Firefox and ublock.
Google confirms more ads on your paid YouTube Premium Lite soon
Submitted 10 months ago by moe90@feddit.nl to technology@lemmy.world
https://www.neowin.net/news/google-confirms-more-ads-on-your-paid-youtube-premium-lite-soon/
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Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf 9 months ago
FireWire400@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The ads will continue until morale improves.
m3t00@lemmy.world 9 months ago
remember when paying removed ads? crazy i know. no subs ever.
pfr@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Why has no one heard of FREETUBE!?!?!?
saimen@feddit.org 9 months ago
I hope more and more people learn that spotify can also be used to host videos.
TRock@feddit.dk 9 months ago
Wut
alphabethunter@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They have clips from songs, so yes, I guess. I’m not sure if anyone can host a video there though.
moopet@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
“Premium lite”? What is this doublespeak?
Lemminary@lemmy.world 9 months ago
YouTube became shittier, what’s new.
QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
UBlockOrigim
Cocopanda@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I still use an ad blocker. They can fuck themselves in the ass. I’ll never stop.
jmf@lemm.ee 9 months ago
All the people saying “I’ll just stop using it, no big loss,” are you only using YouTube for fun? Have you never needed to pass a class, prep for a job, work on a house, learn a skill using it?
It is such a large repository of human knowledge that is so far not widely replicated anywhere else. I rely on it for learning skills to provide for my family, as far as learning other useful abilities.
For example, YouTube taught me how to service my own vehicles. I have a specific set of old 90s Volvo cars, and there is a youtuber (Robert DIY) who does an excellent job documenting how to do maintenance on them. I have done my best to archive everything he posts, but he is just an example, as there are countless other informative tutorials and how-tos posted on YouTube.
As of now, Google has their grips on an enormous amount of practically useful data, and they know it. It’s beyond fucked, and to act like it is inconsequential or ignorable is very short sighted.
VeloRama@feddit.org 9 months ago
To keep using walled gardens like Youtube, Reddit or Discord in an effort to share and preserve knowledge is just a losing proposition. The sooner we stop using them, the less of a headache it will be when the companies behind these gardens decide it’s finally time to cash out and start to charge for access.
The knowledge you grow in a walled garden doesn’t belong to you.
ntd_quiet@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
It reminds me of Reddit (human solutions/ideas for random problems and interests), except the costs of storing and serving video are probably really high with a large userbase. (I wonder exactly how high, though. I’m sure it’s hard to put a single unit price per GB/hour or whatnot, but still . . .) It’s unfortunate that so many people have put so much work into sharing their knowledge but have basically experienced vendor lock-in.
Just recently I found old reddit and forum threads and a few YouTube videos that helped me and a buddy fix her car. The solution(s) was provided by just enthusiasts and random people helping others in their spare time by documenting stuff. Although there’s also a lot of unhelpful threads and videos out there too, lol.
benjaminb@discuss.tchncs.de 9 months ago
You are absolutely right!
Knowledge is power - Google has tons of it. Not only on YouTube, but also the data they collect about every user, every click and interaction, etc.
I think the Tech-Giants have way too much power and even have some sort of monopoly. Like you said: No one has or even can recreate something like YouTube. Same with (for example) Microsoft. Even though FreeBSD, Linux Distros, OpenBSD, … gain popularity, they are nowhere near Microsoft’s Windows (or any other Product). And if you look at schools, businesses or governments, they (for some ungodly reason) use and pay for Microsoft products. Children get hooked on their Products in school!
Something has to change, I honestly don’t know what exactly, but these monopolies destroy our freedom! Maybe it would be better, if our countries had politicians, that do their work, not care about some “make America great again” shit.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
What pisses me off most is that the way the internet works now is that ten years ago, someone who wanted to share about how to service your 90s Volvo that would have written it on a web page with a few photos that would have been quicker, cheaper and easier to write, quicker and easier to read, and cost next to nothing to host.
But because Google control fucking everything, that same person is now heavily incentivized to make it a pointlessly long video instead, that took days to make and edit, and is harder to use while working, and if they don’t do that then they ain’t getting anywhere near the top of the search results and you weren’t going to find it anyway.
It sucks and I can’t wait for people to wake up and tell Google to fuck off and stop ruining the internet.
viking@infosec.pub 9 months ago
Youtube has ads? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 9 months ago
No time like the present to begin creating a European alternative, given the geopolitics of the times.
skisnow@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Please support peertube, it’s kind of like the Lemmy of streaming videos in that it’s a federated collection of providers.
A list of instances: https://joinpeertube.org/instances
e.g. peertube.tv
boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Wait. I pay for YouTube with my time, the most important resource I have access to. There’s a level where you pay money and STILL SEE ADS?
moopet@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I pay money to ride on the bus and still see ads there.
boughtmysoul@lemmy.world 9 months ago
The bus doesn’t stop when you look at an ad.
Try harder.
waspentalive@lemmy.world 9 months ago
And you should not. But perhaps you would not want the fares to rise?
umbrella@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
[deleted]mechoman444@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Youtube ads? I have no clue what you’re talking about…
waddle_dee@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Well, I’m still happy that my grandfathered $7.99 plan from the GPM days still holds up, fully ad-free.
unphazed@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Watch your card on file. I had the whole enchalada once and loved using the music app and no ads. Card expired for one payment, sub cancelled, and I fixed it immediately. They wouldn’t give it back to me, and refused to refund the larger payment for just Youtube.
Alpha71@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ve recently been getting warning notices on Firefox that “AdBlockers are not allowed on YouTube!” I laugh and continue on.
Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 months ago
i actually never got that from youtube, im using ubo, and other adblockers too.
minorkeys@lemmy.world 9 months ago
They will always want you to watch more ads. Doesn’t matter that you literally pay them not to. Manipulating your purchase habits is more profitable than your subscription is because your tolerance for ads sets the amount they can sell.
Joeyowlhouse@lemmy.wtf 9 months ago
YouTube has so many ads now it’s ridiculous. Yesterday YouTube threatened me with the popup even though I have UBlock on Firefox. I’ve seen 10 ads on a 20 minute video. As if the un-skipabble 2 minute long ads that pause when you switch tabs wasn’t bad enough, YouTube is now putting ads in their Premium.
YouTube is in dire need of a competitor and fast.
Penny7@lemmy.world 9 months ago
_core@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Why bother to pay if you’re just going to get ads anyway
waspentalive@lemmy.world 9 months ago
<gangster> It would be a shame if you were not to pay and had more ads than content. </gangster>
Etterra@discuss.online 9 months ago
We have network television at home.
ChickenAndRice@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I keep noticing people in this thread recommending UBlock Origin, with others replying that they eventually got a popup to turn off their adblocker.
This is usually followed by replies mentioning they just click X (or add a UBlock filter on the popup), and go on with watching Youtube. No problem, right?
According to Ublock Origin’s Redd*t Post, that is just the first warning stage; eventually the presentation of their anti-adblock message becomes more intrusive until you receive the “The in-player message. Playback is stopped.”
I should know. I get that message on any Youtube video (while logged in), and it doesn’t go away for several hours.
That said, my workaround (extremely hacky) was to find the RSS feeds for all of my channel subscriptions, and then add them to FreshRSS. That section of my RSS feed essentially acts like a Youtube subscription page, but not tied to an actual account.
On my computer: I watch them in a private browser Firefox profile I’ve dedicated solely to Youtube (and has all of the extensions already installed, of course).
On Android: I watch them using NewPipe.
buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Why are you censoring the word reddit? Is that a joke?
Taleya@aussie.zone 9 months ago
Even quicker fix: logout.
Admittedly i’m not a huge youtube watcher, but since logging out there’s not a single damned nag when i run a marathon
Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 months ago
i dont log in, for the purposes of google gathering more data about you. and also i would get in the habit of commenting on videos, which i dont do anymore.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Same. I use it in a dedicated Firefox container, so if I ever get a nag, I’ll clear the cores all cookies in that container and I assume that’ll reset whatever that is.
terminhell@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ubo and ff mobile: I got the warning for the first time yesterday. Closed ff completely and it went back to normal. I also run pihole too, so maybe a mix of them together has kept my account ‘safe’ still. And I’m still yt freemium. FF mobile with desktop site enabled allows for audio play back with screen off btw.
glitchdx@lemmy.world 9 months ago
if this happens to me I just won’t watch youtube anymore. It’s mostly garbage content anyway.
eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Previously I had the warnings until uBlock killed them. Only one has made it through in recent times, we’ll see how things keep going.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ublock orgins on Firefox has worked for me so far on both pc and mobile. No warnings.
I do also have umatrix on pc, but I can’t really recommend it for everyone since it requires some setup on every web page which most people would find too annoying.
fungalfelidae5@lemm.ee 9 months ago
get ublock or revanced
lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 9 months ago
I’m self-hosting Invidious… I get a nice YouTube experience without ever visiting YouTube.
alekwithak@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Wasn’t aware of this, that’s awesome. Unfortunately it would need to be able to cast to various HTPCs and be easy enough for my family to use to fully replace YouTube in my house.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’m never going to pay to see ads in my life. Nope.
96VXb9ktTjFnRi@feddit.nl 9 months ago
Sadly I do so every week when going to the cinema
PalmTreeIsBestTree@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Go 20 minutes late my dude
Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah, horrible innit? When I used to go to the cinema as a kid in the 70s and 80s, you’d get maybe ten minutes of trailers before your film. And I never minded that, I don’t dislike watching trailers. These days, totally different. Last time I went to the cinema there was maybe half an hour of ads. Some trailers, but mostly just advertisements for crap.
It is so fuckin disrespectful to their customers. If I wanted to see all that bullshit, I could have stayed home and watched it on TV. Except I don’t watch TV because the experience is so poor - largely because of ads.
I understand that cinemas have been struggling ever since covid, even before, and I understand that advertising revenue pays the bills. But cinema isn’t cheap, for me it’s an occasional treat when there’s something I really wanna see on the big screen. I do not want to spend that much money and get treated like a fuckin farm animal being fed crap. Wankers.
I can’t be alone in feeling this way, who wants to pay to see ads? Who thinks that sounds like a great evening out? It ruins the experience, and it’s insulting, by the time the movie starts I’m angry. I’d rather pay a bit more and just have a couple of trailers.
I recently went to a small autonomous cinema with a mate and saw Mulholland Drive. Great experience, comfy seats, could bring in drinks from the bar, no fuckin ads. But for new films there aren’t many options. So I don’t often go to the cinema.
Sorry for this long and bitter diatribe! You just hit on something that really pisses me off too.
sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I haven’t gone to a movie in like… 10 years probably. Ha…
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 9 months ago
To remove ads subscribe to Youtube Premium Platinum Plutonium and select the Ad-Free! add-on (for only an additional $2.95/mo)*.
*first month price only, increases to $5.95/mo after 30 days **
**with annual subscription; monthly rate $7.95/mo.
CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Oh good, we’re not up to having to provide bone marrow (yet).
Auli@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Or use stube on android tv and recanced on phones. One of the reasons I can’t go to iOS.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 9 months ago
I had to go iOS because of… reasons,but you can sideload modded youtube app, with sponsorblock. exactly as on android,but with many headaches like token expiry every week and other bullshit issues like google not allowing IPAs directly in github repos.
Lame, but it can be done.
InputZero@lemmy.world 9 months ago
These terms of service can only be updated by GOOGLE at anytime with or without notice. You hearby agree to this term of service and, any and all updates, without review, made by GOOGLE to the terms of service.
nodiratime@lemmy.world 9 months ago
*By enabling the VIP package in addition, we guarantee to not update the TOS more than once every second.
grandma@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I would actually pay for YT premium if it was reasonably priced and I think there are many like me. Why are they shooting themselves in the foot?
mkhopper@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Why? Greed.
And they’re not even shy about it.I made this comment some time ago on another thread about YouTube ads.
With the sheer number of concurrent users, worldwide, 24/7, YouTube could show one ad every three or four videos, and still make a mind boggling amount of money.
But if some money is good, more must be better, right?sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Same. They should have a lower tier where your first N hours of watch time have no ads. I don’t watch a ton, so that would probably convince me to pay.
redwattlebird@lemmings.world 9 months ago
Because of the desire for infinite growth. The line must go up 💹
madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I’ll never pay for until until 1. It’s reasonably priced, 2. Downvotes are returned and 3 sponsor block is integrated into the app.
ClamDrinker@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Can I add 4. the integrated video downloader actually downloads videos, in whatever format you would want, and with no internet connection required to watch them. This to me is still the biggest scam ‘feature’ of Youtube Premium. You can ‘’‘download’‘’ videos, but not as eg. an mp4, but as an encrypted file only playable inside the Youtube app, and only if you connected to the internet in the last couple of days can you play it.
That’s not downloading, that’s just jacking my disk space to avoid buffering the video from Youtube’s servers. That’s not a feature, that’s me paying for Youtube’s benefit.
I cancelled and haven’t paid for Premium in years because of it. When someone scams me out of features I paid for, I don’t reward that shit until they either stop lying in their feature list, or actually start delivering.
Auli@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Sponsor block is not going to be included as those are not controlled by YouTube. They are the Chanel’s sponsorship.
TootTootComingThru@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I actually paid for it for a bit after I got a few months free with a Pixel a while ago. And it was pretty good and reasonably priced.
Then they started removing features (no dislike bar for you lol) and raising the price and I’m never giving them a single goddamn cent or not using a block on their shit.
I’ve since cancelled and transitioned from workspace or whatever they call it now and use Revanced, ublock origin, etc. They actually had my money and they fucked it. Never again. Get fucked, Google and the shit huffing execs in charge of it.
It’s never enough for these people. They want all of your money and they won’t stop until they have it. Fucking blood suckers.
Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
If you use yt music and watch YouTube as your main entertainment, it’s well worth it imo.
With that said, I’ve been degoogling and this is probably the one I won’t be able to break.
PixiePoop@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 months ago
Same here. YT is the only Google owned service I still use. I personally don’t mind the cost, since I watch a lot and wish to support the people that make the content. I would love a proper alternative but I don’t see that happen any time soon.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Ironic that just yesterday I was getting blocked on youtube telling me that adblocking was illegal/against tos/whatever and that if i didnt want Ads I could subscribe to Youtube Premium… only now to announce ads on premium.
What a fucking shithole company.
cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 9 months ago
WE WOULDNT BE BLOCKING ADS IF YOU REGULATED ADVERTISERS LIKE YOU ARE TRYING TO REGULATE VIEWERS.
I still would.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 9 months ago
When options like uBlock and FreeTube no longer block ads, I’ll stop watching YouTube. They’ll never get a cent out of me.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 9 months ago
if ublock origin stops working, you can erase your youtube cookies or wait a few hours for a ublock origin update to work around it.
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Easiest methods to ditch Youtube ads:
- PC: Firefox + uBlock Origin
- Mac, option 1: Safari + AdGuard
- Mac, option 2: Firefox + uBlock Origin
- Android, option 1: Youtube ReVanced (FYI: ALL Play Store listings for this are fake; the official site is revanced.app and is the only place to get it)
- Android, option 2: Firefox Mobile + uBlock Origin
- iPhone/iPad: Safari + AdGuard
VeloRama@feddit.org 9 months ago
Why would I pay for premium if it doesn’t remove the ads? It’s like they don’t do market research and just make shit up.