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Musk already got what he wanted. He bought Trump, and Trump gave Palantir every ounce of government data to analyze, which was likely a sticking point for Palantir to cement them as the only viable product for the US governments future military applications.
Good.
This belongs in uplifting news
0% would be uplifting. This is still way too many people supporting a piece of shit.
Too true.
The Bay Area is probably the only thing keeping that company alive. Every stoplight you pull up to there has at least a couple Teslas
I know a lot of people who bought teslas before musk became a full blown oligarch and feel uncomfortable about it
Supports a literal Oligarch Nazi
Feels uncomfortable about it
Doesnt do anything about it
Sounds about right for America in 2025.
They just weren’t paying attention then because Musk has always been exactly that.
When they’re up for renewal, they won’t be replaced with Teslas.
Well, less than 50% will, maybe. Still a lot of people buying shitty cars apparently.
…and even those are likely pre-ElonSeigHeil purchases.
I see a cyber truck almost every day. It makes no sense. They aren’t even like the same one.
In Europe Tesla isn’t even #1 on EV anymore, they have been surpassed by VAG aka Volkswagen Group.
Depending on how you compare, they are probably a little bit more expensive, but also higher quality.
but also higher quality
That’s a low bar.
The shits my kid dumped on his diaper when he was a baby cleared out rooms. They were also of higher quality.
hur, hur, you said VAG
Glad I’m not the only full grown child reading the thread
Not that kind, we know because Elon hasn’t propositioned it
Just imagine if there wasn’t a crazy tariff on Chinese cars the figure would be even lower. BYD are making some great cars
BYDs are everywhere now in Australia. Not sure what alternative brands are available in the US, is it just Rivian?
And other Chinese brands!. The MG4 is super popular in Australia too. Can get it for about $38k AUD ($25k USD).
Even if Tesla wasn’t tarnished by association with Musk, they have absolutely nothing at the budget end of the market. ie for buyers that traditionally bought corollas, little Mazdas and Hyundai’s.
And BYD has the whole range, if I want a luxury sedan the BYD Seal goes toe to toe with the model 3.
I think China is going to eat everyone’s lunch here in the same way Japan did in the 70s/80s, and Korea went in even cheaper in the 90s and 00s (how many Hyundai Excels/Accents were there in Australia in late 90s early 00s).
On the more affordable end around here I see a lot of electric cars from Ford, Chevrolet, Kia, and Hyundai around here, and to a lesser extent Volkswagen. On the high end it’s mostly Mercedes-Benz and BMW, sometimes Porsche. Once in a while I’ll see Rivian but they don’t have a dealership in our state. Even more rarely I’ll see Polestar, which does have a dealership in a city at the other end of the state, and at least one person here has a Lucid Air.
Are you asking if Rivian is the only company besides Tesla selling electric cars in the US?
No, nearly all major manufacturers sell EVs. Something like 25 brands.
I believe there was a 100% tariff in place pre-Trump meltdown on Chinese EVs in the U.S, making them less viable in that market. The EU also tariffs them heavily, which is quite a pity.
Rivian & the 2 or 3 models the big manufacturers have. I see way more hybrids than full electrics in my area.
rivian isnt even that widespread , and they are still testing some models.
Ford has at least one now, I think VW does as well
Keep it up Cali! FUCK EM!
Another potential Tesla alternative to add to the list: www.telotrucks.com
As an European i don’t understand at all those open trucks. The back side is completely wasted space, is unusable, stuff will get stolen when you park (or even at the traffic light), or will get soaked in rain. It also lowers aerodynamic efficiency. That one time in my life when i would need to move a fridge or a mattress i could just rent it for 3 hours
I mean, you can always hook a trailer to a normal car or something like a Subaru Outback if you’re going off-road. That’s what people do here. Monday to Friday they commute in their normal, affordable, not extremely huge car and on Saturday the trailer comes out.
Enough with the trucks and SUVs. I’m not buying an EV until I can get a 2 door sports convertible with rack and pinion steering and double wishbone suspension. I don’t want to drive a tank of a vehicle with vague, floaty handling. I want a small, light, and nimble EV that’s fast as fuck and corners like a dream. For under $30K USD.
It is hard to get a light EV when the batteries themselves are around 1/10 the energy density of gasoline and people want them to have a longer range than a gas car to make up for charging so you end up with a battery that’s 500-1000lbs. To put that into perspective a Miata weighs around 2000lbs
Look at Telo, their “truck” is the size of a Mini Cooper but with a full 8 ft bed. And it seats 5. That’s incredibly compelling.
…my mazda 2 outhandles my MX-5s and is the only car i’ve driven which keeps pace with my elise; we’ve been waiting for an electric subcompact hatchback for about ten years now but the stateside market keeps doing everything it can not to offer me one…
I’m rocking a kei truck for landscaping and home reno projects, and it still uses more gas than I’m happy with. I’d love for someone to make an electric truck that isn’t a massive behemoth intended to prove something about my masculinity. Just give me a clean energy box bed.
So much this. Closest we get seems to be a Prius. :(
Im personally looking forward to Edison EV conversions.
The ability to take a vehicle I already have and turn it into an EV or hybrid would be amazing.
I know they’re a while from full production, but I see that as a win. So many of these EVs are having quality issues because they’re being shit out onto the market as fast as humanly possible. I’d rather a company actually take the time to do R&D, test things thoroughly, and then release a product.
The biggest issue with an EV conversion is the weight of the batteries. For a lot of passenger cars, adding 500kg of batteries maxes out or even exceeds the vehicle’s gross weight.
Oh neat, this is basically an electric Kei truck. The front looks a little weird with the wheels so far forward. Reminds me of a golf cart. I can’t really complain though, I’d love a small practical truck.
Huh, I didn’t think it was possible to out-ugly the cybertruck
It’s no worse than some of the stuff Nissan has come out with over the years. Remember the cube?
The problem with the Tesla truck is that it is ugly without purpose, all the other oddly designed vehicles look the way they do because they have a particular unique feature (been small, having sliding minivan doors on a vehicle otherwise two small for them, having gull wing doors, removing a-pillars from the design, etc), but the cyber truck just looks like that to be contrarian.
It may be ugly, but it’s tiny and very functional. I’m very tempted to make that my commuter and occasional hauling stuff vehicle.
These guys are FAKE NEWS and Need to be DEPORTED for Hurting ELON MUSKS FEELINGS!
I have duly upvoted your obvious sarcasm.
Same
after what he has done to californias fast rail system, with the hyperloop scam, he deserves much more.
The new International Scout truck looks pretty cool thou
Burn a Tesla, make the world a better place.
Burning makes the world a more dangerous and polluted place.
There are much more eco friendly ways to vandalise and immobilise.
What is an alternative to burning for long-term immobilization?
Asking for a friend.
Womp womp.
🖕Tesla
At some point prices will get so low that it’ll make sense to buy a Tesla and rework the body so no one knows it’s a Tesla.
They’re already selling at virtually no markup. They’re also old, very mature production lines. There’s not much more price drop to be had, unless Tesla starts selling them at a loss.
Even at these lower prices, Tesla makes more money on their EVs than their competitors. That’s part of why the others haven’t been able to expand and compete as quickly. Expanding an expensive vehicle becomes a bigger liability. GM is only planning to have their first EV profitable year this year, and I’ll believe it when I see it.
The Cybertruck is probably another story though, I don’t know if that’s profitable at the lower than expected sales rate.
Doing that will probably make it near impossible to get serviced, though.
If you can buy a Tesla cheap enough the usable parts, such as batteries and motors, can be moved to a different frame or vehicle. Even an ICE vehicle that you’d like to electrify. It’s all just parts.
It’s crazy that one manufacturer being below 50% market share is news.
They had around 100% market share just a few years back.
Losing half the market in 3-4 years is a huge change for any company, even if some of it was inevitable as rivals caught up and suprassed their offerings.
ear 100% EV market share just a few years back.
in cali, ev is big here.
Good, fuck those poorly made vehicles.
Slumpers like to slump…slump…slump.
Elon: “and I took that personally…”
nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 hours ago
I refuse to believe that it was over 50%
realitista@lemm.ee 4 hours ago
This is only electric car market share.