Welp… There goes physical media…
Sony will cut around 250 jobs from the recordable media business manufacturing hub and will gradually cease production of optical discs, including Blu-ray discs.
Submitted 3 days ago by TheImpressiveX@lemmy.ml to technology@lemmy.world
https://mainichi.jp/english/articles/20240629/p2g/00m/0bu/018000c
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Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 days ago
db2@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Yep, I’m sure it’ll be gone Verbatim.
Dalraz@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Take your upvote
JoeKrogan@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Its an old code but it checks out 😅
deranger@sh.itjust.works 3 days ago
It’s just one company, it’s not all the Blu-ray production stopping. I think the last time I bought any Sony recordable media was CD-Rs for my MP3 CD player in the mid 00s.
Holyhandgrenade@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Sony owns the blu-ray format. I’m worried.
steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
🏴☠️
WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I always preferred the rips fork Blu rays though. They had the highest quality video and audio and stuff. This sucks so much =(
Comment105@lemm.ee 2 days ago
How do SSDs and HDDs compare to optical disks in terms of stability in storage? SSD bits can lose charge over time until a lot of 1s read as 0s, right?
tinkling4938@lemmynsfw.com 2 days ago
SSDs are pretty pricey for video. I use HDDs, mirrored. For some uses I put a SSD caching layer on top to speed up frequent R/W. Using only LVM, no fancy RAID hardware or anything.
frezik@midwest.social 1 day ago
Commercially pressed discs don’t last forever, but longer than burnable discs. IIRC, they used to say 50 years for CDs, but in practice, it was a lot less. More like 20 or 30 if you store and handle them nicely. Easily less than 10 if you don’t.
Hard drives go bad over time; I don’t like trusting spinning platters much over 7 years. They can be OK, but they can suddenly stop working whenever.
SSDs are about the same as spinning platters.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 days ago
I guess hard drives and SSDs don’t count as physical somehow?
Even on a streaming service, the files are stored physically somewhere.
All media is still, technically, physical media.
Even when you stream it locally, it physically lives in your RAM.
ChillPill@lemmy.world 3 days ago
hard drives and SSDs don’t count as physical
When was the last time you walked into any store and bought a feature length film or tv show on hard drive or SSD?
Even on a streaming service, the files are stored physically somewhere.
What is your plan when the licence agreement for your favorite series expires on your chosen streaming service and no other streaming service picks up the show?
All media is still, technically, physical media
No one is arguing this. You’re making the strawman arguement. The not-so-subtle undertone of the article is clear.
Quoting the article:
The planned job cuts come amid a decline in demand for traditional storage formats such as Blu-ray discs, with streaming services now the norm.
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The electronics and entertainment conglomerate will also gradually cease production of optical disc storage media products, including Blu-ray discs, according to the sources.
You will not be allowed to legally own tv shows or films and you should learn to like it. As I can tell from many of the other comments here, not many of us are fans of that idea.
Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 days ago
You are very much missing the point for the sake of a pedantic argument.
Someone else already perfectly illustrated the point in a comment below, so I guess I’m spared the effort.
IHeartBadCode@kbin.run 3 days ago
it physically lives in your RAM for the duration of the stream.
It physically lives encrypted in your RAM and only temporarily. Remember TPM exists.
finley@lemm.ee 3 days ago
the term “physical media” typically refers to portable physical media, such as floppy disks, optical media, and other solutions such as tape.
reddig33@lemmy.world 3 days ago
After spending all that money and effort to kill HDDVD. 😆
ryper@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
Apparently “recordable media” here means the kind you can record on at home, e.g. CD-R, DVD-R.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 days ago
? . . . as opposed to - ?
ryper@lemmy.ca 3 days ago
As opposed to the discs movies are sold on.
frezik@midwest.social 1 day ago
- as opposed to +
WELCOME TO THE RABBIT HOLE
TheGoldenGod@lemmy.world 3 days ago
I’ll be sure to buy extras, since it’s clear this is yet another push towards the consumer market not deserving to own their media.
kaboom36@ani.social 3 days ago
Right as I’m getting into minidisc too
MSids@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Eyyy yes! I just picked up an MZ-N505 a few months ago! It’s been great at work to quickly start music without staring at my phone for 5 minutes first.
Hadriscus@lemm.ee 2 days ago
I was just getting the hang of cassettes !
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
“Press Play on tape.”
(makes lunch)
“File found. Loading…”
(takes a bath, goes for a walk, reads a book…)
Ah the memories…
0x0@programming.dev 2 days ago
I think the data variant stores 1GB… good enough for archiving invoices and the like…
Cerbero@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You can get some pretty cheap used ones. At less than $2 each.
kaboom36@ani.social 2 days ago
Yeah but the thing that helps keep them at $2 is a supply of new ones
Snapz@lemmy.world 1 day ago
So that they can fully control the fate of digital media for “normal” people. Better not lapse on that subscription or fail to upgrade to the latest Sony TV… “Your” media library might not like that, be a shame if you lost access to those pretty titles you love…
VanHalbgott@lemmus.org 3 days ago
Uh oh.
0x0@programming.dev 2 days ago
That one died a few days ago too.
art@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Keep in mind that though this is a blow to the industry, it’s not like optical media is just yet dead. Hell, there are still new releases to DVDs coming out today.
yamanii@lemmy.world 2 days ago
Downgrading from blu-ray to dvd is extremely grim.
ICastFist@programming.dev 1 day ago
I guess current codecs can make miracles with 4GB of disk space
werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Space jam 3! And independent film featuring bugs 🐛 and a 🐇 bunny. The Matrix Housing Crisis… A film featuring Keanu as the one. He doesn’t collect enough retirement money so he’s out there pushing a cart. We saw a preview of him in “the matrix”. That bum in the subway… anyway good movie 😂.
anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
thin laptops and LED Disco Cases killed CD-readers anyways. it’s a shame to loose a cheap way of making media archives, but it is what it is.
RenegadeTwister@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 day ago
Lose*
captainastronaut@seattlelunarsociety.org 3 days ago
Damn. I was just starting to rebuild my physical catalog so I could get away from streaming.
finley@lemm.ee 3 days ago
i can’t even remember the last time i saw an optical disc. it must be several years.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 3 days ago
Found a small part of the problem.
Physical media is dying because the majority of people think just as short sighted as businesses do. Businesses think in short term thoughts like quarters. They do so because investers want immediate return.
But why would you as a person not want physical media??? I literally bought a George Carlin dvd of one of his HBO specials 2 days ago. It was traded into a local resale shop as “used”. It was brand new, because even though the plastic wrap was gone, the adhesive label at the top was still unbroken. Brand new dvd. $3.
knotthatone@lemmy.one 3 days ago
Most people don’t know how to switch between inputs on their TVs or have gotten rid of their DVD or BluRay players at this point.
They’re using the built in streaming apps or they’ve plugged a Roku in where the cable box used to go.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
For me, digital media takes up more space. It’s a good thing and a bad thing. It takes up more space which means I need to have more space, but it’s also cool having the boxes and box art etc. Ultimately, as long as I own my media and it’s physically accessible to me (like located on my hard drive), then I am happy with that ownership and don’t have to worry about it being taken away from me.
finley@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I don’t want physical media because it’s a liability. It can get lost or destroyed very very easily, especially optical media.
Digital copies are portable, I can date to hold them, and, worst case, I can just re-download it.
GasMeterCrasher@lemmy.zip 3 days ago
You have to know where to look assuming you have working optics.
lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 days ago
They’re a very common form of personal backup. A few discs and an USB writer and you get a very long lasting medium for passwords, personal files, family photos etc.
Can also archive multimedia of course, the smallest discs are 25 GB and can pack a few films, a season of a series, or a lot of music.
finley@lemm.ee 3 days ago
i guess, but they’re not great for backup. Eps. R/RW optical media doesn’t last that long (5-10 years) and is easily damaged. You’d be better off with tape for long-term storage. or an M-Disk or some similar magnetic backup solution.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Wow I’m having a hard time believing that Sony of all people would abandon a technology
0x0@programming.dev 2 days ago
MiniDisks too? Nooo!
Matriks404@lemmy.world 2 days ago
[deleted]ChillPill@lemmy.world 2 days ago
You will own nothing and you will be happy.
NutWrench@lemmy.world 1 day ago
I’m perfectly fine with storing media on flash drives. Optical disks just adds an unnecessary step between me and enjoying my movies.
hardaysknight@lemmy.world 1 day ago
Flash loses bits of data without power
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 days ago
the whole point is to stop you from owning physical media so they can arbitrarily raise prices by creating artificial cause and demand through artificial scarcity.
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 2 days ago
anyone remember when the argument for digital goods was " We wont have to waste money on boxes, printing, media, storage, or shipping! So your goods will be cheaper than ever, and everyone will still get a more profitable cut!"
Pepperidge farm Remembers, because Pepperidge farm called bullshit on the argument back at the very start, and said they would get rid of physical media, not lower prices, and that we would lose ownership of our purchases… and the internet poopoo’d me to hell in back calling me paranoid and stupid for it.
and look where we are.
and its so goddamn fucked up I don’t even get a single molecule of serotonin from being right about it.
FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 day ago
The internet is chock full of idiots who piss all over Cassandra
Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I dunno. Steam did it well enough. I was buying cheap games for years. I could get a kick ass GOTY game for like $5 while GameStop was still selling it used on consoles for $20.
ipkpjersi@lemmy.ml 2 days ago
That makes this even more depressing.
Murdoc@sh.itjust.works 2 days ago
But where to store it all now?
lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 days ago
Damn, that’s some Qanon-level shit.
SlothMama@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I mean, except it’s not a conspiracy. The death of physical media is an actual tragedy because digital media is nowhere near as free.
It’s to the point where much of the media I love is actually not available legally and officially for physical ownership, in some cases becoming actual lost media physically, and not available for purchase or even download anymore.
Companies absolutely want to control the consumption of media in more restrictive ways that they can control, it’s not a conspiracy, it’s the actual truth.
DRM, always online, digital only, subscription services - they are all designed to remove you further and further from being an owner.
Everything from video games, music, movies…all entertainment media is moving in this direction and it’s an actual tragedy.
GeekFTW@lemmy.zip 2 days ago
Jokes on Sony, they stopped getting my money years ago.