Submitted 10 months ago by Sunny@slrpnk.net to selfhosted@lemmy.world
For Plex accounts created before March 20, 2025, we require your consent to sell your personal data as described in our Privacy Policy. You can always adjust your share/sell preferences <here>.
someone should make a jellyfish plugin that brings up a consent screen that says you consent to give yourself over to eevee and naruto.
Can’t sell my data if I’ve never given them any
Relevant XKCD: www.xkcd.com/743/
America always does what’s right, after they’ve tried everything else. - Someone
Every day of my life trying to explain to friends they need to quit using spoon fed software. Sigh.
Exactly why on so many things it’s like… even when it looks like they are getting it, they don’t get it. Kind of like watching bluesky rising right now. Unless I’m majorly missing something here. It looks like it’s kind of open and kind of federated…
Except in a form that no one can feasibly create their own node. One change in leadership or goals of leadership away, and it can turn into the same neo nazi trash that people are joining it to get away from.
spoon fed software
That’s a new one. I like it.
This hit so hard I wanna puke diamonds. Damn.
They prominently point this change out and kind of force you to choose whether you opt in or out. There is a single checkbox to opt out of all. But yes, it’s a bad direction. Just maybe not the apocalypse implied by some.
hashed email xD, if someone has email it’s just hash(email) == email. given how many emails leaked producing hashes of 90% of population emails is not a problem
Assuming they’re not salted hashes.
My aim is to get my friends and family to stop paying for streaming services and if I have to pay for Plex to achieve this then that’s a win.
Jellyfin is nowhere near as feature complete as Plex and not by a long shot. My users don’t like the UI of Jellyfin and setting up for remote access is no trivial feat. With this in mind and my goals Plex is better suited.
So far have 8 users all saving £10-40 a month not going to streaming services.
Hello Jellyfin.
Do people actually watch whatever plex streams? The only reason I use plex is to rewatch Star Trek for the 18th time.
Me eating 🍿 and reading the comments of Plex users arguing with Jellyfin users, while myself being a user of Kodi which has it’s own problems…
I use the Kodi plugin for Jellyfin
I have absolutely no experience with Jellyfin, what does the Kodi plugin do?
there are dozens of us!
I’ve never seen Plex users argue in support of Plex. only comments along the lines of, “I use it because…”
the jellyfin users are generally the ones getting bent or upset because people still use Plex for their own personal reasons. they then accuse the Plex users of not contributing to jellyfin because they still use Plex. “if only you used jellyfin, xyz feature would be magically finished because you are a part of the community!”
point is, the only people arguing here are jellyfin users. Plex users are gonna Plex.
Kodi ain’t a self host tool, nor a server though but it is a great player, and I happily use the big 3, Kodi, Stremio and Plex (I’d add Cloud Stream as a runner up).
Right. Personally I don’t stream and only access my library from my TV at home. So Kodi is all I need for now. Though I’d like to try Jellyfin one day when I don’t have so much other stuff to do.
I haven’t set up Kodi, but I would assume the go-to here would be a minidlna, samba, or nfs server w/ Kodi providing the FE.
Library scans and picking up added/removed media, kill me. I love kodi, but how such a basic function can be so squirrely I’ll never understand. Maybe it’s just a quirk with NFS back ends.
I let Radarr and Sonarr handle that (including creating NFO metadata and fanart files), Kodi now only parses/syncs that local data.
This change was a huge improvement for me, though I am using SMB and not NFS. (But I assume NFS would be more robust than SMB.)
Kodi and mythtv for me. I feel like I am the slowpoke meme.
Why does nobody ever mention Emby? To me, it’s everything Plex used to be before it got enshittified!
Emby
Jellyfin exists because Emby was only open source until it wasn’t convenient. Some of their own devs pointed out they were violating the license, and their response was… non-ideal.
So Jellyfin was forked with the last fully open-source Emby code.
At least that’s my recollection several years down the line.
I decided then that no amount of headache from Jellyfin (and let me say that I was an EARLY jellyfin adopter AND former Plex user) would be enough to get me to use Emby. (Because things like that are important to me, though I realize they aren’t important to everyone.)
And reading this thread I’m apparently a super-genius because I have my Jellyfin behind a reverse proxy and serve it to my elderly parents with a simple login and an app they were able to install, and never found it to be a headache. (Which, if I’d read this thread only, I’d conclude was just not possible without voodoo magic)
No headaches along the way, and whereas Plex had already begun the march to enshittification when I left, Jellyfin has done nothing but steadily get better.
Anyhow, longer answer than intended, but I’d go back to Plex before I’d go to Emby, just on principle.
Isn’t it proprietary?
It is, but also incredibly quick, easy to use etc.
Everything Plex used to be in the good old days imo!
I think Emby failed to get a lot of momentum due to having hardware acceleration behind a paywall, and then having jellyfin out there offering it for free. When I was first getting away from plex, emby was my first stop, and then I moved over to jellyfin shortly after because of the hardware acceleration situation.
Yeah that’s definitely true. I gladly pay for Emby and thing it’s worth every penny for how I use it. Jellyfin has got to be the best free+open one for sure.
OP is posting misleading hyperbole
This from the Plex site, emphasis mine.
Consent
We take your privacy seriously. If you’d like more details on how we collect, use, and transfer your information, please review our Privacy Policy. Plex is able to provide free-to-watch movies, shows, and live TV by displaying a modest number of ads before and during playback. While it is not possible to opt-out of these ads, you do not have to consent to the selling and sharing of certain information.
We’re never going to get anywhere if people on these communities can’t act in good faith and share correct and information - not sensation. Change the OP or mods delete this misinformation.
how dare you bring facts to this community! we just want to shit on anything but jellyfin!
Mate, I’m just posting what is on Plex’s own website. Their words, not mine. You might be able to opt out of this if you’re lucky, or maybe its off by default - idk. But let’s face it Plex is on a heavy enshittification roll, rolling faster than the contestants running for Cooper’s Hill Cheese-Rolling contest. Ain’t nothing stopping them from enabling this for all users much like what Roku did last year.
You can conscent to whatever you like. I’m not touch Plex with a stick.
Yeah, op didn’t say you couldn’t opt out of it. It’s that they’re doing it at all. Every year they ask for a little bit more info, chipping away, making it harder and more obscure to opt out. That’s enshittification.
What part of the op was misinfo? They DO sell the info, even if they claim it’s only with your consent
OP is claiming Plex will now SELL your personal data.
Omitting that the user must provide consent, not like Firefox or Adobe just updates T&C and forces user agreement. OP’s title is upvote seeking, cherry picking to quote certain text which makes it seem like they leave the user no choice, and leaving out the part of the text that stipulates the user does have to consent prior to the sale of information.
Moreover, the sale of data seems to be in order to facilitate the ads they show in their free movie and tv content, and even then is still opt in. The ads aren’t, but the data sale isn’t.
For posterity the full OP at the time of this post
Plex now will SELL your personal data
Text:
I consent to Plex to: (i) sell certain personal information (hashed emails, advertising identifiers) to third-parties for advertising and marketing purposes; and (ii) store and/or access certain personal information (advertising identifiers, IP address, content being watched) on my device(s) and share that information with Plex’s advertising partners. This data is used to deliver personalised ads and content, ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Your consent applies to all devices on which you have Plex installed. You can withdraw your consent at any time in Account Settings or using this page.
Soure: www.plex.tv/vendors/ (Might have to clear cache)
Can also read about the changes here: www.plex.tv/about/privacy-legal/
If you’re watching their “free” content and agree to that box…
The title made it seem waaaaay worse than what the screenshot actually says
Emby is a good option if you don’t want to hop to jellyfin. I have been pleased with it so far. I found the media tag/idenifier to work better/quicker than plex’s.
Can a link be provided to this consent page?
You wil have to clear your cache I think.
Jellyfin is the way. Costs nothing other than the hardware needed and nobody is selling anything about you.
Our personal streaming library with Jellyfin is bigger than any public service and we can add to it from VHS, DVD, Blueray, though extra equipment was required for the VHS/Blueray.
It’s also available anywhere we go and we can set up separate accounts for different family members. There’s even a phone app.
But not Fire tablets (kids profile) or Samsung TV or many others that Plex currently supports.
JellyFin android phone app’s UI is a little weird at times, but does work pretty well for me.
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What I would adore from any app would be an easy way to upload specific content and metadata via SFTP or to blob storage and accessible with auth (basic, token, or cloud) to more easily share it with friends/family/myself without having to host the whole damn library on the Internet or share my home Internet at inconvenient times.
Client-side encryption would be a great addition to that (eg. password required, that adds a key to the key ring). And of course native support in the JellyFin/other apps for this. It could even be made to work with a JS & WASM player.
Checkout 3rd party jellyfin android apps. Findroid is working pretty well. Theres another one called Streamyfin which is catching up and a third one called Fladder, which is maybe a bit too early in development.
on the tablet it should work fine in the browser. maybe that would also work on the TV, that’s exactly what most TV apps do anyway.
feels so much more illegal than just streaming for yourself tho
I mean you are literally hosting pirated content for anyone to see, is it denial or is it really less illegal? Yall mention multiple user accounts, if ppl pay you in any way you are now a bootlegger?
How big is that library supposed to be that it is larger than all public ones? There are some with 10’000s of videos.
We have over 15,000 videos in TV episodes, alone. Not counting movies.
So…yeah.
Selling IP address info. Huh.
I swear, I found it all on a hard drive laying in the streets, officer!
Incoming lawsuit in 5…4…
I don’t know why everyone in the selfhosting community still even mentions Plex or uses it.
It’s closed source, not free; Jellyfin is a no brainer yet people still go to Plex??
Here’s why I still use Plex: for me Jellyfin hasn’t been easy to work the way I want it to. I mostly access my media on an Nvidia Shield, and the Jellyfin Android TV app just refuses to play certain videos; I can play them if I use VLC as an external player, but not within the app itself. The more pressing issue is that Jellyfin just refuses to play 5.1 audio, and downmixes everything to stereo. I have other issues, but these are the ones that prevent me from using it.
For me Plex just works.
It might be because of security.
I don’t know why people use dishwashers. It’s in the kitchen. A lawn mower is a no brainer, yet people still use dishwashers??
Jellyfins UI being only mouse based is garbage. Using it on Xbox for instance is terrible.
I’ll switch to jellyfin as soon as it works nearly as well.
But for the moment it’s missing a lot of features compared to Plex.
I completely agree. I thought Plex would be fast in the collective rearview mirror as soon as they started forcing connections to their servers, pay-walling, etc. I also had issues with the database corrupting and causing huge slowdowns. I spent days trying and failing to preserve my ratings, watch data, etc.
In the end, I switched to a much simpler setup of an NFS/CIFS share accessed by Kodi on my Nvidia Shield TV. If Kodi chokes (happened once since 2017), I can just wipe the app and/or reinstall and then import the local metadata (XML or NFO IIRC). That takes about five minutes. It just works. Kodi also gives me access to the IAGL, so that’s a huge plus.
Because it works. Call me in a few years when movies, TV shows, dvr recordings, live TV (with free, built-in guide support), and working picture support shows up. Oh, commercial removal too (again, built-in, just check a box). A not-shit setup process would be nice, too.
I’ve tried jf three times now across as many years, and it’s still got that ‘Linux developer feel’ of a tool where the devs got what they need the most mostly-working, and just don’t give a fuck about anything else - or a decent UI. No, blue boxes on a black background is not a decent UI. It wasn’t when W8 launched, and it’s not now. And when W8 is winning the competition, you’ve already lost.
Feature parity or the argument is moot.
mwalimu@baraza.africa 10 months ago
It is as if it is a general rule at this point that centralization breeds corruption. No matter how many statements people make early on in social engagements, centralization leads them to screw people depending on these systems. When making long term commitment to anything, check if it is centralized or how easy it is to unshackle yourself from it.
cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 9 months ago
Welcome to the enshittification phase of the economy. Everything will be enshittified, even the economy itself.