lol, Jesus. It is like what a screen writer would come up with for a movie that contained a terrible company run by terrible people doing stuff so outlandishly terrible everyone watching would think “the absurdity of the terrible is how you know it is made up”.
Facebook Allegedly Detected When Teen Girls Deleted Selfies So It Could Serve Them Beauty Ads
Submitted 16 hours ago by Iheartcheese@lemmy.world to technology@lemmy.world
https://futurism.com/facebook-beauty-targeted-ads
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flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 hours ago
can’t believe a social network started by incels in college to rate girls sexually would do something like this.
Therobohour@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
That’s 0% surprising. FB had always been about making girls feel bad. It’s in its sorce code
Jhex@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Facebook… now even more toxic than previously known!
faltryka@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
At some point we need to start criminalizing shit like this and actually holding people accountable.
land@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
💯 Big tech companies think they’re above the law.
thejml@lemm.ee 16 hours ago
Thus far, they’d basically be right. Any fines are simply chocked up to “cost of doing business” expenses and since no one wants to either make solid laws against this stuff OR hold them accountable for current ones, they’ll just keep at it.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
they ARE above the law, at least it would seem so.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
History has shown that they are.
venusaur@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
It’s so much bigger than this. It starts young. iPad kids. Strict gender roles. Sexualization of children. Learning from parents who have been conditioned by capitalism, sexism and more. We got little girls that want skincare products and teens talking about plastic surgery. It’s bad.
Agreed though. Punish people for ruining society. I think I read a while ago that France had required social media posts to flag when images have been altered. We need more laws like this too.
Little8Lost@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
As little kids we got like no genderbased education from our parents. When we moved our grandmother got a lot more control and dumped blue boyish stuff on my brother and forbid the girly things. Has never worn a dress since and now is still not willing to wear one
(it could be that us older sisters influenced that he wants to wear dresses too)
ABCDE@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
And mass sharing of images/videos which has made it so much easier to connect people, specifically in one case I saw today of someone on Telegram sharing child porn. How do you even put the cat back in the box?
Landless2029@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Oh you mean fines? Sure here’s some money $$. Meanwhile AD rev is $$$$$. Just the cost of doing business! Hahahaa
k0e3@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
TIL teen girls still used Facebook.
guywithoutaname@lemm.ee 7 hours ago
Instagram too according to the article.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I get Instagram (lots of creative types there), Facebook is a bit surprising though.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 hours ago
Saint Luigi deliver us from villains like Facebook
misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
Even though Luigi Mangione didn’t actually commit any crime and his trial is a flimsy sham, I agree. He is the public face of whoever really did it, and they are an icon of justice.
seeigel@feddit.org 12 hours ago
As if there would be no social networking without Zuckerberg.
Like any sin, the change starts with us. If we want a healthy social network, we can build a healthy social network.
JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Tom from Myspace never treated us like this.
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 5 hours ago
I’m not sure if it’s possible to build a healthy social network.
Smaller communities can work, if they’re well moderated. The small size also helps norms become established.
Once the network gets really big, you have eternal September problems. You have too many bad actors in absolute numbers to deal with.
So yeah, the problem is us but we suck.
Maybe federation would work, since that can keep the moderation workload smaller and distributed.
KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 6 hours ago
If I could go back in time to the moment when ARPANET was created and show them what it would become, I would also beg them to stop their efforts.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Praise the king!
Epzillon@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Happy I got AdNauseam after uBlock Origin. Deleted my facebook a year ago, shit is an AI slopfest built upon the greed and manipulation of every part of the chain. Defcon 31 has a good talk that brings this up. “Disenshittify or die” by Cory Doctrow, cann recommend to watch.
18_24_61_b_17_17_4@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
What’s AdNauseam?
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 11 hours ago
I support the use of AdNauseam. Not sure if there are any more extreme alternatives, I now choose to be actively hostile towards advertising/tracking rather than just passively blocking it.
Epzillon@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
My dad has been talking about wanting something like AdNauseam for years, i was very happy when i found it. The extra mile would probably be to expand it with a VPN and constantly spam clicks, clear cache, switch IP and obfuscate data. Now we just wait for someone with enough time to build it…
Buffalox@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Goddam I had to read that headline 3 times before I understood the implication!
That is outright disgusting, and such practices ought to be outlawed.
Or as Trump would say, very cool and very legal way to make money.HootinNHollerin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 hours ago
Zuckerberg’s $300 million mega yacht may be tracked here: https://www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9857511
Iheartcheese@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
JacksonLamb@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
My thoughts exactly.
chellomere@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Ah right, still in the north sea outside of Norway. Recently there was news of Sami villages being bribed to not put up a fuss when a “prominent person” wanted to go heliskiing, then his yacht arrived on site:
chellomere@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Translation of article from behind paywall: The Facebook CEO’s enormous yacht has been anchored in a Norwegian fjord near the Swedish border.
Now DN can reveal that several Sami villages have been offered compensation for not saying no to a “prominent person” going on a luxury helicopter skiing trip in the mountains.
- They wanted to buy our silence, says a representative of a Sami village.
At least three villages were contacted in March by a company that arranges helicopter skiing trips. The Sami villages have been offered compensation, ahead of a very secret group of tourists arriving to ski in the Swedish mountains in April. A Norwegian village team has also received a similar offer.
- We understood that it was something special. The organizers were very keen for us to say yes, even though this is before the calving season when the ewes are pregnant and all the reindeer are very fragile after a tough winter, says a representative of a Sami village.
Helicopter skiing in untouched lands, known as heliskiing, has been criticized by reindeer owners for destroying nature and disturbing the reindeer – and the issue has been raised by the Norrbotten County Administrative Board to the government.
According to sources from several Sami villages, the plans for this particular April visit were somewhat out of the ordinary.
The Sami villages, which use helicopters in their reindeer husbandry, were offered six hours of helicopter use by the organizer – which corresponds to around 50,000 kronor.
On April 1, one of the largest private luxury yachts in existence arrived in Bodö, Norway – something that caused a stir in the Norwegian media.
It is owned by Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of the Facebook company Meta, who is one of the richest people in the world. He is one of the billionaires who has tried to approach US President Donald Trump by, among other things, donating money.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
Can’t go skiing with the plebs, no.
TheProtagonist@lemmy.world 4 hours ago
All what they do is just so disgusting…
socphoenix@midwest.social 16 hours ago
Wonder how much of a bonus the sick fuck who pitched that got for the idea?
HeyJoe@lemmy.world 16 hours ago
Probably nothing. Most likely, a paid consultant to give ideas. And if it was a worker, they were just doing their job and at most got a “great job, keep up the good work,” praise email.
hopesdead@startrek.website 12 hours ago
This type of advertising isn’t new. There is that famous (although the claims from the father have been questioned) New York Times article written by Charles Duhigg in 2012. A father of a teenage girl in Minnesota got upset for receiving coupons from Target for infant care related products. As the story goes, he later learned his daughter was in fact pregnant. It turns out Target was using some predictive algorithm to identify would-be mothers and straight up sending them coupons for infant care products. It seems ever since this article was published that they stopped doing this in such a direct manner. Again, there have people who questioned the validity of the claims for this specific story, but Target did confirm they were doing this.
El_Scapacabra@lemm.ee 11 hours ago
My doctor’s office (allegedly) handed my info to a plastic surgery clinic so they could send me a “happy 40th birthday, now fix your sagging bullshit!”-email the literal day I turned 40.
Needless to say that put a damper on things.
People have been doing evil shit for money since the invention of money. These days it’s just automated.
nomy@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
I’d call my former Dr’s office and flip my shit. Them giving out your info may have been a HIPAA violation. You should really follow up and harass the fuck out of them.
RedPostItNote@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
Uh that’s new doctor time
fyzzlefry@retrolemmy.com 8 hours ago
Don’t normalize this
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 11 hours ago
I think I read somewhere that that was apocryphal, but it strikes me as 100% plausible. It doesn’t even have to be a matter of “write a system that detects pregnant women via their purchase history and send them coupons for maternity stuff” I think Amazon’s Frequently Bought Together feature could get it done. The same algorithm that suggests a tacklebox and some lures when you have a fishing pole in your shopping cart might recommend diapers and formula to those who buy maternity pants.
wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 16 hours ago
Who the fuck comes up with this stuff?
captainjaneway@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 hours ago
The most generous assumption is that they use statistics to determine correlations like this (e.g., deleted selfies resulted in a high CTR for beauty ads so they made that a part of their algo). The least generous interpretation is exactly what you’re thinking: an asshole came up with it because it’s logical and effective.
Either way, ethics needs to be a bigger part of the programmers education. And we, as a society, need to make algorithms more transparent (at least social media algorithms). Reddit’s trending algorithm used to be open source during the good ole days.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 16 hours ago
Can you make the algorithm that determined it was ok for you to murder Tuvix tho
RecallMadness@lemmy.nz 10 hours ago
This is the sort of thing machine learning algorithms are pretty good at at.
Coupled with however many millions of interactions a day, you would have no problem correlating changes to your algorithm against increases in revenue.
But. It’s often not that impressive. Humans are equally good at noticing patterns.
All it takes is for one person at FB to see their wife or daughter delete a post, ask them “why did you delete that post” and take away from the response of “It made me look fat” to go “there’s a new targeted ad that’ll get me a bonus”.
In a similar vein, 80% of your banks anti-fraud systems isn’t deep learning models that detect fraudulent behaviour. Instead it’s “if the user is based in Russia, add 80 points, and if the account is at a branch in 10km of Heinersdorf Berlin, add another 50…. We’re pretty sure a Russian scammer goes on holiday every 6 months and opens a bunch of accounts there, we just don’t know which ones”.
Zak@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I’d bet on it being algorithmic from Facebook because leaning into algorithms is part of that company’s culture. A bunch of manual tweaks require maintenance, though it wouldn’t surprise me if someone was thinking about this when deciding that deleted selfie should be a different signal to the algorithm than deleted picture of cat.
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
The kind of person whose past probably includes more than a few vivisected animals.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 11 hours ago
People who traded morals for money.
LainTrain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
That’s some cartoon villain level shit jfc
Grimtuck@lemmy.world 13 hours ago
Be aware that the companies would have paid Facebook handsomely to identify users in this way. The world we live in has a sickness with greed for money at its heart.
Astertheprince@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 hours ago
I’m so glad I quit Facebook long ago and also started using uBlock Origin.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
And tiktok is supposed to be our enemy?
cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 16 hours ago
Big tech is our enemy. It doesn’t matter if it’s facebook or tiktok.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
I agree!
Goretantath@lemm.ee 16 hours ago
Both can be enemies.
aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
both ARE enemies.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
I agree. I’m addressing the obvious hypocrisy of big tech
LadyAutumn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 hours ago
TikTok absolutely does the same kind of thing and worse. Engagement is all that matters. Doesn’t matter what kind, what about, or how that engagement is generated.
Headofthebored@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
I’m very skeptical that the Chinese government having your data as an American is worse than the American government and corporations (you know, the people with applicable jurisdiction) having it. Seems more likely to me that American interests just weren’t happy about a huge platform of Americans not being under their umbrella of control and censorship. Sure, you could argue that China of course has their own, but the two wouldn’t completely overlap, so there were windows where things could be freely and organically discussed and organized, without American interference. Obviously that couldn’t be allowed to stand.
ysjet@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
That’s very nice and cute that you’re skeptical, but they’re literally doing the same thing, except with a goal of weakening America instead generating more money.
Your skepticism doesn’t matter- it’s an attack on you, stop excusing it.
Drbreen@sh.itjust.works 15 hours ago
Yes there definitely would be an alterior agenda to the reasons for the push to hate on tiktok data fears. But that’s not to say that people are any safer (data wise) with US big tech.
admin@lemmy.today 15 hours ago
How did they come up with this idea? Did the algorithm suggest this pattern, or did someone in marketing come up with it?
SaladKing@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
Fucking hell. That is vile!
20cello@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
raynethackery@lemmy.world 10 minutes ago
Advertising targeted towards minors needs to be banned.