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Reddit in talks to embrace Sam Altman’s iris-scanning Orb to verify users
Submitted 3 weeks ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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LWD@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
are they really trying to make us ponder an orb to get onto reddit
big_slap@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
scan your eyes to use social media? don’t mind if I DONT lol
lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I will happily forego any/all social media (and never look back) rather than submit to such an idiotic, intrusive, perverse, and disgusting system.
🤦♀️ 🙄 🤡 🖕 💩
GraniteM@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
happydoors@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
But think of all the convenience you gain by not having to remember a password! That darn brain of mine
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
If World ID becomes one of Reddit’s third-party providers, it would be good news for Tools for Humanity, which was founded six years ago with the lofty goal of providing a universal basic income to the world by offering them cryptocurrency called Worldcoin in exchange for scanning their eyeballs with an Orb.
What the actual fuck.
Seriously how on Earth is that supposed to work?
frank@sopuli.xyz 3 weeks ago
It’s just a buzzword volly to get people to want to surrender more data. Actually insane premise lmao
slaacaa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I read about this a few years ago, and even saw them in a mall in Western EU.
The whole thing is just bio-data mining, and they started by preying on some poor regions inf Africa
shani66@ani.social 3 weeks ago
Selling data on people is a lucrative business. Although it is a business and not UBI.
echodot@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
Okay I’ve scanned my eyeball and I’ve got some of their worthless cryptocurrency. What about next month, do they want me to scan my eyeball again, because I guarantee it won’t have changed.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
So this guy helps create a technology that turns bots up to 11 and then he turns around to sell us a privacy invasive solution to the problem he created? What a fucking asshole.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
But would it make you feel better to know that there’s also a crypto currency associated with it?
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
I can’t believe you’ve done this to me
biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Isn’t he an accelerationist? To them the more fuck ups we have the more solutions we make, which is pretty stupid of an argument in my opinion.
Dogyote@slrpnk.net 3 weeks ago
I agree. We obviously need to make huge changes to how we live asap, but it seems so profoundly stupid to let a few unelected people break things without a collectively agreed upon plan in place.
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Scan your biounique eyeball to provide ID wrist retaining your anonymity???
Anonymity and the ability for someone else to prove it was me are nearly opposites.
jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I mean, I don’t trust OpenAI or Reddit either but these two things are as mutually exclusive as they seem.
With zero-knowledge principles you could maintain anonymity while still verifying identity. Doesn’t mean that’s what big tech is doing or is gonna do, but also doesn’t mean it’s physically unreal or anything either. We could build a not shitty system.
davidagain@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Biounique id is an advertiser’s wet dream and I don’t think it’s theoretically possible to prevent it from being exploited for profiling by Google. If the hashed encrypted token retains the uniqueness then it points to you as an individual across time, devices and location changes. There is no escaping this ID.
Google and other multinational corporations WILL know where you live and can figure out all your personal characteristics with a little time. Your anonymity is gone forever.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Identity does not need to be verified by a private company’s scan of someone’s eyeballs.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
besselj@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Lol. The bots to humans ratio will get even bigger if that happens.
cecilkorik@piefed.ca 3 weeks ago
It works: You can tell the real humans because they'll be the only ones unwilling to do this invasive bullshit. The bots will just come up with something fake to scan and carry on as they always have.
meco03211@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
The bots will just come up with something fake to scan and carry on as they always have.
Like a real human eye? Is this how Skynet starts?
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Thanks Reddit for giving me yet another reason not to go back
possumparty@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I got banned for more or less saying Elon is a miserable twat who deserves bad things to happen to him on that one thread where people went full board on the gruesome depictions and that was enough for a permaban. Fuck Reddit.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I got banned for saying that poisoning an invasive species like cats isn’t any different than poisoning an invasive species like rats, except that cats are cute and fluffy and rats are not.
It was under a post about the Australian government putting up poison traps to combat the local cat population which is threatening local endangered wildlife.
Smoogs@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Humans with human eyeballs are still using Reddit? I thought it was just bots moderating bots by now.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
happy cake day
Tronn4@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
They can scan these nuts
InnerScientist@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Scan on deez
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
This will do it. It will finally kill reddit.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 weeks ago
Sicko.yes.gif
lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Been trying to get people on Reddit to cross over to the light over here but damn it’s hard
realitista@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Why? I don’t want anyone here who it’s not self evident to that it’s better here. For it to stay a better place it needs to keep better people who can make their own decisions using their brains.
AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Who TF is actually going to want to use these platforms bad enough to do this shit?
Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.
Reddit is mainly just very poorly disguised government surveillance and AI generated advertisement, and none of the content is even enjoyable or enticing. Who TF is their target audience?
GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
You severely overestimate how much the average person cares about their own privacy.
realitista@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Even so, are they going to acquire, set up, and use an iris scanner just to remain anonymous on Reddit?
46_and_2@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Who TF is their target audience?
Useful idiots
winni@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Bots
m0darn@lemmy.ca 3 weeks ago
Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.
In Canada we passed a regulation that social media sites have to pay our media companies to link to their articles. Google is paying up, but Facebook said no, and has banned news. It has made Facebook here much less terrible.
gleb@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
FUCK no.
Retrograde@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I thought this was an onion article or something
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Sure…as if they get my bio-data. That company will at best get a 1-way salted hash.
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 3 weeks ago
Lemmy gonna get crowded soon
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
I wish. I have noticed that I don’t see many Lenny endorsements anymore, I wonder if they remove those (I know my comment has been removed couple of times).
JayGray91@piefed.social 3 weeks ago
Probably still do quite a lot. I still have my account there in case there are calls to promote the fediverse.
They left Digg posts alone for now though. I know it's another boiling pot, dont have to remind me.
F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
You’d have to get me high on PCP + cocaine + some sort of crazy shit like krokodil to just implant the idea that I need to verify my very existence to a private company to post comments online or to enjoy a website.
pyre@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
lol
lmao, even
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 weeks ago
I would not ponder this orb
AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Lmao No
Integrate777@discuss.online 3 weeks ago
I mean, come on. We shit on redditors, but even redditors won’t stand for getting their iris’s scanned just to use the site…
terminhell@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I think you dropped this: /s
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 3 weeks ago
…this isn’t satire?
wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 3 weeks ago
Every frickin day… at least once, I read a post’s title and start looking around for clues that it’s not real… My mind goes: “is it the onion? Is it April’s fools again already? This can’t be true…”
atlien51@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
I really hope this drives a ton of users to Lemmy. I love this platform but it sadly really feels like a 20% Reddit :/
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
It’s a solution to a problem Lemmy will soon have in that case.
Which is bots.
Lemmy isn’t flooded with bots and astroturfing because it’s essentially too small to matter. The audience is something like < 0.001% that of reddit.
Once it grows the problem comes here as well, and we have no answers for it.
It’s a shitty situation for the internet as a whole, and the only solution is verifying humans. And corporations CANNOT be trusted with that kind of access/power
iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Note: Make the UX on Lemmy even worse to keep the Redditors out!
atlien51@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
Well said!! :)
brsrklf@jlai.lu 3 weeks ago
A lot less than 20% when it comes to specific subjects. The great thing about reddit was finding communities around just about every topic or hobby. If 100 people had a passion for something they could meet on Reddit and still have a comfy, somewhat active sub reddit.
On Lemmy you’ve got generic technology, generic news, generic videogames, generic pics, and almost everything else doesn’t get enough traction to keep living. It’s a basic population problem, the fraction of people knowing about Lemmy is just not enough to gather around shared stuff. Even those that do use Lemmy are probably not aware of every community attempt that could interest them.
I still see more communities being abandoned than new ones appearing.
lemmyingly@lemm.ee 3 weeks ago
What you describe is the main reason that’s stopping me from 100% leaving Reddit. There isn’t enough variety and there isn’t enough activity in communities that isn’t in the few popular ones. At the moment it feels like +80% of current users fit into a specific demographic.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Wayyyyyy less than 20%.
Even removing, incredibly liberal, bot percentages from reddit Lemmy is still < 0.001% of the audience
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 3 weeks ago
There are like 60 highly-specific cat subreddits but only 2 general ones on Lemmy.
ryannathans@aussie.zone 3 weeks ago
Create a problem
Sell the solution
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
According to two people familiar with the matter, World ID could soon become a way for Reddit users to verify that they are unique individuals while remaining anonymous on the platform.
Reddit knowing who I am isn’t okay though. Who tf trusts them?
bimbimboy@lemmy.eco.br 3 weeks ago
YES, PLEASE! DO IT!!! Give people more reasons to leave!!
slaacaa@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
I’m sorry Dave, I can’t let you post that.
Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
I’m 100% for technological advancement and even AI.
They will have to rip my fucking eyes out before I let them scan them with this thing.
ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 weeks ago
So how much are they paying reddit, exactly…?
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
They are not all accounted for, the lost seeing stones. We do not know who else may be watching.
artifex@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
On the one hand, I understand the inherent limitations of pseudonymous social media and why a corporation and even end users might benefit from authoritative user identification.
On the other hand, oh hell no.
floop@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 weeks ago
Exactly. Reddit isn’t my fucking bank. They don’t need to know who I am.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Your bank doesn’t even need to know who you are.
On a related note, Bank of America, if you’re reading this, my name is floop @lemmy.dbzer0.com, and I would like to withdraw all the money from my account. Nonsequential bills please!
cuteness@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
They don’t even require an email when signing up. At the same time they speed run to biometrics.
What a shit show they’ve become.
scottmeme@sh.itjust.works 3 weeks ago
Whatcha mean, they obviously need to count the wrinkles on your dirty balloon knot.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I mean, there’s someone here who has (not even exaggerating) 15+ accounts that they just rotate thru.
It’s a hassle to block them all because I still see new ones, but I’ll take that over “proving myself” as a unique person with something like this.
glimse@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I haven’t seen like any hilariouschaos users in awhile
acosmichippo@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
I don’t think psudonyms are an issue, but verifying that a user is an actual person vs an AI chatbot is absolutely something that social media will need to tackle at some point.
SpatchyIsOnline@lemmy.world 3 weeks ago
Hmm funny how Sam Altman is one of the few people responsible for creating that problem and now he’s selling the solution to it
NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 3 weeks ago
Why? Internet rules from the days gone by - everyone is a liar. So it shouldn’t matter.
passepartout@feddit.org 3 weeks ago
Will they though? Facebook has already created undisclosed bot accounts themselves before. A Platform where real users and such bots are indistinguishable (for the user) sounds like a social media corpos and governments wet dream to me. Also reminds me of the attempts to disguise ads as natural content.
deathbird@mander.xyz 3 weeks ago
As explained, it’s not even quite user identification, but rather verification of a unique individual. The ability to identify that an account is held by a unique person (as opposed to possibility being one of many puppet accounts) is pretty useful, particularly if it’s not possible to backtrace it to an otherwise identifiable person.
Even so, the problem I see with this system is that a person has to be careful to never, ever, ever associate their unique ID with themselves, though there will be constant pressure to do so.