So how much are they paying reddit, exactly…?
Reddit in talks to embrace Sam Altman’s iris-scanning Orb to verify users
Submitted 9 months ago by return2ozma@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
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ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Smoogs@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Humans with human eyeballs are still using Reddit? I thought it was just bots moderating bots by now.
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
happy cake day
AcidicBasicGlitch@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Who TF is actually going to want to use these platforms bad enough to do this shit?
Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.
Reddit is mainly just very poorly disguised government surveillance and AI generated advertisement, and none of the content is even enjoyable or enticing. Who TF is their target audience?
m0darn@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Facebook sucks and has for quite some time.
In Canada we passed a regulation that social media sites have to pay our media companies to link to their articles. Google is paying up, but Facebook said no, and has banned news. It has made Facebook here much less terrible.
GooseFinger@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
You severely overestimate how much the average person cares about their own privacy.
realitista@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Even so, are they going to acquire, set up, and use an iris scanner just to remain anonymous on Reddit?
46_and_2@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Who TF is their target audience?
Useful idiots
winni@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Bots
RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 9 months ago
…this isn’t satire?
wintermute@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
Every frickin day… at least once, I read a post’s title and start looking around for clues that it’s not real… My mind goes: “is it the onion? Is it April’s fools again already? This can’t be true…”
SpiceDealer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Thanks Reddit for giving me yet another reason not to go back
possumparty@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I got banned for more or less saying Elon is a miserable twat who deserves bad things to happen to him on that one thread where people went full board on the gruesome depictions and that was enough for a permaban. Fuck Reddit.
squaresinger@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I got banned for saying that poisoning an invasive species like cats isn’t any different than poisoning an invasive species like rats, except that cats are cute and fluffy and rats are not.
It was under a post about the Australian government putting up poison traps to combat the local cat population which is threatening local endangered wildlife.
F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You’d have to get me high on PCP + cocaine + some sort of crazy shit like krokodil to just implant the idea that I need to verify my very existence to a private company to post comments online or to enjoy a website.
Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This will do it. It will finally kill reddit.
lostoncalantha@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Been trying to get people on Reddit to cross over to the light over here but damn it’s hard
realitista@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Why? I don’t want anyone here who it’s not self evident to that it’s better here. For it to stay a better place it needs to keep better people who can make their own decisions using their brains.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 9 months ago
Sicko.yes.gif
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
ky56@aussie.zone 9 months ago
And I was worried that it was the Australian Governments Digital ID shit that would be what gets in my way. You know what reddit, just do it. It would be the kick I need to completely drop reddit.
maxxadrenaline@lemmy.world 9 months ago
whatever me and everyone else useful is banned. reddit can do whatever the fuck it wants its just a bunch of white supremacists i think.
rozodru@lemmy.world 9 months ago
there’s such a painfully obvious agenda over there with the admins. I got a 7 day ban for knocking russians and saying “slava ukraini” then I got a perm ban a week after that for posing the question “how long until an average citizen with an AR decides to deal with ICE themselves?” because apparently both times I was “inciting violence against a minority” because Russians and ICE agents, according to Reddit, are minorities
realitista@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The Russia part is still how it works in .ml.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
i have a novelty account i kept around and i just post luigi pictures whenever it gets unbanned. it has probably only been unbanned a week this year
pyre@lemmy.world 9 months ago
lol
lmao, even
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Reddit wants to become bots talking to bots
slaacaa@lemmy.world 9 months ago
gleb@lemmy.world 9 months ago
FUCK no.
Retrograde@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I thought this was an onion article or something
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Sure…as if they get my bio-data. That company will at best get a 1-way salted hash.
davidagain@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Scan your biounique eyeball to provide ID wrist retaining your anonymity???
Anonymity and the ability for someone else to prove it was me are nearly opposites.
jwmgregory@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
I mean, I don’t trust OpenAI or Reddit either but these two things are as mutually exclusive as they seem.
With zero-knowledge principles you could maintain anonymity while still verifying identity. Doesn’t mean that’s what big tech is doing or is gonna do, but also doesn’t mean it’s physically unreal or anything either. We could build a not shitty system.
Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Identity does not need to be verified by a private company’s scan of someone’s eyeballs.
davidagain@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Biounique id is an advertiser’s wet dream and I don’t think it’s theoretically possible to prevent it from being exploited for profiling by Google. If the hashed encrypted token retains the uniqueness then it points to you as an individual across time, devices and location changes. There is no escaping this ID.
Google and other multinational corporations WILL know where you live and can figure out all your personal characteristics with a little time. Your anonymity is gone forever.
Lanske@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Glad i left Reddit a while back
atlien51@lemm.ee 9 months ago
I really hope this drives a ton of users to Lemmy. I love this platform but it sadly really feels like a 20% Reddit :/
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 9 months ago
It’s a solution to a problem Lemmy will soon have in that case.
Which is bots.
Lemmy isn’t flooded with bots and astroturfing because it’s essentially too small to matter. The audience is something like < 0.001% that of reddit.
Once it grows the problem comes here as well, and we have no answers for it.
It’s a shitty situation for the internet as a whole, and the only solution is verifying humans. And corporations CANNOT be trusted with that kind of access/power
iamkindasomeone@feddit.org 9 months ago
Note: Make the UX on Lemmy even worse to keep the Redditors out!
atlien51@lemm.ee 9 months ago
Well said!! :)
brsrklf@jlai.lu 9 months ago
A lot less than 20% when it comes to specific subjects. The great thing about reddit was finding communities around just about every topic or hobby. If 100 people had a passion for something they could meet on Reddit and still have a comfy, somewhat active sub reddit.
On Lemmy you’ve got generic technology, generic news, generic videogames, generic pics, and almost everything else doesn’t get enough traction to keep living. It’s a basic population problem, the fraction of people knowing about Lemmy is just not enough to gather around shared stuff. Even those that do use Lemmy are probably not aware of every community attempt that could interest them.
I still see more communities being abandoned than new ones appearing.
JuxtaposedJaguar@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
There are like 60 highly-specific cat subreddits but only 2 general ones on Lemmy.
lemmyingly@lemm.ee 9 months ago
What you describe is the main reason that’s stopping me from 100% leaving Reddit. There isn’t enough variety and there isn’t enough activity in communities that isn’t in the few popular ones. At the moment it feels like +80% of current users fit into a specific demographic.
douglasg14b@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Wayyyyyy less than 20%.
Even removing, incredibly liberal, bot percentages from reddit Lemmy is still < 0.001% of the audience
ryannathans@aussie.zone 9 months ago
Create a problem
Sell the solution
vext01@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
It reminds me of the eyeballs in linqspace in Beneath a Steel Sky.
echodot@feddit.uk 9 months ago
If World ID becomes one of Reddit’s third-party providers, it would be good news for Tools for Humanity, which was founded six years ago with the lofty goal of providing a universal basic income to the world by offering them cryptocurrency called Worldcoin in exchange for scanning their eyeballs with an Orb.
What the actual fuck.
Seriously how on Earth is that supposed to work?
shani66@ani.social 9 months ago
Selling data on people is a lucrative business. Although it is a business and not UBI.
echodot@feddit.uk 9 months ago
Okay I’ve scanned my eyeball and I’ve got some of their worthless cryptocurrency. What about next month, do they want me to scan my eyeball again, because I guarantee it won’t have changed.
slaacaa@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I read about this a few years ago, and even saw them in a mall in Western EU.
The whole thing is just bio-data mining, and they started by preying on some poor regions inf Africa
frank@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
It’s just a buzzword volly to get people to want to surrender more data. Actually insane premise lmao
PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 9 months ago
Lemmy gonna get crowded soon
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 9 months ago
I wish. I have noticed that I don’t see many Lenny endorsements anymore, I wonder if they remove those (I know my comment has been removed couple of times).
JayGray91@piefed.social 9 months ago
Probably still do quite a lot. I still have my account there in case there are calls to promote the fediverse.
They left Digg posts alone for now though. I know it's another boiling pot, dont have to remind me.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
Pondering my deleting my reddit account again
PagPag@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Again? Lol just do it
Tronn4@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They can scan these nuts
InnerScientist@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Scan on deez
dkn2038@lemmy.world 9 months ago
they already have too much info from their users, same as facebook… years ago things like this were heavily rejected (like PIPA act when the SOPA almost happened)
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
They are not all accounted for, the lost seeing stones. We do not know who else may be watching.
AoxoMoxoA@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Lmao No
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
I would not ponder this orb
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Adam ruined reddit.
(Go with me on the joke, reddit was ruined long long time ago. Adam did an endorsement of Orb a few weeks back, got called out and did an apology.)
I’M STILL BLAMING CONOVER THO
Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 months ago
It was so weird that he even did that.
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
So much of what creating privacy busting biometric databases claim to do could be accomplished with speed-of-light geofencing, a.k.a. “distance-bounding protocol”. If a moderator decides messages from country X are problematic, then they can flag/block them for other users. It only requires carefully measuring ping times and basically involves banning traffic from places that can’t achieve certain minimum pings to certain trusted servers.
danzabia@infosec.pub 9 months ago
I can see why Reddit needs to secure the user base. As not accounts proliferate they need to be able to demonstrate verified real users to their advertisers. Unfortunately for privacy, this will be widespread, in that case. I’m opting out.