Submitted 1 year ago by The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world to games@lemmy.world
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I have 11, so not directly affected. But with “no more security updates” being the only real reason one needs to change, the obvious question here is if there is 3rd party software that can protect a Windows 10 system?
I remember when anti-virus software was in common use.
Windows 10 LTSC gets updates for a while longer. I forget the exact number, but I wanna say it goes into the 2030s?
It should be easy to get updates with a little hacky help, they’ll be available on the long term support schedule.
I’m going to move over to Mint on my laptop, it’s older but still working great after I swapped an SSD drive in. Biggest issue is backing up the laptop before installing Linux. I have another computer I plan on duel boot with Windows 10 so I have access if I need windows for certain programs. I have no control over my work computer so Windows 11 there.
And unless one of my brothers steps up and buys our Dad a Windows 11 computer (I bought the Windows 10 computer, which is why it was so cheap it can’t take 11. 😆 ) since I’m his tech support if my brothers don’t step up he is going to Linux. No matter what I’m going to have to listen to him complain about how it is different so it will be a good time to move to Linux. Probably a version that tries to mimic Windows.
What does Bill Gates have to do with this, he hasn’t been directly involved in Microsoft in 17 years.
Dual booting with EndeavourOS now. Once i know i can repeat my workflow on it, i’ll switch over for good.
Unpopular opinion but I’m just using 11. I deal with enough problems with Linux at work and as hard as it is to believe, Windows just work and fits my workflow too well. Linux works great on my Steam Deck but the occasional weird quirks it has with certain games/launchers means I can’t use it as my main gaming platform, it’s only fine on the Deck because it has advantages for the form factor.
All games work in 11. You will get the best picture quality for graphics on 11. More DX9 games work in 11 than worked in 10. Path tracing is best on 11. I have some games that are DVD installs, no game store launcher.
There are different Linux programs that address most Windows issues but not all. With Windows, you can install Win 11, install GPU driver, and start playing games. I do avoid using Steam due to their extortion, so eventually I find games that can’t run on Linux.
Windows 11 has better image quality? I’m sorry what?
Linux has some problems that I just can never find answers for.
#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.
#2. Ubiconnect won’t work with Ann 1800 even though it’s good on proton.db and others are reporting it works great, I was never ever able to get it working or find reliable steps to get it working.
It’s a needle in a haystack trying to find fixes for things like this. Linux offers a lot, but still doesn’t offer the most important thing ease of fixing problems quickly so you can just do what you want to do.
Run a game and work at the native resolution.
#1. Can’t do 4k 340hz on my display port 1.4 cable. Even though I can on windows and Mac. In Linux the option is there with the nvidia driver, but the screen goes black anytime I try to use it. No solution.
I had a similar issue on my 1080ti, I fixed it by setting Adaptive Sync to Never in my display settings.
To point 1.: WTF?
Yea thats how my spouses laptop ended up with fedora and our main/gaming PC ended up with Nobara. For some reason certain distros and certain configurations do not go well with each other.
I switched to Linux mate and been using heroic games launcher for the windows games I want to play
I switched to linux full time almost a year ago.
I have been thus far entirely unsuccessful in convincing anyone else to make the jump. Normal people do not give a fuck, will not lift a finger to improve their digital lives. I’ve been telling friends and family about adblockers for YEARS, and not a single one ever bothered to do it of their own volition. If I don’t do it for them, then they just sit through ads like complacent sheep. None of them are going to change operating systems if they can’t even install a browser extension.
I’m been a Linux power user for more than half of my life, 8 last years spent on NixOS. I self-host my everything. I’ve bootstrapped a toolchain and a Linux distro from scratch^Wtcc for giggles twice, first without a package manager, then without one. For the last five years, I earn a living by working on a Linux distro. I still have my only decent GPU in a Windows 10 box half a continent away I stream games from. Would you be able to convince me to switch?
Just face it, Windows is the gaming console firmware.
I’m talking about normies, not gamers, and not power users like yourself.
Normies touch their pc for less than one hour a day, because everything they could want is in their phone. Many normies don’t even have internet connections in their home because they exclusively engage with the internet through their phone. I’ve talked to normies who don’t have pcs at all because their ipads do everything they could possibly want.
It’s a fact that there are certain games that simply do not run on linux, because of drm or developer stupidity or any number of reasons. As a separate argument, I’d argue that those games are not worth playing. I used to be a hardcore gamer, I’ve gotten old since then and become a casual. I don’t have time nor energy to dedicate to figuring out why game x won’t run on pc y with configuration z. If the big green play button doesn’t work, I refund the damn thing, and in my almost 2 years of linux usage I have yet to need to do that. Another separate argument is my disdain for AAA games, the lack of ethics in their creation, and the abysmal conditions in which they always launch in these days.
So as to your actual question, can I convince you to switch your gaming pc to linux? No, and I’m not even going to try. If you insist on playing the latest AAA slop that the megacorps shovel at you, then you must have windows and you must continue to allow microsoft to continue to rape your digital existence in order to have crappy entertainment that I wouldn’t dignify with the time of day.
I really just don’t understand this. Folks will not lift a finger or a brain cell to figure out tech.
These are the people that companies like Apple pander to, with the whole “it just works” schtick.
I was thinking about this earlier today for myself. Not specifically about computers, but the same principle. If I have something that bugs me and wastes 10 seconds of my time every single day but I could permanently fix the problem in an hour - logically it’s worth fixing. Even if it eventually saves time, I have to invest an hour of time and brainpower right now. If it’s something I don’t really care about, it’s just not worth it. I don’t need that hassle, I’ll just have a small annoyance every day instead of a big annoyance today. I’ve got better things to do. Like browsing Lemmy apparently
I’m a lifelong Windows user and tried Linux many many times but could never wrap my head around it. Recently I installed Nobara and it’s exactly the noob-friendly experience I need. All of my games run flawlessly, even the VR game I play. And everything is just FASTER. I never realized how bloated Windows was until now. I can’t imagine going back to Windows at this point.
What headset? I have my Index mostly working on Nobara, but can’t figure out how to get it to show as an audio device.
Quest 3. I only play Resonite which has native Linux compatibility so it might be easier for that reason.
Switched to Linux (mint) recently.
All my games run (almost) perfect and (almost) everything has been working perfectly. Overall it is much nicer than Windows and isn’t that hard getting used to.
Would much recommend!
Been Linux exclusively for 20 years. Win 11 sure isn’t going to change that
Imagine that, Windows 11 can remember everything you did in the past 3 months, it’s making sure that you didn’t forget about Office 365, Xbox Live subscriptions, and about Edge, the browser embedded deeply in the OS…
Sometimes, for your convenience, it will put Edge as the default, but you totally can change it back to what it was!
Are you sure you don’t want to switch? You’re missing a lot there…
I despise Microsoft just as much as you do, but I’ve never encountered the things you just wrote. Ist that a home edition problem?
I’ll have to use some sort of windows for VR, I need to investigate the various debloat options
I just deleted windows and installed Bazzite Linux. Everything just works
Linux Baby, Linux 🐧😘
I tried out going 100% Linux a year ago. Unfortunately I was playing one of the very few games that has Linux issues. 100% CPU all the time was bugging me. It’s not the fault of Linux. Anyway, that’s how it played out. I may be tempted to try again soon.
I jumped ship to Linux Mint almost a year ago. No Microsoft products live here anymore. No regrets.
What happens if still use win 10?
All you guys said is true. You could get hacked blah blah blah. But to a gamer, a machine exclusively for gaming doesn’t take any of that as a concern. Want to hack my machine? Go ahead! As long as you don’t delete my games, be my guest. I don’t save credit card information on it anyway.
But none of that happens in my case. I don’t game on or run Windows. I’m just here to provide a point of view.
Your local network is compromised, not just 1 windows device. It could potentially leak enough personal information for more targeted attacks.
The chances are slim but AI may enable targeted hacking at scale. I simply wouldn’t risk downloading shit on a device with known security vulnerabilities, without any scope of fixes.
You can’t. Every single hack/exploit that goes unpatched will be a gaping door for hackers
You’ll be more vulnerable to malware because it won’t be patched against newly discovered exploits.
You are compromising yourself, though I think you’ll still get security patches for a bit longer
I moved from Win 10 to OpenSUSE Tumbleweed 2 months ago. Going very well so far, even for music production and gaming. I also got a friend of mine to dual-boot Tumbleweed/Win11, coming from Win11.
I’ll keep using linux on my main pcs and I’ll still keep using windows 10 on my secondary laptop
Full Linux, I’m not installing that anti-privacy, ad-ridden Windows 11 OS. It’s dangerous to use an unsupported system, so I’m going to be deleting my Windows partition. I know I’ll run into some issues on Linux, but I’m forcing myself to learn more and work through them!
i jumped 🫡
Does it really matter? I have xemu (xbox emulator), retroarch for anything else, and PSX2 to be sure on Lubuntu, combine together how many games all those have and you just don’t need steam
I’ll upgrade to 11 Enterprise via massgrave.
Sadly with Adobe and some of my online games not supporting Linux, I have to stick with Windows :/ I’ll just try to rip out all the telemetry, etc. via O&O and group policies.
What is O&O? I’m not to keen on jumping to Linux either, but I REALLY don’t like the idea of having recall active and having Microsuck know literally everything I do…
O&O Shutup10++ (theoretically works on 11 too)
Not sure what it can do on Home/Pro editions, I’ve only ever tried it on Enterprise.
Ya I can’t live without Adobe suite so same boat
Damn, Adobe doesn’t support Linux at all? Guess I’m staying on Windows too :/
No, all the current versions are reported various levels of broken :/ Generally they can’t install, so you have to copy an installation from Windows, then there are some that don’t load at all, some only load to splash screen, some do work after you patch their broken UI and manually copy some Windows DLL-s. So idk, you might get lucky with the specific program/version/feature combo you need, but it just sounds like a pain to me.
The only way to use Adobe products on Linux are the web apps (which are limited) or in a windows virtual machine (slow) or by dual booting into windows (annoying).
You can run really old versions of Photoshop via Wine. But if your needs are that simple, you can probably just use Photopea.
For my use case of Lightroom for accessing and editing final photos across my computer and phone, and occasional photoshop use (mostly for printing) I am able to get by with the web apps, and windows virtual machine.
I would love to drop adobe. But the Lightroom Mobile cloud storage sync feature is too invaluable to me right now and there is no other option that comes close to that feature.
I have no plans to either update to win11 or change back to chanting magic spells at my computer to get it to work (Ubuntu, many years ago).
My computer works and does everything I want it to. Basic internet security and reasonable precautions are sufficient for a low level user like me to stay safe.
The Linux experience has changed quite a lot over the years. You’re unlikely to have trouble getting your computer to work with it now.
Possibly/Probably but as I said. Right now win 10 runs all my productivity, gaming and streaming software such as OBS and Veadotube.
They run and run well. I have literally no incentive to switch to either a Linux distro or win11. If that changes, then I’ll consider changing my OS, but until then…why would anyone?
I already moved to linux (In my case Linux Mint) two weeks ago ^^
Just upgrade yall are so dramatic for no reason at all. If 11 is that bad just switch to Linux.
People might get a little emotional about it but I bounce between Linux Mint, windows 10, and windows 11 and honestly I totally agree that windows 11 is trash. When my windows 10 computer reaches it’s limit, I might try to figure out how to run games on Linux/proton or whatever that is.
Honestly, I still don’t know. My 3070 worked well on linux the last time I used it so hardware won’t be an issue. I also don’t play many modern games so that’s not a problem either. It’s just my partner is schizo with what games they wanna play. Rn they’re obsessed with minecraft and bedrock doesn’t work on linux. I know for sure I’m not going to 11 though. I’ve used it before and absolutely hated the UI layout.
First off, bedrock is cancer it’s just off-brand Minecraft.
But second, there is an unofficial launcher that works on Linux
It’s tricky because I have things that just don’t translate well to linux, or become considerably more expensive or time consuming to manage / deal with. Linux has a lot to offer and a lot of great. But I’m just going to keep running an out of date OS until I can switch.
What kind of things are holding you back?
I don’t want to get into a big debate on it so if you are just curious and have a couple suggestions I’m down to talk about it. But I’m tired of people telling me that my reasoning isn’t good enough for them. Like, great, thanks, glad you can be happy with it, but we aren’t the same person. So I’d prefer to avoid any conversation where I’m just told to suck it up and deal with something. I am working on finding alternatives but all the ones I’ve come across so far are coming up short in a way that’s non negotiable.
My biggest one is my O365 bundle with office apps, oneNote, and OneDrive.
I am going to be trying out libreoffice and OpenOffice this year to see if I can replace word and excel. Last time I tried they weren’t there for me.
OneNote is my second most vital. I’m looking at Notesnook at the moment but I’m really not enthused by a monthly price or the idea of self-hosting in a docker container. I’ve hated most note apps and OneNote was the only one I’ve clicked with so far. I refuse to touch markdown so that kills a lot of them. I’m taking notes with minor edits, and I refuse to add markdown to the process just to do that. I also will not be ok with a webapp. I don’t like webapps in general.
OneDrive is probably my most vital. I have 1TB for me and 1TB each for 5 family accounts. So 6TB total. And I definitely use the space. On top of that I rely heavily on its integration to the file explorer and the mfa locked personal vault section. I don’t want to deal with a web interface or separate app, outside of an authentication hook for the vault, just to access storage.
Outside of the 365 bundle, it’s mostly running dedicated game servers that have no Linux option. And that’s it I believe. Certainly the most impactful applications. I think most other things I run, I can find acceptable alternatives to or can run in wine or something similar without major issue.
csm10495@sh.itjust.works 1 year ago
If ya want to not be plugged into the internet, or use new external media, ya can probably run it safely forever.
tacosplease@lemmy.world 1 year ago
That’s my plan so far. I just use it for emulators anyway.