As this project appears to be fairly unknown in the fediverse still, I’d like to use this opportunity to advertise Flohmarkt. This Fediverse equivalent of Facebook Marketplace already has some instances up and running - see here: codeberg.org/flohmarkt/…/flohmarkt-instances
God… remember how fucking simple craigslist was when it hit it’s peak? The fact that Grandpa could take a shaky flip phone picture and post a thing you needed right around the corner, no fat or other frivolous horseshit…
Craigslist is still simple last I checked, but the user base left and now dominated by spam from retail and drop shippers masquerading as local people selling goods from their garage.
Nothing gold can stay
axum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
The name has already made this nonviable for the average person
Kichae@lemmy.ca 2 months ago
We have to stop sending end users to software solutions for web admins. We don’t send them yo “nginx” or “apache”, after all.
Someone throw up a website using this software and give the site a sensible name, and then direct users to that website.
brbposting@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Flohcebook Marktplace
shades@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
You wanna pay for that hosting? No? Okay then.
maniclucky@lemmy.world 2 months ago
It’s not that bad. It’s just German for flea market. And English speakers shouldn’t have an issue with at least “Markt”. Not far from a cognate.
Definitely better names but I think the bigger hurdle is getting the critical mass to get something like marketplace to work in the fediverse even with the perfect name.
FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 months ago
Yep. It’s kind of annoying when people see everything through an “english” lense and assume anything that isn’t made to work for english speakers won’t work…
TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 months ago
But telling a friend about this starts with the name. Simple names are easier. And that would just start with making it short. Single syllable being best.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
what some people don’t get is that “flea market” is also a bad name. floh just makes it look and sound worse and it’s harder to parse let alone understand and therefore remember.
umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 months ago
german looks notoriously complicated for people who dont speak it
Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 2 months ago
Does it? If you set up an instance for your local community/city/whatever, and name it something that makes sense for your intended userbase, I think it would be fine.
It goes from “I sold my couch on FlohMarkt” to “I sold my couch on Local Ottawa Marketplace” for the ‘normies’ out there. They’re not going to care about the underlying software so long as their couch gets sold.
Do recommend a DIY local advertising strategy if trying to get something like this running, though - posters at IRL flea markets, adverts in small community papers for antiques and collectibles, crossposts/links to postings on stuff like MaxSold/Kijiji/Craigslist/GumTree/FB Marketplace/[insert online marketplace operating in your area],that kind of thing.
Focus on the current primary use case of centralized marketplace services (buying shit from your neighbours), then introduce the “Oh yeah, we’ve also set it up so you can see postings on Local Toronto Marketplace, Local Kingston Marketplace, Marché Local de Montréal” etc. from there.
I really, really think talking to people in terms of specific instances over the overarching platform/protocol is a way around ‘normie’ confusion about the Fediverse when first trying it, then getting exposure to how it works in practice will help them understand the nitty gritty stuff better. Is this problematic in some cases, like with Lemmy? A little bit, yeah. For something like FlohMarkt? I think less so.
(‘normie’ in quotes 'cause I’m not the biggest fan of the term, but it’s a useful shorthand)
a14o@feddit.org 2 months ago
This! It’s just the name of the software, not sure why everyone’s getting so worked up about it.
I think it’s a brilliant use case for federation, hope this sees some adoption!
5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 months ago
SPEAK
Speiser0@feddit.org 2 months ago
Germans speak or not as ör out. When you us imitate want, then make it pleasly right!
Shard@lemmy.world 2 months ago
I can’t understand why every other fediverse name is so stupid as to be off putting to the average user.
Womble@lemmy.world 2 months ago
Seems to me pretty much an even spread of how good the names are
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 months ago
Oh look, the Queen of Naming has spoken! Everything should just be named “Facebook something” or “Twitter that”.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
wow what an interesting sarcastic remark about something the op never said.
Suoko@feddit.it 2 months ago
iMarket is better? gStore? 銷 !
anzo@programming.dev 2 months ago
“Facebook” is an equally alienating name if you don’t know English. But I agree, German is difficult!
beeng@discuss.tchncs.de 2 months ago
Uber.
pyre@lemmy.world 2 months ago
it’s not that it’s German (or whatever), it’s that it looks gibberish. it’s incredible how little this is understood.
Uber is an easily read, easily pronounced, widely understood, positive suggesting trochee. it’s a perfect brand name.
flohmarkt 0 for 5.