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US Bill proposed to jail people who download Deepseek

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Submitted ⁨⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago⁩ by ⁨JOMusic@lemmy.ml⁩ to ⁨technology@lemmy.world⁩

https://www.404media.co/senator-hawley-proposes-jail-time-for-people-who-download-deepseek/

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  • labbbb2@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Fascist regime and power/police abuse has started

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    • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Every step unchallenged is an invitation to do more.

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    • TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      to be fair for black people that is an old song

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      • scarabic@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Don’t worry, their already bad situation will get worse too.

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      • FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Most minorities — it’s the middle - upper class straight able bodied white people who are oblivious to it all.

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      • labbbb2@thelemmy.club ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Oh, you’re right

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  • WhatSay@slrpnk.net ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    People like this should not be a government representative. But I guess that’s the trend lately

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  • sudoer777@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Sooner or later we’re gonna have to bypass the Great Firewall of America by VPNing into China

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  • __init__@programming.dev ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Your tax dollars at work!

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  • NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    now i gotta download something i don’t even wan a download.

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    • Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Yup. Downloaded 7b, 32b, and 70b varieties this afternoon. Entirely out of spite.

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      • T156@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Since those smaller models are technically fine-tunes of Meta/Facebook’s LLAMA, using Deepseek’s outputs, I wonder if they would be covered by the bill at all.

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    • ObsidianZed@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I literally just did the same

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  • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Come and get me.

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  • cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    And they wonder why China is eating the US’s lunch on the world stage in terms of influence and technology.

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    • beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’m not sure they realize.

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  • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Are you tired of winning yet?

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  • NarrativeBear@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    You wouldn’t download a LLM

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    • WrenFeathers@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Nope. I certainly wouldn’t.

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  • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Shouldn’t Google and Apple go to jail for distribution?

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Neither Tim Apple nor Ted Google would make it a day in jail.

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      • puppy@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Tim is gay (fr), so I’d say he’d have an (comparatively) easier time than a straight man.

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  • Cantaloupe877@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’d get LM studio or Ollama, and download R1 your system can handle quick.

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  • EveningPancakes@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I’m gonna download it even harder.

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    • Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      See you hell evildoer!

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  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Print the code in a book and mail it.

    Surely, they cannot ban books… right? Right?

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  • treadful@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    More protectionist bullshit that won’t help anyone.

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    • DiagnosedADHD@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Except openai and all their investors

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  • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    I wasn’t thinking of downloading an AI onto my low tire computer until now.

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    • atrielienz@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I’ve got a laptop kicking around from 2010 that’s about to get deepseek just because they’re proposing this dumb ass shit. I don’t even use Gen AI.

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      • Dindonmasker@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Finally affordable housing!

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      • jabathekek@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        same lmao

        They never learn.

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  • theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Hawley’s statement called DeepSeek “a data-harvesting, low-cost AI model that sparked international concern and sent American technology stocks plummeting.”

    data-harvesting ???

    It runs offline… using open-source software that provably does not collect or transmit any data…

    It is low-cost and out-competes American technology, though, true

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    • pixxelkick@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      sent American technology stocks plummeting

      Oh yeah, thats what did it, totally

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    • JasonDJ@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      ![]i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/…/43f.jpg

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  • Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    rip Pat Gelsinger

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  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Cool, see y’all in jail.

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    • unconsciousvoidling@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      I call top bunk

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  • dontbelasagne@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    So I guess it’s free speech as long as you agree with the goverment’s speech. If not, then it’s a crime.

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    • TxzK@lemmy.zip ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      free speech is when racial slurs obviously

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    • timewarp@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Elon Musk was just posting a factory of prisoners all working for cents on the dollar saying that America needs more of that.

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    • ilmagico@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Always have been, and this is a bipartisan value, heck, it’s common to all political parties of the world.

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  • JOMusic@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    It’s only a proposed bill (thankfully), but definitely one to keep an eye on.

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    • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Eh, it’s just virtue signaling nonsense. It’s not going anywhere.

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      • ouRKaoS@lemmy.today ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        That’s what everyone thought about Trump becoming president… Both times.

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      • knighthawk0811@lemmy.ml ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        that’s what they said about <vaguely gestures at everything>

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  • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

    Wow, bold choice to ban the import of technology and knowledge. Usually governments are worried to export technology so it doesn't fall into the wrong hands.

    Btw, how is the Nvidia stock price doing?

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    • Petter1@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      To be fair, this is common practice. Countries do this all the time to protect their economies. Mostly known in the West is China which banned many US services.

      Of course, security of the data of the citizens is also a factor. You don’t want foreign countries use this data to interfere in any way.

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      • hendrik@palaver.p3x.de ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

        Honestly, I don't think this is common practice in non-oppressive countries. I mean sure, this happens in North Korea, Iran, China... But I'm relatively free to consume what I want with a few minor exceptions. For example we don't import food that isn't food-safe by our standards. Regardless if it's common practice to eat it in other places. Also food may not be able to enter the country due to laws on animal cruelty. Similar things apply to electronic devices that aren't up to code. And some select few things are banned altogether and you can't have them and neither can someone import them. Other than that, regulations aren't super strict. I can use all American social media platforms despite them stealing my personal data and violating European privacy laws regularly, can use Russian or Chinese websites... I think I live in a free country.

        And mind that this isn't about the service that collects your data and gives it to the Chinese government. This is about downloading the model file and using it all by yourself. So no data gets transferred to a foreign country. And it's not because people could get harmed or anything. This is just because the vice president doesn't want it personally. Like in some dictatorship. Otherwise they would have banned transferring data into foreign countries, if that's what ut's about. But they didn't do that.

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    • forrgott@lemm.ee ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago

      Right? Like, seriously, we all know somebody is just butthurt because their stock options tanked.

      Oh, wait, I’m sorry! That was very unpatriotic of me, wasn’t it? I mean, we all know that winning an election guarantees being heavily rewarded with insider trading, right? It’s not like they’re there to represent constituents or anything; I mean, doesn’t everyone know we’re a republic, not a democracy?!

      Sigh…

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