It’s a pretty bold move to advertise the inclusion of a key logger in your OS.
Microsoft rolls Windows Recall out to the public nearly a year after announcing it
Submitted 1 day ago by floofloof@lemmy.ca to technology@lemmy.world
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Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 8 hours ago
eronth@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Not just keylogger. It’s a screenlogger too.
admin@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
Ardamax Keylogger takes screenshots too, should they change the name?
turnip@sh.itjust.works 8 hours ago
Youd already be using Linux Mint or Ubuntu if you cared about not being data mined.
Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 4 hours ago
I’ve been Linux only since 2016, after a decade of "trying " to move over. I do still have a partition for the increasingly rare event that I need something MS, which so far has been one class in my University that required a lockdown browser for a test.
UsoSaito@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
Mint is easy to use too if you don’t want to fiddle around with various packages.
Novocirab@feddit.org 3 hours ago
This is a huge opportunity. All of us Linux geeks now need to be on mainstream social media platforms and actively seek out and help everyone who expresses an interest in switching from Windows to Linux.
innermachine@lemmy.world 25 minutes ago
Let me save you the trip. I have an old trash spec hp all in one that’s had the bag beat out of it, what is the best lightweight Linux distro to make this a usable web browsing and PDF file viewer? (To be used in my garage to look at FSM, wiring diagrams, play music, Google crap etc nothing demanding). I’ve tried mint and it works ok but thinking lighter weight ?
PattyMcB@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
Welp… Linux it is, then
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
Have to admit, the name “Recall” does have a better ring to it than “Take a Screenshot Every 3 Seconds”.
untakenusername@sh.itjust.works 21 hours ago
get linux if you haven’t already
if you don’t know how, ask, Lemmy is covered in Linux users
jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 1 hour ago
I ran linux mint for a couple months. It was nice. Very few problems.
Unfortunately, when I tried to install it on this newer desktop it was a shit-show. No wifi or ethernet, no hdmi, it crashed when I tried to play elden ring. I should try another distribution, but I was so distressed after two days I just rolled back. The people in the mint discord were helpful, though, and got some of the problems fixed.
Windows sucks though.
pineapplepizza@lemm.ee 15 hours ago
There are dozens of us.
j4yt33@feddit.org 12 hours ago
And my axe!
Sorry
echodot@feddit.uk 21 hours ago
I’m building a new gaming PC and it’s going to be a Linux build and if it doesn’t work the way you guys keep insisting it doesn’t ill I swear to God.
My last experience with Linux was with Ubuntu about 10 years ago and I can’t say it was a particularly great experience I’m hoping that in the last decade it’s improved its user experience.
sixty@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I’m not a Linux hater (believe it or not), but I’m definitely not an evangelist either, and I think this eternal praise for Linux is just not warranted.
If you want things to “just work” in any capacity, then you’re in for a bad time.
Personally, I don’t want Windows 11 on my next PC, but I don’t have the time or the desire to get into the troubleshooting hell that unfortunately is Linux either.
People say that anything is possible on Linux, but at the same time roast you for even thinking that it’s not gonna take enormous amounts of un-learning and self education when coming from Windows.
Linux fanboys who don’t see it’s faults can be sort of toxic.
I don’t doubt that I’ll get downvoted for this, but I think there need so be more differing opinions on Linux on here.
0xSim@lemdro.id 21 hours ago
I’m migrating to Linux Mint, 99% of steam games work as well as on windows. Those who don’t are mostly multiplayer games that insist to have some shitty kernel anticheat.
I’ll still keep windows on dual boot when I need it, though.
unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org 9 hours ago
I was in a similar boat and have found modern Linux to be somewhere between Windows XP and Windows 10 in terms of convenience and having it “just work”. However, I reckon I’ve spent less time troubleshooting than I would spend raging at the bullshit Microsoft keeps trying to shove down your throat in Windows. On balance I’m counting it as a win, and I suspect you will too.
plumbercraic@lemmy.sdf.org 17 hours ago
I also tried Ubuntu 10 years ago and threw it away in anger. Have been using mint for over a year now and game on it regularly. All I really needed to know was: use proton and add ‘gamemoderun %command%’ into the launch option of the game.
Except for mods on Nier. That was a hassle.
Its actually more annoying on the work computer. Ms office windows apps are kind of great compared to libreoffice, especially with the collaboration options. But Linux is nicer to do dev work on so ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Coldcell@sh.itjust.works 12 hours ago
Please update this if you fun into the usual brick wall of hand modifying config files or self-compiling some obscure git pull just to make basic things like audio and network work.
IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 14 hours ago
AMD or NVidia?
Most games that I play work well on Linux. Anti-cheat stuff can be an exception though so best to ensure what you enjoy works.
Hudell@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 hours ago
Just keep in mind that there are some very different options within the Linux world and different people here will push you towards different options. The two most common and most different options are Bazzite and Mint.
While both of them can definitely work well, in my experience Mint still leaves a lot of new users unsatisfied with it. I’m yet to see any windows user complain about Bazzite, so that’s my recommendation.
Either way if you try one and it doesn’t live up to your expectations, there’s still a chance the other might.
AstralPath@lemmy.ca 20 hours ago
Nobara or Bazzite are your best Linux options for gaming. I’ve been on Nobara for over a year with nothing but good things to say about the distro and its community.
tulwinn@feddit.uk 19 hours ago
I have Linux up and running and it’s definitely improved, I’ve fixed almost all the issues I’ve had previously. Unfortunately, discord is missing attenuation on Linux. This is a real problem for me and if I could find a solution, I could ditch windows.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
All of my devices except my work one are now Linux.
I have an old surface go 2 that good a massive new lease on life from using arch plasma. Double the battery life and everything. It could no longer get updates from MS because there was no longer enough space on the main drive to download and install the next update.
Then I have an old retro gaming pc that used to be for XP gaming but I ended up sticking bazzite on it for a test and it’s stayed that way and because of that when I built my girlfriend’s latest PC we decided to go bazzite desktop for her. And after getting past a few growing pains at the beginning that made it look like we made the wrong decision (due to an old 10xx gtx gpu - now on 3050) she’s been enjoying it and now it’s just standard.
Then I have my proper gaming PC that I use like a console so I put bazzite-deck on it as soon as I got an AMD card. And I’ve never felt better. HTPC console like gaming on windows was a fucking arse-on, even with steam big picture mode, because it doesn’t get all of the cool bells and whistles that let you control basic system settings right from steam like you can on steam os and bazzite deck.
For work I’ve started moving away from visual studio to VS Code (i know it’s still MS but I do C# .NET work and rider is too expensive, I don’t want a subscription for an IDE) to allow me to easily transition to fully working on Linux if the opportunity ever arises. Whether it be with my current employer and me convincing them to let me to install Linux on my laptop or with a future company. We’ll see which comes first ;)
Now it’s time to get and decouple from Google. Currently figuring out with android auto maps app I want (waze won’t run for some reason, my current winner at the moment is tom tom amigo). Then it’s on to getting a password manager, then a new browser (preferably way more lightweight than chrome) and potentially a Google pay replacement(?).
Any suggestions and opinions from anyone here - even though this is tangentially off topic - would be greatly appreciated.
domi@lemmy.secnd.me 15 hours ago
VS Code (i know it’s still MS but I do C# .NET work and rider is too expensive, I don’t want a subscription for an IDE)
VSCodium is a thing too if you want to un-Microsoft even further.
I use it for C# development on Linux and it works well.
getting a password manager
Bitwarden and Keepass are usually the go tos, depending on your use case.
then a new browser
Firefox or if you want to decouple from Mozilla as well, Librewolf works pretty well.
potentially a Google pay replacement
I’m not aware of any open Google Pay replacements other than taking a card with you.
As soon as you get rid of Google on your phone, you get rid of Google Pay.
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml 15 hours ago
Btw Rider is now free for non commercial use
mrnarwall@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
I’m going to grad school soon for cs and they require windows 11. This is gonna be a fun test in locking down my machine and only doing updates with intention
x00z@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
You can dual boot or use a virtual machine. Both are pretty easy to setup.
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 7 hours ago
I had a class that “required” Windows, I did just fine with Linux. YMMV.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca 10 hours ago
Never heard of this before. They may recommend it, but not require.
CrowyTech@feddit.uk 15 hours ago
With the efforts I’m doing to try and de-google / de-big US tech this needs to be my next move.
Trying to convince my better half to do it on his laptop is a pain. I’m under if you degoogle my chromebook now or once it loses support.
KingPorkChop@lemmy.ca 5 hours ago
I guess that means I have to break out the old GOATSE wall paper.
Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 7 hours ago
How long until Microsoft gets accused of stealing classified info?
Taleya@aussie.zone 40 minutes ago
Corporate /LTS editions don’t have this crap. MS only rapes the peasantry
tehn00bi@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
I’m sure most corporations have agreements that prevent M$ from using this. Or M$ has to host all of its data gathering on azure government.
hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 14 hours ago
I always “Recall” how shitty windows is, whenever I see the word mentioned.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 10 hours ago
We live in weird age, where using Windows is becoming harder than Linux (even though it has its own issues).
suckmykong@lemmy.cafe 15 hours ago
Ah they’re finally doing a recall. They had to admit windows was a piece of shit. Took then long enough.
Anybody knows where I can get my refunds?
DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 14 hours ago
Are they going back to Windows 10? Wow Microsoft finally a progressive?
lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
laughs in Linux
ISOmorph@feddit.org 18 hours ago
There’s nothing to laugh about. The maniacally evil thing about recall is, that it doesn’t matter what you do to keep your devices clean. If you interact with someone who doesn’t keep his devices clean, which is 100% of us, you’re on recall
RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 18 hours ago
Good thing I have no friends to interact with then! Take that, Microsoft!
poopkins@lemmy.world 12 hours ago
This comment is critical of Microsoft because the company name was mentioned in the article.
tfowinder@lemmy.ml 22 hours ago
Would be interesting to see how microsoft kills windows in the long term and then be shocked as to how this happened
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 20 hours ago
Kind of like how they fucked up and let zoom become the pandemic program everyone used despite skype being so established it had already become a verb like google? M$ really racking up those wins recently
caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 9 hours ago
Zoom was so bad, too. It was so unreliable, it was missing basic features, the UI was unfriendly.
They’ve improved on each of these things slightly since then.
But it’s a testament to how bad Skype was that Zoom was found to be preferable.jaybone@lemmy.zip 18 hours ago
Zoom was already everywhere in the business world before the pandemic.
Seems like Skype was only for personal users who were not very techy and wanted to make free calls overseas.
MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 16 hours ago
Or the windows phone too
truxnell@aussie.zone 18 hours ago
So reading more into it, it’s (currently) only on the bogus copilot+ PCs they were peddling? I’m happily on bazzite, but this is good news for my stubborn mates that haven’t touched copilot+ shit.
UpperBroccoli@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 hours ago
I would not count on them telling the truth.
I checked my Windows 11 work laptop a while ago, and that shit was enabled. Did not see that in any UI, but using command line. Said that shit was enabled and active, but apparently it was not yet doing anything. I will have to check again next time I am firing that machine up again, because I absolutely trust them to re-enable it without my consent, those bottom-feeding scum suckers.
Obligatory info on how to check and disable recall in Windows 11:
- Click on the Start button with the right mouse button and select “Terminal (Administrator)” or “Windows PowerShell (Administrator)”, or if necessary log in as administrator and confirm.
- In the Terminal or PowerShell, enter the command
DISM /Online /Get-FeatureInfo /FeatureName:Recalland press the Enter key. - If the entry “Enabled” appears next to “State”, the recall function is already activated. In this case, the function can be disabled using the command
DISM /Online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:Recall - Close the window.
From this page.
Mike_The_TV@lemmy.world 15 hours ago
Oh give it time it will appear after an update on everything else, “accidentally”.
atrielienz@lemmy.world 11 hours ago
Yeah. My entire windows machine is locked down specifically to combat the copilot ms365 plague. I’m also using Bazzite and generally loving it. But I have a work machine for work things and some of my programs require windows to work.
MyOpinion@lemm.ee 1 day ago
I opt-out.
TheFogan@programming.dev 1 day ago
Me too… well using linux is technically opting out to that right?
floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
It’s the only way to be sure Microsoft won’t sneakily turn it back on.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 21 hours ago
Just like opting out of using a Microsoft account to log into windows, the grips will get tighter and tighter over time until you are forced to use butt hole ID to unlock your screen.
Fiivemacs@lemmy.ca 1 day ago
My windows10 install still asks me to complete the setup…lol no
peculiar_goat@lemm.ee 22 hours ago
Roll it back in please.
oliver@lemmy.skumring.com 20 hours ago
embed_me@programming.dev 23 hours ago
Get recalled
deczzz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 hours ago
If only CS2 ran better on linux 😔
Xanza@lemm.ee 9 hours ago
CS2
It runs as well as native on Windows: x0.at/I1ZV.png
pyr0ball@sh.itjust.works 1 hour ago
“But most significantly, Microsoft has made Recall a feature you must opt in to using rather than opt out of using, and it’s possible to remove it completely.”
Important bit
hightrix@lemmy.world 41 minutes ago
Good! In my opinion this entirely changes the feature to acceptable.