Telegram and xAI agreed a one-year deal to distribute Grok; Telegram will get $300M in cash and equity from xAI and 50% of subscription revenue
Submitted 5 weeks ago by Pro@programming.dev to technology@lemmy.world
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acidbattery@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
[deleted]tfm@europe.pub 5 weeks ago
Long overdue :)
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Agreed, but which one has easy to use bots and integration into the *arr apps? I used telegram to send notifications about new movies and episodes.
krimson@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Me too. Switched to pushover. Arrrrrr apps support it just fine. And it’s free.
rdri@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I really need some free time in my life to try those arrs with unraid, and telegram bots too…
sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 5 weeks ago
So you’re telling me that Grok is so bad that they have to pay developers to integrate it? How backwards. People are willing to pay for Grok’s competitors.
mcv@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Or is xAI paying for access to Telegram conversations to train Grok?
UnculturedSwine@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
This is the reason. Telegram has data and users that can be fed to the AI and they know it. Grok is hungry.
lipilee@feddit.nl 5 weeks ago
to be fair, pretty much all ai is that bad these days :)
blady_blah@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
This is the real take away from all this. xAI is trying hard to keep up with the big-boys and has to pay a shit ton of money just to be in the game. xAI’s revenue will be in the deep red for a long time at this rate.
match@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
good news! signal has sticker packs
tahoe@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I tried to switch to Signal but it feels so damn barren compared to Telegram :(
I want to love it but they make it hard
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Signal by design can’t and won’t support big group chats.
Frankly Telegram is socially a reiteration of IRC plus blogs. There are groups where people chat, there are channels where posts have comments. Posts and their comments are visible in the associated group, so all the life of a community is in one place. That’s important for small groups and mobile devices.
Because these two things in the 00s web accounted for most of life.
A TG alternative with ActivityPub identities and proper secret chats would be nice, of course.
rdri@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
My biggest gripe with it is about electron. I refuse to keep it running on my PC. Even the damn Whatsapp converted to something better.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
signal has sticker packs
wait it does? maybe then I can convince my contacts to move there xD Seriously stickers are the main selling point of Telegram for us
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
Telegram ASTOUNDS me.
Like, there’s been several instances of them outwardly admitting that their security sucks, not to use it for encrypted chats, that they just give logs away to world governments, and yet thousands of crypto bros and bots use telegram to function, EVEN ZLIBRARY, who could just as easily set up and use Matrix, has a Telegram bot for downloading books.
YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
There goes my telegram account. Bye, you won’t be missed
NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
I don’t know why people stuck with it. I’ve used it; I get that a lot of the initial success/hype was:
- It’s not owned by Meta
- "Putin hates Durov!"
- “Unlimited” storage (lots of people using it as free cloud storage, which is dumb if you value your files)
But your messages are not E2EE by default (only “Secret Chats”, which aren’t synced across devices)…Telegram (the organization) could always read your messages. I said this so many times and got called everything under the sun.
“Why would they care about my messages though?” ------> Because $300 Million.
Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
This. The second Premium landed I was out, and it was slipping long before that.
raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Whelp. Same thought :(
REDACTED@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
So, a software that is owned by US politician is working together with software that has links to Russian government?
Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 5 weeks ago
You misunderstand. Elon is retired from US politics now, obviously, and will return to being a force of good!
andros_rex@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Hasn’t Elon said that he’s “retiring” like every month 47 has been in office?
Just bullshit to try to appease the investors.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Are we calling him a politician now? 😭
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
great advertisement for signal
whereisk@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Wondering how long has this been cooking? A year or so ago musk started attacking signal for no discernible reason and recommending telegram instead.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Eugenicists like a feather stick together.
ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
now telegram is going to insert random information about South African White genocide to every conversation. or it will be in every recommended reply at least.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
ew wtf, Telegram has been one of the less shittified ones :c
Blemgo@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Honestly, Telegramm always seemed to me a bit shifty since I learnt E2EE for chats was opt-in.
NotKyloRen@lemmy.zip 5 weeks ago
Been saying this for years. Then they introduced Premium to “help fund things” (but they’re also taking $300 MILLION from Elon, and giving them access to user data.
So will basic features stop being paywalled now? Or are people going to have to keep paying to stop random people from messaging them?
noxypaws@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
not even available on desktop clients, or for group chats
yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 5 weeks ago
Gross. So glad I deleted it and moved to Signal
MITM0@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
- Matrix (Element etc…)
- XMPP
- Session
- SimpleX
- Signal
- GNU-Jami
- Briar
ebolapie@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Briar would be great if I knew anyone who was willing to use briar
KumaSudosa@feddit.dk 5 weeks ago
Element here all the way!
elucubra@sopuli.xyz 5 weeks ago
How is Signal financed?
TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Donations and grants.
SpicyColdFartChamber@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Donations I believe.
ICastFist@programming.dev 5 weeks ago
How is it for file sharing? It’s my main use of telegram
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
XMPP for me. Signal is nice, but you’ll never know how nice and their software is very restrictive imo.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
If anybody still believed in Telegram’s trustworthiness, it should now be dispelled.
(Only kidding, there’s plenty of people who still “believe” in both Durov and Musk)
rdri@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ll think about if they also somehow prohibit 3rd party clients from removing that AI garbage.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Sad but true
ABetterTomorrow@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Big yikes
talos_the_true_god@sh.itjust.works 5 weeks ago
Nail no.1 in the coffin for me was when this Durov guy sent an unsolicited telegram-wide message on election day in my country, claiming French interference in our elections.
This is nail no.2 in the coffin.
Guess I’ll get off my lazy arse and delete my telegram account now
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
First thing i’m doing is opening a channel to run up Grok API calls maliciously
dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 5 weeks ago
I’m so glad I don’t use telegram.
LordWiggle@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
How many people pressed the play button in the image. I know I did.
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Im pretty brain rotted, but I guess I’m not quiiiite there yet…
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
who’d have thought that elon would get into bed with a ceo who was arrested for child porn
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 weeks ago
Was he?
SecretCobra85@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I haven’t heard that personally.
Entertain529@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I wonder of grok will read even secret chats KB telegram
Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
Your secret chats are already being read. Hell, secret chats are probably the first to be read.
A secret chat is only for local privacy, meaning if someone got access to your device they can’t find them, nor will you get notifications (in case your partner is watching your screen).
Back when we just had SMS and MMS, they had secret chats, too. They were blatantly marketed as tools to cheat on your partner. GO SMS was one of the first to use them. Its not so blatant anymore, but its still the primary use for “secret” chats.
I remember reading an article that someone figured out everyone’s GO SMS images (even secret ones) were uploaded online without any security whatsoever. You could put in the url and some random numbers and get any pictures and voice clips ever sent. And they never fixed it even after it was leaked.
So yeah, not so secret. You want secure.
Entertain529@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
I thought secret chats were E2EE and weren’t stored on servers. That doesn’t necessarily mean Grok can’t read them if it’s not server side, but that’s what I’m curious about.
maki@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
Can this be a joke pleaseeeee ?
rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I’ve seen posts in TG that yes, this is a joke and there’s been no such deal.
kazerniel@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Reuters reports it’s true: Telegram, Musk-owned xAI partner to distribute Grok to messaging app’s users | Reuters
unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 5 weeks ago
Im glad the EU started early with sanctioning Telegram, it will make things easier now. This is just a blatant attempt at enforcing Russian political influence.
mwguy@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
What is the fediverse chat equivalent?
Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 weeks ago
If you want something more like the fediverse itself, then Matrix. If you want something closer to Telegram out of the box without setup, then Signal or SimpleX.
lepinkainen@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Signal doesn’t have bot support, so it’s hardly a Telegram equivalent sadly
Matrix works though, but it has the fediverse problem of “which instance do I pick?”
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
XMPP
Rodancoci@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I use matrix synapse. You can self host or join an existing server.
0xD@infosec.pub 5 weeks ago
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
"Eat moar AI! EAT IT!! EAT the AI you peasants!"
Cocopanda@futurology.today 5 weeks ago
I guess I will never use xAi.
MazonnaCara89@lemmy.ml 5 weeks ago
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I only use telegram to buy illegal iptv subscriptions. Is there a reason I would ever need grok in there?
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Yes, because we’re only a few weeks away from Artificial General Intelligence, which will create an Artificial Superintelligence, and it’ll be just like in the hit cyberpunk novel, Don’t Create the Torment Nexus.
philpo@feddit.org 5 weeks ago
Fascist media meets fascist media… well…
boonhet@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
If Grok starts responding with “idk I wanna kill myself” to “what do you want for dinner”, I’m quite sorry, those are my conversations. To be clear, I’m not the one who constantly wants to die.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
You should be using Signal anyway.
doodledup@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
I think Telegram is more of a social media than a messenger.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
What, like Instagram kind of thing?
BreakerSwitch@lemm.ee 5 weeks ago
In my experience, telegram is one of those “if someone asks you to go on this app, they’re trying to scam you” platforms. Flatly avoid.
Maxxie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 weeks ago
I cant schedule an appointment at the vet with signal.
just_another_person@lemmy.world 5 weeks ago
Well if you tell them you are using Signal and they adopt it, you sure can.
What is your imaginary boundary here where Telegram makes this easier somehow?
noxypaws@pawb.social 5 weeks ago
there’s this old thing called the telephone
or if they’re insufficiently modern (in a good way) a website