pngcrush gets it down to 21.1 kB with no loss of quality.
I tried posting the file, but Lemmy converts it to the atrocious webp format automatically.
this post is just 42kib
Submitted 2 months ago by einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/c7c95aa5-8fa8-4c3f-b71e-aef801a52019.png
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PartyAt15thAndSummit@lemmy.zip 2 months ago
ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Everyone should use jxl for their photos
WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
JXL for the win! when will we get support for it in firefox though…
levzzz@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Never…
twice_hatch@midwest.social 2 months ago
twice_hatch@midwest.social 2 months ago
Excuse me, I forgot the text. Wouldn’t be fair without all that entropy. To make up for it, I turned on chroma subsampling. This one is 39 KiB.
Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 months ago
To be more accurate, the dithering was more specific to animated gifs and not static pictures.
einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
how small can u get this with the text still readable?
insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
I turned on chroma subsampling
43KiB, though obviously a chunk of that is from the colors of the jpg Professor.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Dithering is much older than jpeg.
They used dithering in printed media, so it was transfered to digital media as a way to save on color depth, before jpeg got invented.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
aeronmelon@lemmy.world 2 months ago
We listened to music as 41kB RealAudio files that sounded like the song was underwater, which was the style at the time.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
Fyi, dithering hinders most modern compression algorythms, making the pic bigger.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Dithering is so fucking cool. At some point I wanna check out that game that uses a ton of really sylized dithering - return of the obra djin I think?
VitoRobles@lemmy.today 2 months ago
Obra Dinn’s filter hurt my eyes. A lot of these filters do and glad many are toggles in the options.
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 months ago
That’s very fair, that’s a consequence of using a shader based artstyle I really hadn’t considered
tiramichu@lemm.ee 2 months ago
Dithering is still to this day extremely useful for making custom wall art in Minecraft using maps, because maps have a very specific and limited pallette.
Saltycracker@lemmy.world 2 months ago
They looked like they just came from a vault from fallout
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
Back when image compression was just reducing the resolution and color depth.
einfach_orangensaft@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
i mean yeah, its a honest loss of information, jpg on the other hand introduces compression artifacts that are basically hallucinations, meaning it pretends to have more data than it actually has and humans compensate for that thru image recognition and fantasy.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
I mean, that’s what dithering is
An artifact that your brain processes as something else.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
It’s really only helpful for formats that will be directly read by hardware (the video chip) and where the “compression” ratio (I would prefer the term quantization) needs to be fixed. For file compression, which was quite mature but CPU- and memory-intensive at the time, the dithering only makes it more difficult to compress further.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
What do you mean “at the time”?
What time are you talking about?
CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 2 months ago
JPEG also reduces color depth as it’s first step but just in a smarter way. RGB is converted into YCbCr.
PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 month ago
You’ve phrased this like a disagreement, but I don’t see how.
Although maybe I’m just so jaded, that people providing interesting tangentially related trivia are perceived as being hostile unless they announce that as their intent, because usually unannounced trivia is leveled as an attack.
tias@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
This.exe file including music and visuals is 4KB
elvith@feddit.org 2 months ago
What about 256 byte executables? That’s a 16th of 4KB!
Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 2 months ago
Oooh now we’re getting into drive formatting choices and filesystem quirks!
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
All this dithering, dilly-dallying und stinkin-thinkin!
realitista@lemm.ee 2 months ago
I miss dithering. It’s got a certain je ne se qua.
_cnt0@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Mmh, diffuse dither … give me some Bayer dither!
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I mean… if we reeeaaally wanna carbon date ourselves…
Image
AtariDump@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Image
Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 months ago
The whole man is insufficient Data, I love Data so much 🥹
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
All that’s missing is the modem ear rape.
Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Pretty sure modem noises were the inspiration behind dubstep.
FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 2 months ago
There were reports of teenage boys becoming so conditioned that they would get an erection when they heard a modem dialling
The internet has always been about porn
The first ever image digitally transmitted was a playboy centrefold. “The Lena”
Stylofox@lemmy.cafe 2 months ago
I remember when it went down by half an inch a second. Those were the times
tiramichu@lemm.ee 2 months ago
And websites would have a link to a page and say “Warning! This page contains a lot of pictures!” so you wouldn’t click it unless you were prepared to put your other browsing on hold for a little while
bus_factor@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Didn’t GIFs load from the bottom?
Jimmycakes@lemmy.world 2 months ago
No. You’re thinking of jifs
Verat@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
It was top to bottom unless the image had a rotation flag in it. I don’t remember if it was just PNG that had that or if other formats could too.