that’s gunna be a lot of sad kids on Christmas when the great depression 2 has settled in
Nintendo confirms $90 price for full Breath of the Wild experience on Switch 2
Submitted 4 weeks ago by inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support
Interestingly you can get all that for free now. Yarr
lordnikon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Kinda expected when you pull an CEO from EA
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Yeah, you can really see the AAA cooperate enshitification taking hold.
emb@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Wow, I had actually never heard that Doug Bowser was formerly at EA. Ooof
I get that it’s more fun to point out his name, I’m just surprised I hadn’t seen the comment made before.
FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
Even EA isn’t this greedy.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
If they owned Mario and Zelda, you can bet your britches they would be.
lordnikon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Hell EA is doing good now in some ways like open sourcing the command and conquer games. Maybe they got rid of their Shit executives to Ubisoft and Nintendo.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Title is a bit misleading
There are a few scenarios here.
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You own the game on switch and already have the dlc so pay nothing unless you want to pay $10 or have the switch online subscription for the switch 2 edition if you want the enhancements. For a total of $0-10 depending on your choice
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You own the game but dont have the dlc so pay $20 for that and then $10 for the switch 2 version unless you have the subscription for a total of $20-30 depending on your choice.
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You dont own the game so you buy the switch 2 version for $70 and the dlc for $20 for a total of $90.
This is not the same as the $90 game lie thats being told, but it is painted that way. To get clicks.
Paying $70 for a game and then paying more for an expansion is nothing even close to new. For example, Destiny 2 is free but if you want the DLC its gonna cost you between $150 and $270 depending on when you buy it as there are sometimes deals on.
ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 4 weeks ago
Breath of the Wild is 8 years old at this point. Asking $70 for that is pretty egregious in my opinion. Maybe for TotK that’d be more acceptable but for BotW I think it’s a very steep price. Especially given that it’s common that rereleases usually include dlcs by default.
I’d expected $60 for the full package, not $90, given that the amount of development work was likely pretty low (the game was finished years ago after all). So 50% higher than expected.
The SM64+Sunshine+Galaxy bundle game was $30, for comparison. That’s three full games that they needed to put in effort for to run on the Switch.
Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Absolutely fair. An 8nyewr old game should not cost $90 all in.
I dont dispute that. I just think the article is misleading as there is a lot of talk about $90 switch 2 games, which turned out not to be true, and it creates anger that is misplaced. Even if the reality isn’t far from that lie.
I do, however, think it’s an interesting thought experiment to come at it from another angle.
Imagine the article was “8 year old AAA game and DLC at a huge discount” and the article said things like:
- breath of the wild was ahead of its time on release
- the graphics still look great thanks to the cell shadong and art style
- unique gameplay elements and a modern feeling combat system
- vast open world with expansive storyline
- on par with modern games
- currently only $50 on this deal, a bargain considering everything you get for that price
From this point of view i think you would agree that anyone would argue its worth more than $50 and that its a great deal despite being 8 years old.
Nintendo games should definitely come down in price over time, but the point is its just so easy to spin something however you want if you use the right words.
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drmoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Steamdeck already has this experience for free 🙈
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Steam is not free. Steam is 30% cut to businesses.
Sony, Nintendo and Microsoft offload their costs via yearly subscription costs as well as developers paying a protection fee to launch on their platform. Steam just has the highest protection money scheme. You wouldn’t want anything to happen to the games you’re publishing through them, would you?
vonbaronhans@midwest.social 4 weeks ago
Existing owners can upgrade to the Switch 2 version for $10, gaining better framerates, higher resolutions, and HDR support.
I didn’t realize they had this option. As far as legal routes go, that’s not terrible (assuming there’s no weird downside, like no longer being able to play the original on the switch 1). Free would be better, of course, but $10 certainly beats paying $90 just to play the improved version on switch 2.
samus12345@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
It’s basically the PS4 to PS5 $10 upgrade thing. The difference is that Nintendo isn’t dropping the price of their 8 year old game, unlike what the rest of the industry does. So it’s $60 BotW + $20 DLC + $10 Switch 2 upgrade = $90. Absolutely ridiculous.
bungle_in_the_jungle@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Honestly… Piss off with that Nintendo.
CallateCoyote@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
One of the issues I have with the new open-world style Zelda games is that they don’t have replay value. After finishing each once (which takes a lot of time), I can’t actually imagine wanting to go back and play them again. So yeah, Nintendo can charge what they want and it isn’t very appealing regardless. Increased resolution isn’t going to change the experience.
Cort@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Increased resolution probably wouldn’t make a difference, but keeping the framerate at a steady 30 (or even better 60) would make a noticeable difference. At least it did when I played it on PC
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
I replay OoT and MM at least once a year. I can see myself replaying these new Zelda games at some point and enjoying them, but I won’t likely pay $90 for the privilege.
smeg@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
Interestingly I’d say the complete opposite: BotW was my fave and I feel I could replay it in quite a different style (e.g. trying to beat it without any dungeons, trying to 100% it), whereas the others are all very linear and my only option is to play it again in the same way.
(Obviously I don’t need to pay any additional money to do either though!)
catloaf@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
The others are certainly more linear, but you could also do things like the three heart challenge. Or emulate and play a randomized game.
twinnie@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
I’m not as against this as everyone else. If you want a AAA game without microtransactions, in-game advertising, and all the other byllshit you get nowadays you’re gonna have to expect the company will want to make that money up in other places. Games have been like £50/$60 since I was a kid and we’ve been lucky that the prices haven’t risen with inflation.
duchess@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
There are a lot of AAA titles without all that bullshit and none of them costs that kind of money, on any platform.
catloaf@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Yeah but just for a rerelease with some new paint?
ThePantser@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Games were $60 in SNES days, I know I paid around that for Secret of Mana and Chrono Trigger
falidorn@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
As someone that argued this the other day, volume and production costs are waaaaaay different than then. This is a false equivalence.
rikudou@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
Everyone also always forgets that they save money on distribution massively. And that the amount of games sold has increased significantly.
It’s not as simple as dollars had more value, games should cost more.
samus12345@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
And subscriptions, MTX…game companies are making bank and would still make more than enough if games were $50.
MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
$90 8 year old game, lmao you are a clown
WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
IDK how to feel about rising video game prices. On the one hand, prices were stagnant for decades. On the other hand, companies can sell far more copies of games than they could back in the 1980s and 1990s. The cost of games is all in the development. The more you sell, the cheaper the price can be. They cost next to nothing to package and distribute (or are distributed digitally.)
On one hand, games are a lot more complex and expansive than they were back in the day. On the other, game devs now have tools the creators of old couldn’t even dream of. No one is hand coding the next Mario game is assembly.
There’s a lot of variables here. And it’s really just hard to make a fair judgment about it.
thermal_shock@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
If they’re turning billions of dollars in profit each year, there’s no reason to raise the price. Fuck them
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de 4 weeks ago
In many ways I think rising prices could be great, but in reality, they won’t be. With the technology available today, we could have even cooler games than we do, and more games, and more great games. We could have more diverse and experimental games. It would be lovely if solo indie developers were able to make a living from making great games, rather than basically needing to chase a dream akin to getting drafted into the NBA. Game developers are seriously underpaid, it would be great if they got paid as much as other software developers, especially since their work is equally complex and usually more stressful.
In reality, rising game prices will not help with any of those things, and will just make the C-suite richer. The one silver lining is that this may allow small indies to start charging a more livable realistic price for their games.
nuko147@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Yeah but BOTW has already made them rich. Development is finished and even the next game is 2 years old. I call it pure greed.
REDACTED@infosec.pub 4 weeks ago
They cost next to nothing to package and distribute (or are distributed digitally.)
Steam takes 30% cut
kandoh@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
They’d make a lot more money if thr priced it at the 20 - 40 range
shinratdr@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
They really wouldn’t. They would have to triple or quadruple sales to take that sort of a hit. As it stands it’s one of the best selling games of all time already, basically everyone interested in it already owns it.
Financially, they made the right decision. As annoying as it is from the consumer side.
cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 4 weeks ago
If I were to buy a switch 2, I might consider a rebuy at 20-40, but I’ve already beaten it and I ain’t pain 90$ lmao
mlg@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
That assumes people actually buy it though. Everyone already has this game, so I would expect most of the sales to come from the upgrade pack and not the $90 switch 2 edition. Nintendo usually makes bank by selling old games at full price with a generational console gap.
Tons of the full price successful “remasters” on Switch were Wii games which people no longer used, and Wii U games which no one originally bought.
On the other hand, the last time I didn’t see Nintendo make bank on literally zero effort was never, so I’m not that hopeful that people won’t just shill out for this scam too.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
i’m interested in it. i don’t own it.
Nath@aussie.zone 4 weeks ago
I bought it second hand. Nintendo got $0 from the sale. In fact, two thirds of our physical games have been purchased second hand.
Quazatron@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
The first and only console I bought was the original Wii. Games were expensive so I did not have many. I managed to install a few emulators and use it for older console emulation.
After some years they started pulling the plug on the online services. That’s when I decided I would never buy another console again. I will not feed any more walled gardens. I have more games than I can play on my PC, a lot of them are DRM free.
Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Too cheap. Make it 200. I want to see how those IT-terrorism sponsors would whine and cry but still pay more and more to their Nintendo fetish.
TachyonTele@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Who are the IT terrorism supporters?
Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
Those who give money to the IT-terrorist organization Nintendo.
Eggyhead@lemmings.world 4 weeks ago
Video games, and Zelda especially, should only be for rich, privileged folk. Poor people need to work 3 jobs if they want to play games in all that free time they must have.
Bentheredonethat@discuss.online 4 weeks ago
And, not that anyone cares, I vow never to buy another game from them- at least at that price.
Retaliatory non consumption.
TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
After the Wii, I sword that I was never going to buy another console just to play Zelda. I eventually got a Switch to play Breath of the Wild and basically nothing else (I owned a total of 4 Switch games). When they sued the shit out of the Yuzu people, I decided it was time to finally live up to the promise I had made. I gave the Switch, which I hadn’t touched in years, to a friend to use as a gift for his kids and committed to never giving Nintendo another penny.
I’ll reevaluate that stance if they ever make significant changes to their practices.
demizerone@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Nintendo doesn’t give AF about poor people.
Critical_Thinker@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
They aren’t your friends, they don’t care about you - they care about the money in your pocket.
They know they are too big to fail, so they are gonna raise prices 50% no problem.
v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
I’d wager most video game companies don’t
morphballganon@mtgzone.com 4 weeks ago
I have the Wii U version, and I don’t plan to replay it… on any console.
TwinTitans@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
So sounds like a public library check out.
buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
They have literally been doing this with every older game they’ve ever produced. New system? New larger price to play on the new system.
Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 4 weeks ago
Everybody RRRREEEEEEEEEE’s about Nintendo, but Kingdom come deliverance II released at $90 for the base game and I fucking LOVE Kingdom come deliverance, I wasn’t paying that shit. 2 months later, I got the gold edition or whatever for $80. (PS5) I am very happy with the purchase. Looking forward for the DLC lol.
Puzzlehead@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
I already have the DLC and with Nintendo membership, you get the rest for free if you already have the game, DLC not included.
Goretantath@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
🤮🤮🤮🤮
hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 weeks ago
$90 to replay a 8 year old wiiu game. Why would anyone?
calabast@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
As relevant now as it was over a decade ago.
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technomad@slrpnk.net 4 weeks ago
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SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 4 weeks ago
Nintendo fanboys are notorious suckers
kandoh@reddthat.com 4 weeks ago
There are lots of people with disposable income who don’t have the technical capability to pirate.
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 weeks ago
I played it six years ago, but with a better experience than switch 2… thank you, cemu
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 4 weeks ago
I’ve been wanting to play botw so I tried it on cemu awhile back but couldn’t get it to work. I’ll have to try it again and see if I can figure out what I was doing wrong.
ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 4 weeks ago
Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a Switch, once manufacturing ceases.
Nintendo famously never discounts. But this is actually Nintendo’s way of not only never discounting, but increasing the price over time.
smeg@feddit.uk 4 weeks ago
A new one, but pretty soon the market will be flooded with second hand switches
samus12345@lemm.ee 4 weeks ago
There are Switch games being released in 2026. I expect new Switches will continue to be produced at least until then.
RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I wouldn’t pay $90 for it, but Hyrule Warriors Definitive Edition was definitely fun enough to keep playing.