Submitted 9 months ago by MacNCheezus@lemmy.today to [deleted]
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Hell yeah, get rid of ALL the people while we’re at it!
Uncle ben is a brontosaurus Aunt Jemima is now a giraffe Little debbie is little ducky Quaker oats has a giant sentient, “THE Quaker oat” Sunmaid is the literal sun in a french maid outfit And of course land o lakes should be the lochness monster or some similar native american cryptid.
I would be okay with this.
I love the land-o-lakes mothsquitoman!
Can you do a second one with Land O’Lakes but use the prompt ‘Duluth dogman’
Since Land O’Lakes is a Minnesota company it should be a Minnesota crypted. Minnesota shares mini cryptids with many other locations mothman, Bigfoot, etc.
But if you want to really place it, brand and cryptid… Then Duluth Dogman is perhaps your best option that I am aware of.
Only people that are racist have no idea why the figures on the left are racist and not those on the right.
Only people that have no ability to think for themselves have a need to put others into categories of acceptability based on what the dominant culture around them thinks instead of judging them based on their individual merits.
No, they were right and you just proved it.
You need to fuckin go back to school with your “think for yourself” crap if you think anything on the left is justified.
And no, nothing on the right is racist, they’re not caricatures of enslaved people.
What if someone’s judgement of your individual merits just happens to agree with the dominant culture around them? Or is that not possible? Does the ability to think for ones self necessarily lead to disagreement with whatever is commomly believed? I think that would just be dumbass contrarianism.
You’re genuinely saying that those on the right aren’t racist?
Depictions associated with slavery and servile minorities are different than a little girl in a sun hat. Who would have guessed?
Man, if you looked at a bottle of Aunt Jemima syrup and thought that was racist, you’ve got some issues.
I too enjoy the white privilege of being able to look at something and judge it without thinking about context. It’s fantastic to be able to simplify things to just face value and not think about the racial history behind it. It’s one of my favorite privileges.
Unfortunately, I somehow never got that middle-aged white man’s confidence of instantly knowing what other people should be feeling, better than they do. I must be defective. But it means I tend to defer to the people that are hurt by something to judge if they’ve been hurt or not.
It’s literally based on a stereotype of black people being food preppers for rich white folks but sure buddy.
Wasn’t the butter one just… A human shaped bottle? Looking at the logo from the beginning until the end it doesn’t look like it’s ever been a thing other than simply a depiction of a black woman. Not even a caricature of such, just like a painting of a person who could totally be real.
Ironically, the butter one was actually designed by Patrick DesJarlait, an Ojibwe man, specifically meant to accurately reflect his culture. Here’s an article written by his son about the whole thing:
The Sun-Maid girl is depicted performing a job that’s traditionally associated with slavery. Is depicting white people performing slave labor also problematic or is slavery only bad when it involves people of color?
Also, the job she’s doing is predominantly done by immigrants nowadays. Is depicting her as white not disenfranchising these people by denying them representation?
Fuckin chud thinking removing racist depictions is somehow bad.
If you flip around the capitalized letters in your username, it spells VikingHet, which is clearly a white supremacist and anti-LGBT dog whistle.
You seem more upset than him tbh
What is you being asexual have to do with you being called a white supremacist?
When you figure it out let me know, because I’m still wondering why someone would assume my ethnic background.
I don’t remember the call to get rid of uncle Ben though. It feels like at best the company was trying to get out ahead of it, at worst they wanted to stop paying his family residuals and had an excuse.
Apparently the character was based on a black maître d’, so it wasn’t even particularly racist, since many white people also do this job. Therefore I’m inclined to believe the second reason might have been their actual motive, and the supposed racism was just a convenient excuse.
No. That was simply the man who originally posed for the picture. The brand was officially named after a sharecropper. However Uncle was also a common title for an older male house slave. Same with Aunt. Both the original rice farmer and pancake mix inventor were born into slavery and had their products lifted from them by white corporations.
Uncle Ben is literally a generic name given to house slaves. There were many Uncle Bens all across the south.
Remind me why we have tipping in the US?
I’ll be honest, this comment section is confusing. Every comment I read makes me feel bad about myself and I’m not sure which comment is agreeing with which.
I still think it’s bad to put slaves on your products but why am I supposed to feel bad about the white people?
It’s bad faith concern. They’re accusing those brands of erasing minorities under the aegis of anti racism. When the original intent of those mascots was appropriation and playing on the black house slave theme.
So they literally cannot do anything that’s not racist.
Keep: racist appropriation Remove: racist minority erasure
I’m just gonna say… I don’t really think this was the kind of media representation were looking for. Or needed. Or found helpful in any way.
From that article:
“The character of Aunt Jemima is an invitation to white people to indulge in a fantasy of enslaved people — and by extension, all of Black America — as submissive, self-effacing, loyal, pacified and pacifying,” Twitty wrote in a recent NBC Think essay. “It positions Black people as boxed in, prepackaged and ready to satisfy; it’s the problem of all consumption, only laced with racial overtones.”
This piece is interesting but even the relatives understand the imagery to be racist.
Depictions associated with slavery and servile minorities are different than a little girl in a sun hat. Who would have guessed?
I notice that a lot of people make sense of life using a series of rules. “if X then that means Y!” I think they’re bad at sussing out what’s right by reading the room, and they also can’t make sense of a complex world. They just default to thinking of the world as if we’re in a video game. It’s like they lack empathy or the ability to read humans or something.
Whom exactly is this directed at?
Probably written by ChatGPT.
And yet the Santitas chips girl is still going strong like a boss.
Depictions associated with slavery and servile minorities are different than a little girl in a sun hat. Who would have guessed?
Better not get rid of my sunmaid waifu.
Uh-oh, sexualizing an attractive woman because she’s doing subservient field work, are we?
That’s highly problematic. BRB, gonna start a special interest group to get her removed because it’s sexist.
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This feels like one of those right wing memes that could go either way, but let’s break it down like this Uncle Ben and Aunt Jamima are both domestic servants, do you think that’s an appropriate mascot for a company? Do you think black folks want them as some of their oldest icons?
Land of lakes also has a stereotypically dressed native woman who probably wouldn’t dress like that at all even back in the day.
I get that most people couldn’t give a shit either way but when you use your brain to think about how messed up presumably white owned companies are for using slaves and genocided people as their logos or mascots is pretty fucked.
AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
Mia, the Land o Lakes butter maiden, is actually rather interesting, at least the modern version they got rid of. The artist was a member of the Red Lake Chippewa and the design included traditional Ojibwe floral motifs. Yeah, it needed to go, but it wasn’t the worst by a long shot.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 months ago
I just love the idea of a native american being iconfied for… butter.
like, wow, that’s so very, very native and authentic - butter.
I get it, it’s the land-o-lakes, minnesota, and they take butter fucking serious folks, they make it, they eat it, they sculpt it, so yeah, they’re REALLY into butter… but why the stolen iconography? why associate the native americans, who didn’t domesticate cows, with butter of all things?
like what the actual fuck was the line of thought?
Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Yeah it’s hard to have a good faith debate about a post that wasn’t made in good faith. Anyone who’s being intellectually honest wouldn’t try to equate these company mascots.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Username checks out I guess.
You can’t just assume the post wasn’t made in good faith in order to prove intellectual dishonesty, that’s begging the question.
Learn yourself some debating skills.
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org 9 months ago
Uncle Ben is supposedly based upon a southern maitre d. Aunt Jemima though, undoubtedly problematic.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 9 months ago
TIL
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben's_Original
Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 months ago
Uncle Ben helps one grow the most excellent Golden Teachers.
Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Only the picture. There was an actual Uncle Ben who was a rice farmer. And an actual Aunt Jemima making pancake mix. Both were born into slavery, both had white corporations exploit them. Uncle and Aunt are also both titles used in the Antebellum South for older house slaves trusted by the family.
MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 9 months ago
Well, the Sun-Maid girl is clearly working a job that’s mostly done by immigrants from the south these days, so using a white woman instead of a brown one denies them representation. But using a brown woman would also be racist because it would perpetuate harmful stereotypes… hm, what to do?
Little Debbie is clearly a child. Do you want children to be exploited for marketing purposes?
At least a Quakers are historically against war and slavery, so I guess he can stay.
Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 9 months ago
As a European (we had slavery, made more wars than you can imagine and have probably the worst history you can’t even imagine) nice try locking people up in “black” vs “white”.
DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.world 9 months ago
Quakers are also who gave us the “puritanical work ethic” that plagues our society as we try to adapt to a more convenient era of work.
Either way you’re just being a pendantic smart ass about this, so you’re definitely just some shithead right wing troll looking for rage bait.
Remmock@kbin.social 9 months ago
Always thought the Sun-Maid mascot was Hispanic, but so am I.
lewdian69@lemmy.world 9 months ago
You are in a shitposting community friend.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
I’m not making a statement about the post, but “it’s just shit posting” is a reeeeaaal good way to turn this place into a nazi bar. Not calling OP a nazi, just saying that this argument right here is chum in the water for them
Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 months ago
This isn’t a shit post though. It’s alt right propaganda.