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⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
Sorry, that was me. I’m working from the Molly inbox because mine is full of user reports and site-wide stuff. Keeping the user verifications in the Molly account just means we keep them separate from anything else. I’ll have another look tonight (I can’t access Reddit from work) and see if I missed something.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Christmas Present Inspiration Thread⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
There was lots of Numbat talk in last year’s thread. If you need a numbat:
shop.perthzoo.wa.gov.au/products/numbat-soft-toy
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Christmas Present Inspiration Thread⁩ ⁨⁨5⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
I like that little Greenhouse thing. I am not sure who I’d get it for - possibly my sister, but I can’t see her actually sitting down and assembling it. My wife probably would, but I have her more than sorted. Maybe for her next birthday. 🙂
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Christmas Present Inspiration Thread⁩ ⁨⁨8⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago⁩:
To start things off this year, I’ll share how this awesome community helped me last year.

After last year’s thread, I bought:
1. A Bug-a-salt for my brother-in-law, he loved it! (Thanks @CEOofmyhouse56@aussie.zone )
2. Some nice towels for my sister (Thanks @Taleya@aussie.zone )
I got a Bluetooth transmitter (I had requested one) and it is awesome.
Christmas Present Inspiration Thread
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⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Breaking: NSW Police responding to reports of shooter at Bondi Beach⁩ ⁨⁨4⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago⁩:
What does a bunch of Aussies enjoying a holiday at the beach have to do with Israel?
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:
I have a real 14-year-old in my house. I should see what accounts he can manage to create for himself.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:
Not instantly. I’ll go through all the DMs soon (I was going to go through them on the weekend but, December) and send replies. Yes, replies will come from Molly.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:
Ooh - I missed this update last week:
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This genuinely boggles my mind. The government can make sentences like this, but they can’t make them reality. Imagine if it said that only people with red hair were allowed to access the site. What technology exists to handle that? Because it is effectively what we are facing. We can only try our best - but we can’t assure the government 100% that no user has tricked us onto the platform. And I’d still say that if I had the resources of Google to ensure compliance.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:
We aren’t going to make public what people have given us in confidence. That’s simply not happening.

We might share some of the text-based responses as reference examples to inspire others, but it’s an emphatic n"o" on anything that has an above 0% chance of doxxing our people. Which will likely be all the photos.

We love you guys too much to remotely entertain that risk.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨Honest Government Ad | Social Media Ban⁩ ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago⁩:
I think this about sums everything up. I just pinned it to the top of Local with the non-satire post. 😀
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
If it was Tom’s Diner, that song has a special place in digital music history. It was the test song for what became the MP3 standard.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Oh wow! That this came from a non-Queensland kid is extra surprising. Yes, this was the breakfast club. It gave us, Agro by the way. Queensland kids knew Agro years before the rest of Australia.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
We aren’t copping any abuse. Everyone understands that this isn’t coming from us and that there is no point hassling us over it.

Shutting the instance down is not on the cards. It means too much to too many people.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Nah, I don’t think that’s it. Your comment here constituted more effort than some responses we’ve received. We don’t need much.

We’re lucky in Australia in that there’s a treasure trove of pop culture from the 20th century in our minds that isn’t really on Google. Just talk about Nudge’s antics or something. No kid will know who Nudge is, but he was a household name in the 80’s. Or maybe Bobby’s death and how that affected you? Google “Bobby’s death” and you’ll get the wrong Bobby.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
I’ll have you know that I’ve had three birthdays since I created my account!
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
While we have tried to make the verification system as light-touch and unobtrusive as we can, we need to accept that this policy will cost us users. Just as we have no influence on government policy, we have no control on how people will respond to our willingness to obey the law.

I even understand it. If Canada introduced some sort of law that required me to do something I couldn’t justify, I’d likely let my lemmy.ca test account lapse. People are going to evaluate their own position from evaluating the variables in front of them. And some of them are going to come down on their Aussie.Zone account not being worth that much to them. Which is totally fine.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Crocodile Dundee came out in 1986. Hoges was huge on TV in the 70’s though - the Paul Hogan show ran for years. Fun fact: almost all of the Paul Hogan Show has been lost. It aired before VCRs were a thing and the station lost or over-wrote the original tapes.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Most of us carried around about 10 floppies in a case. I had a fancy case that held 15 floppies and expanded out like a little set of stairs.

Most files we carried around were well under 100kb. We didn’t carry photos around, digital cameras weren’t a thing and we didn’t scan photos unless they were going into a specific file or something.

If I did have to carry a file that was larger than 1.44mb, I used arj to compress it and split the archive into 1440kb volumes. Arj had better compression than zip.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Huh. I was going to make some reference to 20-year-olds playing high school kids. But Molly genuinely was sixteen.
Colour me surprised.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Yes, I’m sad to say.
Technically is applies to the whole Internet. If an Australian can make an account on your site in Iceland, you’re supposed to comply with this law. That said, the government isn’t making much of a thing about this, because they know full well that it’ll have an adverse affect on the population (those sites will simply block Australia rather than comply). There are a few sites (eg Facebook, YouTube, Instagram) they are getting to comply, because there are Millions of Australians on these sites and it’s worth those companies’ while to retain these users and comply.

Then the government has a precedent: “See? That site over there complied, if you ever want to be as big as them, you need to also!”
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨National study finds where you live influences your body weight | News at Curtin⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Hotties live north. I don’t need no silly map to tell me what I already know.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Maybe a few of them and after a bit. I can’t think of any examples so far of two people doing the same thing, but I also don’t want to take dozens of means off the table for future respondents. One user already shared his genius method, and I suppose that method is still available for others to use. 😆
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Lodion and I both loved this one.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
On that front, we’re a little fortunate. One of the whitepapers I saw on the legislation essentially spruiked a whole industry poised to offer sites ‘age verification services’. By getting in ahead of all that and verifying our users using methods our own users themselves define, we’re avoiding that noise.

And the users have been wonderful. I’ve always loved the support of this crowd and they haven’t let us down on this matter, either. By simply leaving it with you all to go ahead and define your own verification means, you’ve come up with loads of unique stuff that I would never have thought of. And by keeping it all funnelled to DMs the way we have, no AI is going to learn anything from you.

If we are singled out to demonstrate that we took reasonable steps, I’d love to present the evidence that we have complied with the legislation. They can’t complain that our methods fail to meet some standard, as they haven’t provided a standard. I honestly believe I could go all the way to court with the messages that you’ve sent in as “any reasonable person would believe this was sent by someone over sixteen”. If that turns into some sort of thing that goes ‘ok, you need to do x to verify ages in future’, we’ve beaten all such changes by being grandfathered in on our own system.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Hahahahaha yes!l but I wasn’t going to say.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Nope. We only need to ensure any accounts created on our platform comply.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
No
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
No. You won’t be included in the compilation of compliant users when we go through the messages.
⁨Comment⁩ on ⁨As of December 10th, You need to be sixteen to use Aussie.Zone⁩ ⁨⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago⁩:
Nothing immediately. Unless you claim to be a child and then we’re legally obligated to ban you. But if you don’t send a message, we will still need verification at a later time.

Please do it. We know it’s dumb. None of this is our idea. It’s already work reading the responses. It’ll be more work to actually chase users later. So you’ll help our overall workload if you take your name off the list of users who need to be verified later.