You can remove or disable Windows 11 and 10's AI 'bloat' with new BloatynosyAI

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• TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s good that these tools exist, but it’s so frustrating that it’s a constant cat and mouse game of Microsoft trying to make their products as cumbersome and shit as possible and the community trying to salvage Windows to the best of their ability.

  At what point do OEMs just say actually nah, I’m tired of you making our laptops frustrating to use?

  At what point do they say fuck it I’m going the Valve route and moving away from a company that wants to undermine me?

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  • joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    uhh they will include copilot key in keyboard in new laptops...

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    • sigmaklimgrindset@sopuli.xyz ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Very useful, just like my dedicated Cortana key. 🤡

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  • iAmTheTot@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The people who use tools like this are in the minority. The majority (probably the vast majority) of people use Windows as it is out of the box.

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    • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The number for people I have seen with search box still enabled in taskbar tells me that’s true.

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I know.

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  • TheBat@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    it’s a constant cat and mouse game

    It’s not just Microsoft. Never heard of always on DRM? Or government making it difficult for people to receive assistance (disability or homeless)?

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  • TravisKelce@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At what point do OEMs just say actually nah, I’m tired of you making our laptops frustrating to use?

    LTT put out an (surprisingly insightful) video about ChromeOS and how it’s kind of secretly spreading Linux. I don’t think its crazy to say that in 5-10 years ChromeOS or similar will be the default and Windows will be a premium add on or something.

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    • umbrella@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “premium”

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    • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I doubt it. Google will squander it away one way or another. It could work on a technical level, I’ve been using flex since before Google bought it for family members, it’s just poorly advertised and explained.

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  • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At what point do OEMs just say actually nah, I’m tired of you making our laptops frustrating to use?

    You’re under the impression that most people care about the horrible parts of windows?

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    • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They do.

      Enough to do much about it, other than buy a MacBook if they have money to burn? Nah.

      But enough to use their PC less and try to do as much as possible on their phone/iPad? Honestly, yeah, I think so.

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  • littlebluespark@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be fair, Window$ has been bloat since the very day M$ stole it from its Unix roots, and Linux is everything that the OS could’ve been were it not run by money-grubbin’ cringelords.

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    • TrickDacy@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Unix roots? Lol wtf

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• SamsonSeinfelder@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  For me it is so weird, that you have to use extra tools to disable telemetry and unwanted features in windows systems. Why is windows not giving me a central option to decide on those things? Is it maybe because they do not want me to decide for myself and therefore splitting the places where I need to disable all that unwanted stuff as opaque as possible? Can they be more obvious that they do not value your opinion on how you want your OS to behave?

  Quit Windows. It is a dead end and get worst with every release.

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  • cyborganism@lemmy.ca ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It’s a shame. I really love Windows 10. It’s fast and the UI’s ergonomy is near perfect.

    On my work laptop we recently had to switch to Windows 11 and it’s a fucking pain to use. You have to jump through so many hoops and do extra clicks to do what you want. And the start menu has become completely useless. And I hate the gaps and rounded corners everywhere. And that’s just on the surface. Performance is piss poor and you have all that crap spying on you to collect your usage data.

    The day Windows 10 becomes unsupported is the day I go 100% Linux.

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    • deweydecibel@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Forced to use it at work, too, and only by the grace of being in the IT department do I have the ability to make it less shitty.

      There’s registry entries to restore the full context menu, and PowerToys Run has effectively become my defacto start menu, though obviously you need to use the keyboard so it’s not a perfect UI replacement. Meanwhile for searching, I’ve got Everything running and set global keyboard shortcuts to it. It makes 11 more tolerable.

      Unfortunately I’ve yet to find a way to get some damn 90° angles back. I can not wait for a few years down the line when we finally swing away from this Apple-chasing “bubbles with an inch between them on a white/black field” design aesthetic. I’m tired of everything looking like a toy.

      And not just a toy, the same toy. It’s seriously Corporate Memphis levels of lifeless, forced design with not character, creativity, or ingenuity.

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    • ballskicker@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This has been exactly my stance ans well apart from ever having used Win11. Never did and never plan to, downloaded Mint a few months ago to start getting familiar with it. Turns out I’m not real great at technical stuff but I’m getting there. Dual monitors was kind of a booger and now I’m trying to figure out how to install some games since Bottles is being a real wiener about Battle.Net. I’m glad there’s so many resources and forums out there but I still hope some version of Linux gets dumbed down a little more before Win10 sunsets to make the transition easier for us blue collar folk

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    • Vlyn@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Windows 10 already had telemetry (what you call spying) and what it didn’t have in the past got patched in. So when it comes to that both Windows 10 and 11 are the same.

      Performance is totally fine for me on Windows 11, but the new right click context menu sucks.

      Overall there’s really not much difference between the two otherwise.

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    • BumbleBeeButt@lemmy.zip ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’ve been using Manjaro on an old modded chromebook. Windows is not gonna be on my next machine build.

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    • dditty@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think you can use a third-party tool to remove rounded corners

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  • IchNichtenLichten@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    want your OS

    That’s the problem, it’s not your OS.

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  • SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    If you tolerate this, then your children will be next.

    Trust me, I’m not installing Windows as the Operating System for my Children.

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  • muntedcrocodile@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I switched to linux yeats ago but i now need to build myself a windows 11 base image thats as lightweight as possible for my vms and im dreading that immeansly. I just want onw toll that can kill literally everything thats unessasary. I mean unless proton and wine has gotten good enough to run autocad programs.

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    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Use Windows LTSC, it doesn’t have this stuff. Then permanently license it with the MAS tool on github (let me go find a link)

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  • tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Quit for what? Linux is a mess with hardware like fingerprint readers being unsupported, and without the most used commercial software. Mac OS is a buggy mess lately, and it ties your data to a time bomb hardware and that damn walled garden.

    Windows is the best general use OS out there, and Microsoft knows it. We need regulation to stop that abuse.

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  • Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Been this way since windows XP. There’s always been good folk who go out and provide tools to remove bloat.

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• RDAM_Whiskers@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I removed it by installing Linux

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  • DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There it is!

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    • JayDee@lemmy.ml ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Like clockwork! Almost as reliable as the OS /s

      Linux has no ads so word-of-mouth is the only way it gets adopted.

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    • Goldmage263@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Honestly, I would switch to Linux if it didn’t take so much time to learn. I’ve messed around on a Raspberry π 4th gen board, but have no real experience. To really make the Linux jump, I’d need a tutor or something.

      Also I don’t know which of my games will be compatible.

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  • tenextrathrills@lemmynsfw.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I removed your useless post by blocking you

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    • Railcar8095@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a nix based distro called SnowFlake that I am not sure why but think might be interesting for you.

      Might be your whining. Will never know, I guess

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    • n3m37h@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks now we all know what idiot to block 🤣

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• boolean@kbin.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  install random third party software that may be sniffing or leaking information to remove shady features from windows that sniff and leak information.

  windows sucks.

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  • killeronthecorner@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The app is open source so you can review the not-leaking-your-information that it does yourself.

    Windows on the other hand …

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    • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I wonder how many apps this actually happens for, my guess is “way less than people think”

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  • purplemonkeymad@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    My reason for not using them is that they tend to be overly aggressive in what they remove. I only need a few reg tweaks and denying permissions on a few files. These often go whole hog and remove whole components, almost all apps etc. I actually use one drive, I don’t want its files also removed.

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• NaoPb@eviltoast.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Can you imagine installing Windows and having to install 10 seperate programs just to fix all the issues with it?

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  • GlitchZero@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Every day with Windows is like this. It’s a fucking nightmare. I don’t know what else to do.

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    • lukstru@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Install linux :)

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    • DreitonLullaby@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Truly Truly, I say unto you, install Linux; it’s what you really must do.

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  • trslim@pawb.social ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Truly the Bethesda of operating systems.

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• blackstampede@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I used to have a power shell script that a coworker gave me that would uninstall a huge number of services and apps on windows, change a bunch of config settings etc.

  I’ve always wished there were a way to roll out a stripped windows release as an open source project without getting sued.

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  • lickmygiggle@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    ameliorated.io

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    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      That’s pretty cool I just used Enterprise Edition and ran Powershell to uninstall shit. Also Chris Titus Tech’s tool is quite nice as well.

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    • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Thanks! This is a great project

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    • Haha@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      This is awesome!!

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  • thorbot@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    There is. It’s called slipstreaming and IT people have been doing it for decades

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    • TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s a pretty funny disconnect on Lemmy of hardcore Linux users that have very very obviously never supported enterprise environments and have no understanding of how important windows is

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    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Configuration Management is the term I’m familiar with, third party tools or SCCM, or just group policy.

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  • gearheart@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Was it the christitus thing? Wonder if this ai debloat would complete that.

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• CriticalMiss@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Although im part of the Linux crowd, if you’re tired of reapplying debloat scripts every update, you could get the W10 IoT LTSC edition that only has security patches with no updates. You will have to pirate it though.

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  • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    A non pirate solution is Windows Server Essentials 2022. It’s like $300, has zero bloat and updates don’t ever hijack your settings.

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    • long_chicken_boat@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      does Windows Server Essentials comes with a desktop GUI? Can you install Steam and things like that like you’d normally do in Windows?

      I’m happy with Linux, but my brother who is a gamer has Windows but he’s annoyed AF by updates and the AI nonsense. This seems like a perfect solution.

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  • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I do both and happy with debloated Windows 11 Enterprise with automatic updates restricted to security only. Pirating now is running a powershell command that fetches activation scripts from github.

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  • NaoPb@eviltoast.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This might be interesting. I’m looking to have a few installs to test some of my programs in an actual Windows environment without having to daily drive Windows and without having to deal with all the unnecessary changes MS wants to make.

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    • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tiny 10/11

      archive.org/details/tiny-11-NTDEV

      Activation script

      github.com/…/Microsoft-Activation-Scripts

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• Blackmist@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’ve no idea what MS are even doing with all this shit.

  I’m like 95% sure I had an AI icon in the search bar yesterday, and today it’s a briefcase. 🤷

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  • lunachocken@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I guess for some reason it decided to pack up

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  • KrokanteBamischijf@feddit.nl ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I have no idea why they’re even remotely interested in Windows as a product anymore. Surely they can’t expect that much revenue from integrated AI services when most of the general public’s needs can be covered by web services that will severely outmatch Microsoft’s development speed (y’know because of juggling legacy code and all).

    Considering the fact that they gain most of their revenue by far from their Azure cloud services and enterprise customers, it just seems like a stupid business decision to invest this much into all kinds of random features for their desktop OS aimed at consumers.

    In proper systems architectecture theory, we generally try to avoid mixing up functionality this much because a modular design allows your system to evolve without too much pain. Why build all this crap into Windows when you can just opt-in by installing an application for it?

    I really don’t get it…

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    • PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They make a lot off of business licencing. They still push the consumer and education side in order to create familiarity.

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• n3m37h@sh.itjust.works ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  They keep inching me towards Linux with all this bullshit

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  • ___@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just make the jump. I keep a cheap n100 box as a backup.

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• joewilliams007@kbin.melroy.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  go to linux alreadiii

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  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Sigh.

    Sure.

    Now how do you: CAD, exchange, Publisher, Access, Excel (no, open versions of excel still don’t come close, they can’t even do tables), Onenote/SharePoint, etc, etc.

    And Linux is as messed up in its own way. Power management is off by default, so it kills your laptop battery (at least on every version I’ve tested). Notifications that you can’t silence without looking up a command line.

    No, the learning curve is still too steep to recommend to people who I will have to support.

    And while the Open/Libre office apps are “compatible”, people don’t have time to waste dealing with the ways they whack a document. Libre couldn’t even properly display the spreadsheet I use to setup a new machine, with 3 sheets and a few hundred lines, because tables.

    “Switch to Linux” is a simplistic answer that doesn’t address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM’s and docker.

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    • SeedyOne@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They hated him for he spoke the truth…

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    • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      “Switch to Linux” is a simplistic answer that doesn’t address the needs of users. And I use Linux every day, as a serverOS, running VM’s and docker.

      “Let me debate you about why you shouldn’t use Windows” as if I want to use Windows, people who have no experience with the software in my industry dropping alternatives. Even had someone debate me after saying I’m a sysadmin in a mixed environment, and how I alone should just move the whole company and all our software vendors to Linux.

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    • onion@feddit.de ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      What learning curve? Whether my mom clicks on the Firefox icon in Ubuntu or Windows makes zero difference

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  • randomaside@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What’s slowing down Linux adoption?

    Is it the monopoly Microsoft has on all PC hardware and strong relationships it has with desktop software partners that make leaving windows near impossible?

    No, it must be the users.

    /s insert principal Skinner meme

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  • Coreidan@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    These types of comments are annoying and super unhelpful.

    Nice job /s

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• dan1101@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I’m tired of playing the debloat game, especially with the frequency of Windows updates that undo and add things.

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  • banneryear1868@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Should restrict updates to security only

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• Rooter@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  As someone who uses windows to produce music, bloat is a huge issue, latencymon Isa great tool to check for programs and drivers that can cause audio dropouts.

  And win 11 has been great, didn’t have to change much to get it to work. I tried several forms of Linux and it was too slow, driver issues, and plugins that were impossible to get working.

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• sirico@feddit.uk ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Problem I’ev had with all these “fixes” the issues come back or the OS craps the bed

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• RandomVideos@programming.dev ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Another way of removing windows ai bloat is by using balenaetcher and an usb stick

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• werefreeatlast@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I literally have a windows 10 installed that I haven’t logged in since before AI came up. WTF! I can only imagine the massive update when I try to login next time.

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• sleepmode@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  The option to install Opera should be removed.

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• michael_palmer@lemmy.sdf.org ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use AtlasOS to debloat and optimize (disabling animations, annoying requests and so on) Windows 10/11

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• prosp3kt@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  To this point just use Linux already. You will be doing a lot of telemetry cleaning and even might be breaking things.

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• progettarsi@feddit.it ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  WE DON’T FUCKING CARE U’RE USING LINUX

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• littlebluespark@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Thanks, but these kids are born every second or more. 🤷🏼‍♂️

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• nutsack@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  use linux lmao

  did i type this right? are you going to upvote my comment

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• PriorityMotif@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  atlasos.net

  revi.cc

  Tiny 11

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• lud@lemm.ee ⁨9⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  What changed in windows 10? Mine looks the same as before.

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• StopSpazzing@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It’s called WinPilot now.

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