Jr wants to hunt people for sport I’m sure they will fall in line.

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  • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sure Bobby. I went and got myself an open-source “smart” watch that pairs with another FOSS app that doesn’t send anything outside of the device.

    What? Not like that? Oh, too bad.

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    • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      He never said that he wants your data. Like, at all.You are just projecting. The Apple Watch BS claim is from the publication linked, not from him.

      In fact, going by he actually said, you are doing exactly what he wants you to do. Use the data, if you want, to make better life and nutritional choices.

      Keep doing it. You American seems to need it given your country’s general health stats.

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      • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Yes, I am projecting, I will fully admit that. Which is why, as a watch person, I went with a smart watch solution that doesn’t mine my data.

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    • Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’m looking at getting a Pebble.

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      • ITGuyLevi@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Still rocking a Pebble Steel from a decade ago, I tried a fitbit and Galaxy one but this Pebble has outlived them all. Thankfully I managed to find a silicon band for it when the leather one finally gave up on me.

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      • Liberteez@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Dude I used my Pebble way more organically than I ever used my much fancier Fitbit

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      • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Same, I loved my Pebble Time Steel. I still do, and I still wear it sometimes (still got a week long battery life), but my daily driver is my PineTime.

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  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I chose to stop wearing a watch more than 20 years ago. I thought about getting one for the health benefits five years ago, but concluded that I don’t want to have a watch nor cover an awesome tattoo. As a friend once wrote, “wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”

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    • swelter_spark@reddthat.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Yeah, I don’t even remember the last time I wore a watch. No reason now that everything has a clock built in.

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    • FriendBesto@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Do you take your phone everywhere? Does it have a clock you use on it?

      So, guess the only difference is that one has an armband and the other you stare at for a lot longer?

      If you do not have a phone either, then hats off to you.

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      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I leave my phone somewhere in my home and walk into a different room. Which undoubtedly has a clock. It also doesn’t cover my cool 8-bit video game sprites tattoo.

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    • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      It’s certainly nice to live a life free of responsibility for others, but that’s a massive and selfish privilege.

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    • AntEater@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”

      That’s perfect! I’m stealing this. I HATE, despise, loath in every respect clocks, watches, calendars and any other form of scheduling oppression. Go pound sand - I’ll show up when I show up.

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      • ayyy@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Do you have children or elderly parents to care for?

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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        You would have a nervous breakdown in my house. Clocks in every room and 20 watches hanging in my room.

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    • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As a friend once wrote, “wearing a watch is like being handcuffed to time.”

      I mean, some of us kinda need that.

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      • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        It was a note he wrote down for himself while on strong psycadelics. I don’t think that nullifies the observation.

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      • Zoomboingding@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I have a decent sense of time and an abundance of options to verify it

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  • Dragomus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    “Wearables” but they forget to mention it’s about government mandated trackers in a closed ecosystem.
    They will track which bad (health or otherwise) groups of people one has come in contact with and make deductions based on that.

    Ofcourse it’s also extra business for the ice teams. And the deluxe wearable also tracks payments.

    The European Covid tracking app back then already was very scary in its early setup … and this mandated wearable idea will be far worse.

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  • markovs_gun@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    American evangelicals when the government suggests getting a vaccine for a deadly virus- “IT’S THE MARK OF THE BEAST DON’T GET IT OR YOU’LL GO TO HELL”

    American evangelicals when people they voted for say you need to wear something on your wrist to participate in society - “This is fine”

    A wearable computer is much more similar in form to what is described in the Book of Revelation than a vaccine is, but these dumbasses don’t see that because they’re not operating on logic but instead are just doing what they’re told.

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  • Absaroka@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.

    Do you know why most people don’t get those?

    Insurance won’t cover them.

    Maybe start there? Although I’m guessing he has no buddies who would make money from routine blood tests.

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    • lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You know what else would help? Annual (or more) blood tests during routine wellness checks with your doctor.

      Do you know why most people don’t get those?

      Insurance won’t cover them.

      My insurance covers this.

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      • Absaroka@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I tweaked. Many (most?) don’t.

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    • Wolf314159@startrek.website ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The best part is the random bill.

      • Go to the doctor. Get blood drawn.
      • Doctor send the blood to a lab for the test. Doesn’t tell me who. I don’t care who. It’s their subcontractor, let them worry about it. *Go back to the doctor or get a call for results. Pay the doctor the standard co-pay. *Months later a random company sends me a bill. This is a company that I have never interacted with or entered into any contract with, for work that somebody else (presumably my doctor, but who the fuck knows for sure) asked them to do for them, sending the results to that other person and NOT to me.

      The system is broken. If any other company subcontracted a part of their work to a third party, you as the client would reasonably expect that work to be paid through the original contract, not get a bill directly from the subcontractor. I didn’t hire them, the doctor hired them. As far as my tmethic compass spins, that’s the doctor’s debt, not mine. I paid the doctor already.

      Or another variant.

      • Go to the emergency room.
      • Get separate bills FOR THE SAME SERVICE from the hospital, the doctor, and somehow the hospital again but this time it’s the emergency room (which is somehow separate with a different billing company).

      The system is not just broken. It is designed to fleece us and train us to always accept whatever debt the institutions decide to levy on us without question.

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      • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Or how about the variant:

        • submit prescription refill request —- check back —- check back —- check back
        • escalate —- “we don’t have your insurance info” —- yes you do but here it is again
        • resubmit prescription refill request —- check back —- check back —- check back
        • escalate —- “we don’t accept that insurance. Find a new doctor”

        New doctor

        • “why don’t you take your prescriptions regularly?”
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      • shalafi@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        The doctor bill is separate because they’re not hospital employees. The only have privileges to work at a given hospital, not for them.

        The separate ER bill is likely some fuckery I’m ignorant of.

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      • Geodad@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        As medical bills can’t currently ding your credit score, I just throw them in the trash.

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      • vxx@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        That would be a violation of the hiipa act. Your samples get sent anonymous to the Lab with only a case number. They only know the adress of the doctor.

        If your doctor didn’t anonymise your sample and the lab used it to send you a bill, they’re in deep waters.

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  • PattyMcB@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Something something government tracking with microchips

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