well if that is the case, humans can take pollinator job roles when AI will take their excel jobs.
We are so cooked
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Dropper_Post@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Thcdenton@lemmy.world 11 months ago
At least i saved one from my dogs water bowl yesterday 🤷♀️
donkeyass@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
This doesn’t say 80% of the bees have died.
bigcow@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I agree it does mention hundreds of millions but is confusing because…Shook said. “If we lose 80% of our bees every year,…” Not very clear in the article on exactly what percentage of the bee population died.
Kolrami@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pretty huge distinction
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 months ago
It’s called winter.
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
randon31415@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Imagine when we find out bees were the only thing holding it all together.
Aaaaand, it’s over.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 11 months ago
What are we supposed to do? Not rolling coal and eating meat every day? There is just nothing we can do.
can@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
It’s like no body paid attention to bee movie.
F_OFF_Reddit@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Imma go out on a limb here and blame late stage Capitalism and some sort of pesticide or whatever that could solve the problem if it costed 5 cents more but the solution is to save that money and let the bees die.
Imma take my chances on that.
daddakamabb@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Idk about others, but mine died due to temperatures not reaching above 27 for 14 days straight.
phi@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
there’s a crazy scene in the documentary More Than Honey where they compare beekeepers with US Almond Farm pollenators. It’s all about money and it’s sickening.
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 11 months ago
I was gonna quote the documentary too. My favourite scene was when they pollinated by hand and said: who’s better at pollinating? Humans or bees? It’s definitely not humans.
Aeri@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Mortified, but I am not a bee-ologist.
bluebadoo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Specifically, honey bees (Apis mellifera). Native bees that aren’t colony dwellers may not be impacted the same by the mites.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Who cares then, aren’t they only useful for monocropping large farms? Most US bee enthusiasts would instantly cull every honey bee if they could.
ThunderclapSasquatch@startrek.website 11 months ago
Do you like food? We use bees to grow that
bluebadoo@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Personally, I care because I love honey, farm grown food, and they are a poster child for all bees. Without them, there is certainly a lot less care for native bees. While yes they are primarily important for large monocropped farms, that’s your food. Like, so much of your food. Natuu is very bee populations aren’t sufficient or interested in pollinating our food crops, so yes we should really care.
Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Why would the bee enthusiasts cull honey bees?
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Bees have been under assault for a while.
It’s hive mites. The Varroa mite is going to wipe out all bees from the planet. And there’s not a damn thing we can do about it.
LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Is now a bad time to get into mead making?
I wonder if I can return my yeast…
slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 11 months ago
It’s a bad time to enjoy being alive
phi@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
there’s a fungus that protects against the mites and it’s being researched. it’s genius, the bee picks up the fungus in a contraption where it has to crawl through to get to nectar and then brings it back to the hive. i read it in Merlin Sheldrake’s Entangled Life.
Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
Formfiller@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s because of shareholder profit
VampirePenguin@midwest.social 11 months ago
Want to help? Plant pollinator gardens. Easy peasy. Even some pots of local wildflowers on your patio. It all helps.
Nalivai@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It does, but the problem everyone’s talking about isn’t about wild bees, it’s about farming bees. Monospeecies of non-native bees pollinating monoculture of probably corn. They are dying, but only because they’re basically kept in bees analogue of factory farming conditions.
Wild pollinators are fine (well, as fine as any wild species can be in our world, so not really, but at least not worse than others)
froggycar360@slrpnk.net 11 months ago
Honey bees aren’t even native to the US
WickedPissah@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Thanks for researching this! Still not good news for bees 🐝 😪
SolidShake@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is bad news for every animal on land
InfiniteHench@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Those bees know what they did
Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Pesticides, same as always.
BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I was worried so I looked for the source of the information, it seems to be from 'Washington State University" from their website they say it concerns “Commercial honey bee colony”, so it might not be all bees (I don’t know enough to say what the difference is exactly), they say “60 to 70% losses” (not 80), and they also say “Over the past decade, annual losses have typically ranged between 40 and 50%.”, so it is probably worrying but not as much as the CBS article was making it seem.
nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This is a really good article with some charts that make clear global bee populations are not nosediving. earth.org/…/bees-are-not-declining-everywhere-a-g…
So there’s just 6,328 other crises to worry about…
dantheclamman@lemmy.world 11 months ago
This story is about domesticated honeybees, which have been declining for decades due to Colony Collapse Disorder and other stressors. Native North American bees are in their own long-term decline, with 1 in 4 species at risk of extinction. However, domesticated honeybees are tremendously important for the pollination and yield of many crops important to humans, and this population drop, thought to be the largest annual losses seen, should be considered in the context of the longer decline, and the possibility that we could hit a tipping point when pollination, and a crucial pillar of our food system, could fail.
xta@lemmy.world 11 months ago
so worry but not panicking yet. gotcha, nothing will be done then.
BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
I don’t know whether you were satiric or not, but it feels like it, hard to tell on a text medium. No hard feelings either way 😄
If you were “mocking my post in a satiric way”: I didn’t mean to say that nothing should be done or that it was not a reason to worry. I actually believe we should protect our ecosystems, but I think we need accurate data and this kind of posts, even if they convey the “right” message according to me, are misleading and create false information about what is going on. I truly believe we should try to avoid doing this.
chaogomu@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Part of the panicking should be wild bees. They’re dying at accelerated rates.
We also know why, commercial bee keeping is part of it, as is hobbies bee keeping.
And pesticides… and monoculture farming.
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Maybe if Monsanto can cross a Bee with a mosquito and release it into the wild, maybe things will be better? Maybe said mosquito will not mate with a Japanese killer wasp in an unfortunate twist of events?
qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 11 months ago
Old age probably.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
Winter?
bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 months ago
That’s $15 billion worth of crops.
They just can’t break out of that frame, even when the topic is EVERY LIVING THING FUCKING STARVING TO DEATH.
Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 11 months ago
Think of the shareholders!
CascadianGiraffe@lemmy.world 11 months ago
We could always eat the rich.
Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 11 months ago
Everybody says this. Nobody posts recipes.
ace_of_based@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
They’re hoarding all the wealth and and are a rich source of vitamins and minerals
atx_aquarian@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The inherent problem with that is how few there are.
interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 months ago
But also
“there are now an all-time high number of honeybee colonies in the US – 3.8m, around 1m more than five years previously.”
According to the guardian
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
This is why we’re doomed.
mrodri89@lemmy.zip 11 months ago
Care about the environment? Great me too. Thats why im asking ya’ll to sign up for the General strike.
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Share it with your family, friends, social media.
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I am in Canada. But I wholly support this. We must defeat the cheeto madman.
AutistoMephisto@lemmy.world 11 months ago
As one stuck in Cheetoland, I deeply apologize for what he’s doing despite the efforts that had been undertaken to stop him and if he does end up attempting to annex your nation, I want you to know I preemptively surrender and defect to the Canadian Armed Forces.
Ghosthacked@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Shame. The US is a beautiful country and psycho cult rednecks have let deregulation ruin such beautiful wilderness.
Matriks404@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The longer I live the more I see modern civilization collapse inevitable and happening in the relatively near future.
How the fuck do you even prepare for something like that?
Agent641@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 11 months ago
No idea.
GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 11 months ago
U don’t. U just watch it collapse. If u cannot control something, don’t worry too much. That’s my take. Enjoy everyday.
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
it’s the European honey bee that’s dying in unprecedented numbers
but it’s not all bees
European honey bees are the easy button for farmers but they are going to have to decide if pesticide is more important or not
this nobody knows what’s happening is bullshit provided by the likes of the Monsanto and other chemical companies
Flemmy@lemm.ee 11 months ago
Finedust from traffic, mircoplastics, insecticides, GMO infertile weeds… etc. Bayer ass well.
Colloidal@programming.dev 11 months ago
Haven’t you heard? Bayer and Monsanto are one. And Dow and Dupont have fused too. Together, Bayer-Monsanto and Dow-Dupont control over 60% of all grain seed production in the world. All your wheat, corn, rice… it’s all in the hands of these 2 companies.
Redex68@lemmy.world 11 months ago
I’m not too up to date with this story, but haven’t pesticides been used for forever now? Why would the suddenly cause a 80% drop in population?
thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 11 months ago
neonicotinoids were invited in the 1980s and it’s been recently understood that it’s like a forever chemical. it will get into the dirt and go through the plants and pass on through pollen
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 months ago
Different pesticides?
0tan0d@lemmy.world 11 months ago
It’s not the same pesticides year over year. My bet is some MBA pushed a tweaked the formula for short term gains.
null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
I think bee populations are under threat from pesticides, habitat reduction, disease, climate change, nutrition, et cetera.
Of that list, pesticides are probably the easiest to solve.
Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 months ago
They (save for a smarter minority) are 100% gonna decide that pesticides are more important. Until they learn they aren’t, but it will be too late.
Dozzi92@lemmy.world 11 months ago
Say what you will about RFK, but he’s broken clock right on a couple of issues, pesticides being one of them. Sure, maybe his rationale isn’t right, but his end game may be a benefit. Unfortunately it’s at odds with Trump’s complete destruction of regulation, but he (RFK) seems to be chugging along. I think making America healthy is good; I don’t think pesticides or ultra processed foods make kids transgender.
Rob1992@lemmy.world 11 months ago
The company that makes roundup and the GMO plants that can resist it will decide for them
riodoro1@lemmy.world 11 months ago
LETS KEEP PUMPING CAPITALISM UP
NEW IPHONE WITH AI LETS GOOOOO
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 11 months ago
honeybees are an invasive species, fun fact
unfortunately they outcompeted a lot of the native pollinators so we’re fucked without them though
potpotato@lemmy.world 11 months ago
communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz 11 months ago
Bees are not the only native pollinators, though, plenty are extinct
PanArab@lemm.ee 11 months ago
It may not be related but forest fires are raging in many US states and it isn’t even summer yet
RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 11 months ago
I can’t find any research on the impact of increased prevalence of vaping on bee populations. I feel there should be scientific studies done on this. It’s pretty much sweet smelling sticky bee poison that people are now walking about puffing all over every surface.