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Nintendo reserves the right to brick your console following "unauthorised use", in bid to prevent piracy

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Submitted ⁨⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world⁩ to ⁨games@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.eurogamer.net/nintendo-reserves-the-right-to-brick-your-console-following-unauthorised-use-in-bid-to-prevent-piracy

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  • jaschen@lemm.ee ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    So a few years ago I wanted to play a Japanese version of a rhythm game that isn’t available to purchase in the USA and decided to try my hand at modding my switch for this one game.

    After(poorly) doing it, I wasn’t able to play that game AND Nintendo bricked me. All my games on my switch that I purchased were unable to download or play anymore.

    So I went and set out to mod my switch correctly.

    Now if I actually wanted to give Nintendo money, they won’t allow me to. So my only option from then on is to pirate.

    They basically turned a potentially paying customer to a non paying customer.

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    • Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      So, this is a basic security principle. If the system of access is too “secure” or too inconvenient, people will create workarounds.

      Need keys for all the doors every second of every day? You’ll find duct tape on all the latches.

      Password is 15 characters and changes every 60 days? You’re going to find post-its under keyboards.

      Spread all digital content across 8 streaming providers that cost about $180/y? Torrent time.

      Nintendo wants to brick users for trying to play an out of region game they paid for? They’ll never pay again and will reverse engineering your shit out of spite.

      Same thing we saw with the music industry utterly failing to embrace internet distribution. Limewire and bearshare are their fucking lunch.

      When will they learn to just make access easy? People, generally, would rather pay than pirate but when you start making shit difficult, nobody wants to play your games anymore and you see massive losses.

      Meet your customers where they’re at!

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      • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        Doesn’t Xbox let you change your console’s region in the settings?

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  • bread@feddit.nl ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’ve been pretty consistently buying Nintendo consoles, but I’m not buying this one. Not just because of this, but I challenge these assholes to brick the device I end up playing their games on.

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  • VirgilMastercard@reddthat.com ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I’m gonna pirate some Nintendo games just out of spite, really.

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  • ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    At this point I’m surprised Nintendo still allows people to play their games at their own homes, and not exclusively in official Nintendo-branded Play Rooms that only exist in like 6 places outside Tokyo and costs $20/hr to rent.

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    • thessnake03@lemmy.world ⁨52⁩ ⁨minutes⁩ ago

      Don’t give them any ideas

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  • JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Ah. So now we’re merely ‘licensing’ physical hardware we paid for and have in our homes. right?

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    • Adalast@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      You always have with Nintendo products. They have always had very aggressive licensing practices. In the early days they were more flexing them on developers, but it does not surprise me that in the wake of everyone telling them that modding and emulators can be explicitly legal that they would turn that particularly litigious aspect of their family friendly brand on the customers.

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      • Strider@lemmy.world ⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Afaik not in Europe. But the details are probably messy.

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  • jordanlund@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

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  • catloaf@lemm.ee ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t seem how threatening to brick a device is intended to help you sell more of them. Like I was seriously considering buying a Switch 2 even recently, but this is really the nail in the coffin. Why should I pay money for something that could stop working on their whims? Because it’s not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

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    • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Because it’s not like these measures have been 100% accurate in the past.

      This is the part that really frustrates me. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not a fan of the wording here. Account ban? Sure, against TOS, etc. But affecting the device is a whole other story. Especially when prior account bans have come under dubious circumstances.

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    • arakhis_@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      youre not the exploitable target audience.

      like legit 100% evil intent, cant even argue against that

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      • Yermaw@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        The target audience still goes online. Generally Facebook and mumsnet. Wait til it happens to one of them and the stories go round like wildfire.

        With that market, especially at big luxury prices like a console, you exist solely on good faith.

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  • taiyang@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    At this point I want Switch 2 to flop so hard they go the way of the Sega and start licensing their IPs on other platforms, giving up on consoles. A shame, too, since their tech is little kid hand friendly and the PC market doesn’t seem keen on tiny screen handhelds.

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    • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      It’s a nice thought, at least.

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  • arakhis_@feddit.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    or alternatively communicated: “You will own nothing and you will be happy”

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  • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    🏴‍☠️

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  • AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Yeah, definitely gonna stop those pirates who soft/hardmod their systems and never connect to the Internet in order to dump their games! That’ll stop them!

    /s

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    • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      The problem is when a new game is released that requires an update to a later firmware version.

      I think I’ve had it before where the updates applied to the system from the game card.

      Unless I misunderstood what was happening. We will have to wait for someone to figure that out.

      I’m rooting for someone to home brew the switch 2 ASAP

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      • tiramichu@lemm.ee ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You’ll probably have a long time to wait.

        The Switch 1 was only able to run homebrew due to a hardware exploit in the CPU which allowed injection of arbitrary code. The interesting thing about that vulnerability being that since it was a hardware vulnerability, it couldn’t be patched out even after it was discovered.

        Following that incident, I’m sure Nintendo has been working especially hard to ensure there are no similar vulnerabilities existing on the Switch 2.

        That said, console hackers are an amazingly creative and talented bunch, so I wouldn’t be surprised by anything.

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      • TORFdot0@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Firmware is dumped almost immediately as well, not a big deal to update a switch offline.

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  • Zahille7@lemmy.world ⁨13⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Well that’s some fucking bullshit.

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  • mrfriki@lemmy.world ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can’t wait for Yuzu 2 to come out.

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    • drmoose@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Apparently Torzo exists already!

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  • mrodri89@lemmy.zip ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Damn, first they get shady patents and now this. They’re really on a roll for being a pretty unethical company.

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    • Quexotic@infosec.pub ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

      They’re the Disney of gaming, really.

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  • shiroininja@lemmy.world ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I don’t see how this is different from any other company. Xbox has forever done the same. I’m pretty sure Sony has too

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    • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Microsoft and Sony don’t brick your console if you hacked it; they’ll ban you from online services and possibly deny any warranty claims but not make your device a paper weight.

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      • Einhornyordle@feddit.org ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        Sony may not do it, the same way Nintendo might not do it either, but both reserve the right to do so

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    • simple@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Hilarious that this comment is so far down, Lemmy can be such a circlejerk.

      Sony and Xbox absolutely reserve the right to brick your console. IIRC Sony bricks stolen Playstation consoles if they ever connect to the internet. This is nothing new.

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  • njm1314@lemmy.world ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    They’re going to start breaking them as soon as the switch 3 is released I guarantee it.

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  • Varyk@sh.itjust.works ⁨11⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    I know it should have been earlier, but that really is the last straw for buying Nintendo products for me.

    what a shame.

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  • Kolanaki@pawb.social ⁨12⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    Can the Switch itself even be hacked to run pirated stuff? Bricking the Switch won’t stop anyone emulating on a PC lol

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