Lemmy has taught me that Firefox is the way

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• tkk13909@sopuli.xyz ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  TikTok is Chinese spyware. Chrome is American spyware. Anyone in their right mind should stop using both.

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  • li10@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    sometimes it’s nice to know that someone’s watching over me tho

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    • Hiro8811@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Is your king getting watched over the shoulder by a big oily fat guy that sweats and breaths through the mouth? Ah and it tries to convince you the buy useless shit

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    • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      and I have no privacy (oh ohoh)

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  • Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Meanwhile, my employer forces me to use Chrome or Edge. Ugh.

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    • TigrisMorte@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Tell them you can't as your active X scripts only run under IE6.

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    • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      If it’s for work I don’t have a problem, it’s the company that’s giving their data to the spyware, just don’t give it too much personal information

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• pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I hear this all the time. I have this conversation on the regular.

  Them: “Oh you think Tik Tok is spyware?”

  Me: “yes”

  Them: “I’ll have you know so is Google, Apple, Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, Microsoft, and all the big American companies too”

  Me: “Yeah, that’s why I don’t use them”

  Them: gasp “you’re just paranoid bro are you a drug dealer or something?”

  Me: “no, I just like my privacy. You probably wouldn’t like it if some guy was following you keeping tabs about everything you do either.”

  Them: “well I’ve got nothing to hide”

  Me: “maybe the next person in power might see your current and past beliefs illegal”;

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  • No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The fact that you have nothing to hide doesn’t imply I’ve to open up anything to anyone without my approval.

    And that’s the key here, we are not fully aware of the randomized distribution of your own data for profit.

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  • Tikiporch@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Just ask them if they have curtains or blinds on their windows at home. They have nothing to hide, right?

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    • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Ask if their house has walls because if it does so should their country.

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  • TassieTosser@aussie.zone ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Me: “do you close the bathroom door while shitting?”

    Them: “yes”

    Me: “why? You have nothing to hide”

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    • pineapplelover@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You lock your doors when wanking?

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  • asexualchangeling@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Me: You’ve got nothing to hide? What’s you’re address I need to get a pair of binoculars

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• DumbAceDragon@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Foreign spyware is stealing jobs from hardworking American spyware.

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  • No_Ones_Slick_Like_Gaston@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This should be a campaign line for 2024

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• Conyak@lemmy.tf ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s America spyware. I have standards. /s

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  • uis@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Doing at least n amount of spying each day

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• doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Anyone who even compares a for profit corportation to the world’s largest hostile militaristic dictatorship is an idiot. Both bad, but on completely different scales.

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  • squash_squash@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    US looks very militaristic to me. It has a very broken democracy, and a history of supporting/causing brutal dictatorship.

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    • seejur@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The control the Chinese gov has over tilt ok is on a different scale compared to Google and the US

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The USA hasn’t taken territory since 1946.

      The major reason for the USA being so broken is due to deregulation and corporate greed. Which is a little different in nuance to Authoritarian China.

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  • PurplebeanZ@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Thank you, this is my viewpoint exactly. We are exploited by both but one is after money, the other is a threat.

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    • andy_wijaya_med@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      How can China threatens you? If you live outside of China?

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  • Duamerthrax@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    The things the CCP could do with political blackmail gathered from tiktok would make even Zuck blush.

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    • xx3rawr@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      At the very least, Google and Facebook have to step back if caught. Meanwhile, Chinese companies often don’t care about EU privacy laws. Still avoid them altogether, any way.

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    • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As much as China is a festering cancer upon the world, I am willing to bet that for every single trademark horror that is taking place in their society, I could find a match or worse in the USA.

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I bet from reading message history they have tons of SSNs and bank details.

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  • theFibonacciEffect@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    To be honest I think you can compare them, I feel the word idiot is misplaced here.

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  • paboppa@jlai.lu ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I doythink those are as different as you say. Through the Patriot Act, american corporate spying is US spying.

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Okay but one wants to efficiently sell me worthless trash and the other would happily kill me and take my property given an opportunity, so…

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  • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Now look you here- one party is a convicted serial rapist, the other party is elitist.

    They’re both criminals.

    So it doesn’t matter.

    Which is why you should vote for convicted serial rapist party.

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  • calavera@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    This post is about China, but why are you talking about the US?

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    • Chakravanti@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You can’t read let alone understand. Dunno what to explain to you when all you have is accusations of failure when they clearly show your own such.

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    • Mamertine@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      They’re both spyware.

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    While they’re at completely different scales, plus will got to much different lengths to abuse what they find out, It comqes down to personal peril. I know exactly how Google will use that surveillance data to my detriment and that they’ll openly sell it to more nefarious entities, however I fail to see how the Chinese government would ever have an interest in my data or in selling it.

    I don’t use Tik Tok or Huawei, but that’s for other reasons

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You fail to see why they would collect the massive amounts of data that they’ve been repeatedly proven to collect? Sounds like willful ignorance, to me.

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• dopeshark@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  “But at least is LOCAL spyware 😎”

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  • BobGnarley@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Which honestly to me seems worse right I mean its potentially going to someone who is much closer to you geographically (not always of course).

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    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.today ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Google using your perceived preferences to sell you underwear and yogurt is not worse than being tracked by the world’s largest hostile militaristic dictatorship.

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  • nexussapphire@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Me using an android phone and an iPad.

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• Maggoty@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  God when the whole Tiktok thing in Congress was going on nobody wanted to hear that their favorite big tech social media app was already selling information to China; had been caught doing so multiple times; and had never stopped despite promises and threats of prosecution the next time.

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  • TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    WHAT information? What does China gain by learning that Sparky Douchebag watches BBQ and catgirl fapping videos? Are they planning their invasion based on the Heathers Challenge, or simply stealing our makeup tips?

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    • Johanno@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Search the company Tencent.

      Then look at how many shares they have on companies around the world.

      And then think about it. What power does Google have? What power probably Tencent has.

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    • Railing5132@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Look into the research that has proven that the app has backdoors baked in, and combine that with how widespread it is - reaching every level of society; every industry, politician, branch and level of the military. Now remember that research into the Spyware activities of the app.

      TikTok is the largest, most successful self-inflicted virus for SigInt ever. [citation needed]

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    • WindyRebel@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

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• not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Android phones looking nervously around.

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  • einfach_orangensaft@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    At least u can put custom firmware on android phones, try to get rid of Apple spyware is much harder.

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    • smileyhead@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      You cannot put custom firmware. If spyware is hidden in drivers, bootloader or even firmware of the modem there is nothing we can do about it. Custom ROMs are just replacing things above the kernel and below apps.

      Still of course things average non CIA person should worry about like Google apps with high privileges are removed with custom ROMs.

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  • pHr34kY@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    *Laughs in GrapheneOS*

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    • not_that_guy05@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      As a person that has been rooting his phone since 2011/12, I wanna go back to those years. Graphene and lineage have not satisfied my itch and having to keep magisking every few weeks sucks. I miss my galaxy, nexus rooting days.

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• gencha@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Media platforms are beyond spying. You have nothing to offer.

  It’s all about controlling information and feeding you what you need to see.

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  • Hikermick@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    What you want to see

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    • gencha@lemm.ee ⁨6⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I honestly doubt that you have full control over that

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• Suavevillain@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Anyone using Firefox is a W to me.

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  • anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I can’t ever go back after moving to Vivaldi, even though it’s chromium. It’s the tiniest of reasons too, like full screen behavior, the gargantuan UI elements, the continuous removal of customization options…

    I can set Vivaldi to:

    F1 = show/hide info bar F2 = show/hide address bar F3 = show/hide tab bar F4 = instant fullscreen F5 = sidebar that’s actually useful

    The bookmark and history tabs are actually usable, the Quick Command popup bar functions like Vimium, and there’s more customization options than you can shake a stick at.

    I say this as a Firefox user who has not changed browsers since it was literally called “Mozilla” and competed with “Mosaic” and “Netscape Navigator”.

    I love FF to pieces, but it’s simply not usable to me under the current management.

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    • Suavevillain@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I just tried out Floorp which is basically Firefox with some Vivaldi features. I was like oh okay I get the appeal now. I have to take Vivaldi for a test drive.

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  • randomdeadguy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Waterfox, too

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  • Siegfried@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    W?

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    • LostWon@lemmy.ca ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      W = win L = loss

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    • flathead@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      She’ll promise you more than the garden of Eden

      Then she’ll carelessly cut you and laugh while you’re bleedin’

      But she’ll bring out the best - and the worst - you can be

      Blame it all on yourself 'cause she’s always a woman to me

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• sebinspace@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Jokes on you I don’t use either ^i ^use ^discord ^and ^windows ^instead

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  • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I still use discord, can’t just leave gaming with my friends and I already look too much like a paranoid to convince them to switch to matrix or another FLOSS service

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    • sebinspace@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      There’s Revolt and TeamSpeak aswell. The latter is proprietary, but the audio quality is something to behold.

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• Cano@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My brother in Christ I use Firefox

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  • programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Remember to use also a

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    • TengoDosVacas@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I use DDG but it sucks because I am a dude on the move and DDG does not allow voice to text

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    • Holzkohlen@feddit.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I like startpage. It ain’t perfect, but it’s better than using Google and co.

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• gnate@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Chinease is an enzyme, but I don’t know what it does.

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  • LostXOR@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    It breaks down china.

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    • kirby@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      The enzyme seems to only work every few centuries

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• Agent641@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I only use true blue American spyware

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• uis@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  But what if I have another religion?

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  • camr_on@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Praying to Lauren Faust??

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    • uis@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      Fausticorn, Bonniecorn and Twilight Sparkle

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• anarchy79@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You’re not getting it. TikTok is crude, targeting anything that comes in its way, like a shotgun.

  Google is like a sniper rifle, that is also a shotgun.

  Now, which would you prefer, the shotgun, or the sniper rifle that is also a shotgun.

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  • markon@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Nukes because then I get vaporized instantly. 😎

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  • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    Can I get a grenade launcher and laser sight for the Frankenstein-gun?

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• tostiman@sh.itjust.works ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Whataboutism

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• randomdeadguy@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  tok bad

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• BilboBargains@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  It comes from chy-nah

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• RmDebArc_5@lemmy.ml ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  My opinion on TikTok: always put the first cross in the middle

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• kittenzrulz123@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  I use LibreWolf (and don’t use Tik Tok)

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• ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Remember, when American corporations harvest your private data, that is a good thing.

  When foreign countries, that’s bad.

  This post was brought to you by your friendly Google. Where we will your data to any one and every one because we love money.

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• EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  Librewolf, MullvadBrowser and Tor Browser are the way.

  firefox is full of bullshit now.

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• Shardikprime@lemmy.world ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  That’s why Google Ultron exists m8

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