I feel like the artists at the beginning wanted to make this primarily medieval themed. But then realisied “Oh yeah, new and stuff is a a thing.” and then just added laptops and antenna’s
Divide and rule
Submitted 8 months ago by cyu@sh.itjust.works to [deleted]
https://sh.itjust.works/pictrs/image/271ee86e-a8dc-4fe6-8524-f74275bfa179.webp
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FatTony@lemm.ee 7 months ago
1995ToyotaCorolla@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s been added on to. The original didn’t have the radio towers or “time out” area
howrar@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
Someone shared a different version that doesn’t have those newer stuff. That might’ve been the original.
Rubanski@lemm.ee 7 months ago
The font is slightly different as well
howrar@lemmy.ca 7 months ago
True. It’s very obvious when you look at the “E”.
Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Are there disinformation campaigns from the EU targeting the russian population?
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 months ago
No but englightened centralism means facts don’t matter.
Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I see this as more anti-nationalism than any kind of centrism.
SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 7 months ago
I bet there are, just a matter of scale and effectiveness.
There’s an organization that sneaks usb drives to North Korea. Full of news, shows, articles etc all hand picked by former NK citizens that defected
Clent@lemmy.world 7 months ago
But is it disinformation?
Spreading information is not the same as spreading lies.
Blackmist@feddit.uk 7 months ago
If there isn’t, they need to step up their shit.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Not European, but there’s Voice of America: Russian, which was originally headed by Richard Carlson from 1986 to 1991. You might not recognize Dick, but his son Tucker is also a fixture in the media business.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 7 months ago
“Hmm here’s a situation where this message doesn’t apply, therefore the message is useless to all situations” - literally all of you
Rakudjo@lemmy.world 7 months ago
goldenbough@lemmy.world 8 months ago
PURPLE GOOD YELLOW BAD 😤😤
ItsAFake@lemmus.org 8 months ago
Typical sense of entitlement from a purple, they’re all the same, that primitive purple brain can’t comprehend other light waves exist.
Simon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
More moronic both sides shit?
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 months ago
This Is Whataboutism
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Except that,
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Our objective news - is really just a mess of different slants, some being propaganda, that are not censured even when their content approaches slander due to heavy political bias.
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Our combating disinformation - is largely unexisting to the point that several large social media providers have abolished or acted against the control they had for doing so and that their CEOs shamelessly meet with presidential candidates with ties to them.
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Our glorious leader - is hardly accepted as a glorious leader and the portion of the society that does also tend to have absolutely no qualms about becoming more authoritarian by their own admission.
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Our great religion - is criticized within the country and an increasing number of people are becoming atheists.
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Our noble populace - Our heroic adventures - Ok, who is writing this meme? Who thinks their society thinks this way? Half the other populace disagrees with the other half, even going so far as to be described as hate, and any mythos of heroic is easily dismissed the moment it becomes convenient to do so not to mention the amount of criticism armed forces get.
This is whataboutism 101. Not all sides are completely black and white, but not all sides are equally grey.
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
I don’t think this comic was about you or your country. It’s about how nationalists frame things in their own vs. other countries.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Except that at least nationalists can be criticized in mine, creating such a mess in a first place. In theirs, if not explicit social censorship, there’s clear persecution of the barest opposition.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world 7 months ago
The whole point is that the two nations are the same, but some of the population doesn’t see it that way. Of course our news is filled with propaganda, that’s what this meme is saying. Of course our troops are carrying out the whims of a despot. But blind nationalism paints these as the right and true path.
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Funny thing, at least we get to criticize it. They don’t.
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 7 months ago
nice job writing an essay on completely missing the point
TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 7 months ago
Nice job joining the block list
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brown567@sh.itjust.works 8 months ago
I think about this whenever I see legislative efforts to “prevent disinformation” XD
I hate disinformation as much as the next guy, but we gotta be careful who we give charte blanche to censor information XD
aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It’s worth pointing out that the two opposing countries / nations / city states in this cartoon would have to have similar governments with similar selection processes for their representatives.
It is pure lunacy to say things like “Obummer was a dictator!” when he was selected twice by people voting, and then peaceably left the office after his two terms.
Now can you say the same thing about, for instance, Putin?
considine@lemmy.ml 7 months ago
It’s important to follow the laws of the land, otherwise there is damage to the system. Legal framework, electoral framework, political framework. So when answering your question about Putin, the electoral rules and legalities of Russia’s system must be examined. Were they violated?
That is also a question on the US national agenda for Trump. It is important to consider his case in context of the system. And to compare his real estate dealings to others who deal in real estate. What was the severity and nature of the alleged crime? Are these kinds of behaviors common in the American political class?
x4740N@lemmy.world 8 months ago
What I get from this image is that one side will call the other side evil while the other side will do the same
It’s best to look at the actions of a person or group rather than what they state they are doing
TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee 7 months ago
well apparently people around here lose their shit if you recognize that judgments aren’t objective facts. so fucking annoying
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Maybe we are tired of Putin bootlickers
collapse_already@lemmy.ml 8 months ago
There is a reason the Geneva Convention (and the Hague protocols before it) prohibit assassination. That reason is that the Glorious Leader and the Wicked Despot have more in common with each other than they do with us peons. Don’t anyone get too excited during our “war” (population reduction, economic stimulus package, domestic troubles distraction). Invest in defense contractors, the elite will keep them fed.
Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.
blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Remember the average dude in China, Iran, Russia, etc is no more interested in dying to aggrandize his rich owners than you are.
True, and you also have to remember that many of them have it ingrained in their culture to hate enough to kill gays, other religious people, races, etc.
Despite how much people love to say one culture isn’t better than any other… There absolutely are if you’re looking through a lens of equality. Particularly if you’ve grown up in a more westernized nation where non-perfect progress has been made on those points.
Let’s just hope the west doesn’t continue turning into Yallqaeda and all the lost Christian Fascists suddenly earn a Herman Cain award.
Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 8 months ago
Nation-states were a bad idea
GBU_28@lemm.ee 8 months ago
Alternatives?
I see 2:
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full hegemonic domination of one nation state where everyone gets their basics met. Star trek style.
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intense tribalism where you’re doing a whole lot more defending your land than you are now
PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 7 months ago
anarchism, i.e. bottom-up democracy and federal structures. Read up on Rojava for example.
bigFab@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I’d go for the second, with pleasure. Better spend my time fighting for hometown than working for a big profit-driven company.
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00x0xx@lemmy.world 7 months ago
They make sense, as they were good enough to stop imperial empires from ravaging the world. But their limits are a governing forces are seen today.
I do think the age of nation-states are ending soon, and the rise of a new type of state may happen soon. Maybe something like a culture-state?
afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 months ago
It is divide and conquer vs. unite and rule. You don’t rule over people about to go at each other.
Whatever this things reeks of both sideism. Which is another way to feel superior without learning.
bfaliszek@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Make Purple Great Again!
dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 months ago
America is equally as bad as Russia! /s
PatFussy@lemm.ee 8 months ago
I mean I would rather be caught dead than be purple
Astrealix@lemmy.world 8 months ago
I read “brutish” as “british” on first glance
Siegfried@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I can’t find any differences
dave@feddit.uk 7 months ago
If you ever need to check, this site has up to date information. arethebritsatitagain.org
femboy_bird@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 months ago
Are the brits a tit again
00x0xx@lemmy.world 7 months ago
Considering the behavior of British tourist globally today, or even the history of their empire, the two words may as well have the same meaning.
ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 7 months ago
I can only apologise for my fellow countrymen. They’re pricks, especially a group of lads or the typical Gammon family unit, and it’s why I try to holiday in places with as few of them as possible.