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If you dont know, you arent prepared to engage in this convo.

Im not interested in discussing this topic with someone who even has to ask, lol.

I can agree with that.

Blaming AI for this, instead of the shitty people who made the decisions, is still very dumb.

I agree that aforementioned companies/managers/etc are shitty.

Thats not AIs fault lol, and isn’t a reflection of it.

Blaming AI as tge issue is just kneejerk mob mentality.

People truly are just exceptionally out of touch.

These convos constantly have people pulling out the tired old remarks.

1. Quoting 1 shitty study from years ago that is both heavily outdated and doesn’t support their argument the way they think it does, and their renarks indicate they didnt actually read the study

2. “But its theft” which is more of an ethical Grey discussion that Ill leave it up to courts to decide, and so far courts have not ruled AI usage for coding as illegal. Which means I do not give a shit. The entire concept is such obtuse ethical showboating. Only people grasping at straws try and pull this one out.

3. “But what about water usage” bitch we are software devs, data centers using water has been an issue for centuries do not pretend this is magically a new issue. If you have been deploying basically anything in the cloud, especially AWS, then picking AI as special makes you look like an incredibly uninformed idiot. Did you seriously think deploying entire docker containers constantly with integration tested pipelines on every PR wasnt also using water…?

4. “Its output is bad” skill issue. Literally skill issue. As in, “go learn how to use skill files”. In 2026 if your llm is still producing bad output thats 100% user error. Get good.

5. “But what about AIs deleting prod databases” yeah thats an even bigger user error. Why the hell did the LLM have access to be able to do that? Learn to properly use MCP tools and hiw to properly control what commands and operations you grant an LLM access to. Its not even that hard but people are just so lazy.

Every single goddamn thread people crawl out of the woodwork and hammer on repeating these same things. Its all they have.

If you actually wanna have a serious discussion maybe bring up more interesting dilemmas like Clean Room problems…

Never mind the numerous studies stating otherwise

20 bucks says this person is basing their stance off that 1 study from a couple years ago where like a dozen developers with 0 experience with AI were tested using it and didnt show an increase in productivity.

Which is, in fact, precisely also what I was referring to when I said “People are still operating on assumptions of how these tools work like its 2023 and not 2026”

People use that study like its some big gotcha when in reality it just proves the simple fact that people need to be trained in how to use a tool in order for the tool to be useful.

So tell me, what has changed?

Dawg is indeed in the "doesnt know wtf they are talking about, skill issue” bin. Imagine unironically asking this question.

If you have to ask, you arent ready to participate in these convos and are just spreading a bunch of uninformed misinfo.

I dont want to talk to someone about this who hasnt put in the work to be informed.

Go get informed first, then come back in a few months and we can chat once you know the answer to that question.

What a super useful addition to the convo.

Maybe think a little bit harder before hitting the reply button in the future, troll.

The majority of naysayers are touting deeply misinformed falsifities.

Its not a matter of guessing their intent, theyre quite outspoken on why they think its bad.

And the majority of them tout talking points that are years out of date at best.

Some valid points get brought up, but most of the points tend to be in the “these armchair devs have zero goddamn clue about how things actually are, they just are bandwagoning into an angry mob”

including “the output is unacceptable bad”

Anyone with this view instantly goes in the “doesnt know wtf they are talking about, skill issue” bin.

“the tools are built in unethical and morally deficient ways”.

For coding, not really tbh. People are also deeply misinformed on this as well.

People are still operating on assumptions of how these tools work like its 2023 and not 2026.

The luddites haven’t been keeping up with the modern standards and probably couldnt even describe the nuance of when to choose a tool vs a skill for an optimization… let alone can speak as to what tools or skills to be using.

If you dont have opinions on how you’ve found stuff like caveman and headroom to work for you, I just straight up dont consider your opinion to be up to date enough to matter.

A big part of my job now is interacting with companies who have only just started to dip their toes into using these tools and so many developers are getting the sudden realization that keeping their head buried in the sand for the past 3 years has ruined their resume.

The difference between devs that at least tried to stay on top of things vs the luddites is palpable.

And on the total other end of the section you have fake devs cosplaying as real ones vis AI-everything but have 0 clue how to actually code.

Only the senior devs who both know how to code and how to use AI efficiently are aggressively outpacing everyone else.

You may be surprised to learn that the maintainers of linux are not “untrained monkeys”

Theres a forming deeply uninformed / misinformed loud group of people who desperately want to hate on AI being used for anything, even in scenarios where its actually perfectly good at its job.

Even when extremely seasoned professionals with waaaay more experience are stating “its a perfectly fine tool” these folks somehow cannot wrap their head around the possibility someone like fucking Linus Torvalds might know better than them.

Imagine having the utter balls to assert you know better than Torvalds about whether a technology is good or not 😐

Meanwhile those of us actually in the field have known for over a year now that the tools are pretty good now and very useful.